Heya people, im currently a phero virgin, iv been looking at ammo and Instant Shine, trying to decide which one to buy, my question is though not which one to buy, but more, what are the main similarities and differences betwen the two.
As far as i can see, they can both be used in day and night settings, they both have a subtle sexual vibe without being to much for day/work time, and both make you and others around you feel good, ammo has a pro designed scent and IS gives you like a shiny aurar…
Ammo and IS are like clothing and underwear respectively. You can get away without your underwear as outer clothing is the main deal. Ammo provides a complete social and sexual enhancement. IS merely adds a little edge to the already subtle effects of most pheromones. However, like yo’ panties, you may not feel complete without it. Personally I can live without ma drawers or IS, but not Ammo. I’d stick to the main course and add the frills later.
LOL, Gegogi that’s quite an original take. By themselves you should get more reactions from ammo, there’s a reason shine is considered a sort of “spice” or additive. Makes any other product better but doesn’t do as much on it’s own compared to other products.
I may be the only one, but I think of shine as Instant coffee. I’m not a morning person and I’m trying to be healthier, so I try to lay off coffee and pepsi, but I need the caffine jolt. Shine is my morning replacement, I spray some on and I’m awake and in a good mood (caffine may have awakened me, but it sure never put me in a good morning mood.)
Thanks for the quick answers guys, too bad I ordered IS not ammo =/. Well, I’ll get some ammo next time I order instead =P
Then I’ll also have time to se if +2k people are all suffering from a bad case of placebo or if pheromones do actually work =D
If I had to choose personally I would get both 2-3 IS and 1-2 AMMO is a simple and quite effective mix in my experience. They are big staples in my book but as a standalone AMMO is by far the best premixed standalone. Glad to hear you got some pheros none the less. 
gegogi— I’ll want the drawers for sure… otherwise something would probably get caught in the zipper.
like ben stiller in ‘something about mary’.
LOL, love that movie. I bought IS alone, it seems to be a bit more of a social type cologne as well.
well, i bought IS but they… “accidently” 
dropped a togo bottle of ammo in the package as well ^^ im going out clubbin tomorrow to test out ammo.
Walk in like you own the place! 
Keep us posted bro!
yeh man keep me posted too cos i think ammo on its own may give me better effects than ammo and shine but id be interested to hear what you think
Heya people, iv just come home from the town, so here’s a quick field report, im slightly drunk, iv only had 2 pints but i drunk quite easily, so i apologize for any typos.
I was wearing, 3 sprays of IShine and 2 sprays of ammo (can’t remember where) and i’d just had a bath before i left, to se the effect of pheromones on theire own.
well, ill start with saying that the only hit i got, was from a male finnish techsupporter that suddently started talking to me while i was in the mens room taking a leak, and since im not into guys, it wasnt really that satisfying ^^
but on the other hand, i dont think it was the pheromones not working.
first of all, it was freezing outside (that is… i generelly dont feel the cold, unless the winds blowing) so from other peoples who were wrapped up in large jackets’s perspective it was freezing, from me running around in a short sleeve’d shirt, it was allright…
most of the time we spent going from one club to another looking for places where there were enough girls, for us to maybe get lucky, without the hassle of other guys. most places we found were sadly pure wiener partys.
my friends didnt act differently either. and in the end we just decided to split up and go home.
in all i think i managed to stop 2 groups girls (with 2 girls in each) on the street with very short conversations (the girls were in both cases freezing and wandered of pretty quickly).
and didnt manage to strike up conversations in clubs. which isnt uncommen for me. (im quite shy)
im going to test them at the my gym, either tomorrow, or the day after.
and im looking very much forward to getting hold of instant openess, and come talk to me =P
heh, not to many errors
I’m quite suprized that you were able to get the 2 groups of girls to notice; pheromones aren’t supposed to be easy to detect in the cold. But still, good luck on your next test run 
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.. they didnt notice, i just tried my best to strike up a conversation, but they kinda fled within the first minute or two 
oh, ok, just kidding! Good luck still.
Well it’s progress for sure bro, the key is you were able to run some pheros for a night, no one expects one hit or one night wonders so keep up the consistency and hang in there. Props for trying to strike up a convo and trying to open.
Phew, I just got back from the gym, I’m totally knackered…
I was wearing 3X IS and 2X Ammo.
I started out with talking a trainer at the reception desk, they have just installed a new system where you need to log in with a code and a card, and I didn’t have a clue what to do ^^.
She was very friendly, but I wasn’t sure as to wether it was the pheros or just becouse it’s her job to be nice. I did notice though that she was a bit more giggly then she needed to be =).
After that I got changed, and started to work out.
I quickly noticed that girls just completly ignored me, while guys seem to stand near me, kindof priximity alert distance and stances.
The girl I had talked to at the counter did though seem to look in my generel direction from time to time, and also walked infront of me while smiling at me a few times. Still, that could have been coincidence 
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After I got out of the gym and stood at the subway station I stamped my ticket I turned around and almost bumped into a girl standing behind me, I got eye contact with her and she quickly looked down at the ground and blushed a bit.
In retrospect, I’m thinking that it’s possible I may have been wearing to much for my own good. But it still puzzles me why it seemed to have more effect on guys then on girls…
Atleast I’v decided not to wear that dose any more ^^
I’m wondering if there may have been a androstenone OD caused in part by both your own application of Ammunition, what you may have been producing naturally, and the additional androstenone in the air at a gym.
Overall it did seem to have what I would think of as a relatively expected effect on the females and males. Interest from one, and territorial “aggression/posturing” from the other.
My thoughts.
well, it sure is possible. i’ll need to find somewhere better to test them out, like a 4 hour train trip later this month ^^ or 5 days in the middle of a bunch of mostly young people =P and then a 4 hour train trip back again ^^