# Ammo + TUTH= Opposite effect? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 15, 2008, 2:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-tuth-opposite-effect/21402 "2008-10-15T02:08:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![trifecta](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/trifecta/32/1009_2.png) [@trifecta](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/trifecta)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 2:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-tuth-opposite-effect/21402/1 "2008-10-15T02:08:35Z")
This is my frist time trying out pheros and I went out with my gf for a few hours. 2 sprays ammo. 1 on throat/top of chest. 1 on wrists. 1 spray of TUTH. Throat/top of chest. So I go pick her up, we go to the park for a walk, eat some in my car, visit a cemetry, teach her how to drive in the cemetery ( she was almost on her way to have us buried in the cemetry with her driving lol, luckily i braked on time) and later I driver her back home. Whole thing lasted like 3 hours Now the strange thing is, we didn’t even make out. I didn’t intiate because I had decided I would see how much she wants to make out, but she seemedlike she didn’t wanna make out. Other than a kiss here or there, there was no other action. LOL, this is very strange because she loves making out!!! What Did I do wrong? I also have instant shine togo if u wanna suggest future mixes. We are going out agian thursday for a much longer period. ---
**Author:** ![wilks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f475e1/32.png) [@wilks](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wilks)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 3:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-tuth-opposite-effect/21402/2 "2008-10-15T03:54:02Z")
it’s possible she was thrown by the change in your phero signature. Has she smelled either fragrance before? It’s possible she was just trying to get a handle on the fact that you seemed “different.” ---
**Author:** ![tfrankz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tfrankz/32/468_2.png) [@tfrankz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfrankz)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 4:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-tuth-opposite-effect/21402/3 "2008-10-15T04:43:49Z")
Hi I am new to the OD on the none aspect and that might also be something to look into. You are 20 years old and still produce a good bit on you own. ---
**Author:** ![vic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vic/32/1113_2.png) [@vic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vic)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 5:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-tuth-opposite-effect/21402/4 "2008-10-15T05:20:43Z")
start off with 1 ammo, then 1 tuth so you know exactly what to expect. Too much -none will only scare people away, even people you know. Build it up slowly each time til you know what an overdose is to YOU. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2008, 12:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-tuth-opposite-effect/21402/5 "2008-10-15T12:27:45Z")
That was a LOT of 'none for someone your age. You were putting out a very sexually heavy signal - probably heavy enough to be a little scary. May also help explain some of her driving. I would back off to 1 to maybe 2 sprays of [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) with a couple sprays of Shine. ---
**Author:** ![getup82](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/47e85d/32.png) [@getup82](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/getup82)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 4:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-tuth-opposite-effect/21402/6 "2008-10-16T04:01:21Z")
maybe it was the fact that u were in a cemetary. but seriously im having trouble figuring out the right dosage for TUTH but still trying! ---
**Author:** ![Wolfy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wolfy/32/965_2.png) [@Wolfy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wolfy)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2008, 4:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-tuth-opposite-effect/21402/7 "2008-10-16T04:39:56Z")
TUTH experimentation is interesting, it is a very fickle friend. sometimes 3-4 sprays is right, sometimes 1 spray is to much, I have found on a few occasions when experimenting that unscrewing the spray top and dragging the tube up the back of my ears putting on less than a spray gives more and better reactions than a spray to the back of my neck. As for combining I would not suggest using both Ammo and TUTH at the same time, (same for combining A314 and TUTH) as the -none in them can be counter productive and quickly lead for an OD. I have had good luck with IH, IO and a couple drops of TUTH on the back of my ears. a woman was telling me dirty jokes, and flirting with me until she realized what she was doing, and turned bright red. mumbling something about her husband, and stopping cold. ---
**Author:** ![vic](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vic/32/1113_2.png) [@vic](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/vic)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2008, 3:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-tuth-opposite-effect/21402/8 "2008-10-17T03:14:41Z")
thats interesting, I’ve had better hits with ammo on my clothes from a week ago than a fresh spray.