# Ammo vs PheroProof: What is the difference? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 17, 2007, 6:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-vs-pheroproof-what-is-the-difference/3172 "2007-04-17T06:14:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Futurist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@Futurist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Futurist)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2007, 12:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-vs-pheroproof-what-is-the-difference/3172/21 "2007-04-23T00:09:41Z")
> [@](#): > > Here’s another idea, based on today’s experiences with PheroProof. > > I did look at your dosage recommendations on the ad page. I started off with 2 sprays to my chest, let it dry down a bit, and then put on a shirt. After huffing in my shirt a bit to get a feel for what I was wearing I decided to go for a couple more sprays on my hair. By this time the cologne aroma was getting pretty strong. I’m a little older than most users so I thought I could use a little more none, but no more cologne. I put on one spray of the none to my chest. > > When I went out to the mall and shopping I found I was either well into [OD](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharmacodynamics) teritory, or else I was easily identifiable as “the cologne wearing guy.” A couple of girls were pleasant and talkative, but more were avoiding me. > > Actually, it was pretty funny and I had a good time observing the reactions. I don’t hold it against the product because I’ve been in [OD](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharmacodynamics) land before. Next time I will use a more reasonable application. > > Anyway, the idea. > > Start users off with just PheroProof, and include a written explanation about finding the sweet spot, and what an [OD](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pharmacodynamics) is. You should start them off at a low dose, and have them gradually work up. You should be able to provide them this at a bit lower price point than you currently have for the combo. > > Then offer an advanced users kit targeting users who have been hooked by the basic product. In this one include the tweaking extras as you do now. However, offer the PheroProof in an unscented version and also provide a bottle of cover cologne/enhancer. This will enable your advanced user to both tweak the none and Androstenol ratios, and also uncouple the cologne dose from the pheromone dose. This kit could be sold at a higher price point, and the people getting it would understand what they were getting and appreciate it. Your ad copy for the advanced kit could include an explanation. Or - you could include an add for the advanced kit in the package with your basic product, perhaps in a sealed envelope that says “Don’t open until you’ve tried PheroProof for a week.” > > - Just ideas for consideration - > > Take care Haha, yea you definitely overdid it. That’s almost 30mcgs of none, and you might have had on more if you had used in the past few days. I understand there have been a couple reports of success with a lot of sprays of Pheromone Proof, but for the most part, 1-3 sprays is all you need. I also wouldn’t touch the bonus products until you have thoroughly tested out pheromone proof on its own, as in 15-20 times. Experiment with half sprays, ie 1.5, 2, 2.5, 3 sprays. Also, I’d recommend not applying under clothing until you figure out what works best without the variable of clothing impeding the ability of the product to create a pheromone cloud around you. I’d recommend application to the the jawline, neck at first, and find a dosage that works for you. Then if you enjoy wearing under clothing, work to perfect that application type afterward. As for you other comments, thanks for the detailed response. ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2007, 1:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-vs-pheroproof-what-is-the-difference/3172/22 "2007-04-23T01:30:56Z")
> [@Futurist](#): > > There is 500 mcgs of none and Androstenol in each freebie. > [@Futurist](#): > > Gonewithwind, it’s 5mcgs per spray, 200 sprays per bottle. 200 sprays x 5 mcgs per spray = 1000 mcgs The figures don’t seem to add up. Or do I need to buy a new calculator? ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2007, 1:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-vs-pheroproof-what-is-the-difference/3172/23 "2007-04-23T01:45:55Z")
> [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#): > > 200 sprays x 5 mcgs per spray = 1000 mcgs > > The figures don’t seem to add up. > > Or do I need to buy a new calculator? [Kid’s discovery forces calculator recall in Virginia](http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4155/is_20050608/ai_n14673603) ---
**Author:** ![Futurist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ecae2f/32.png) [@Futurist](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Futurist)\ **Post date:** [April 23, 2007, 1:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-vs-pheroproof-what-is-the-difference/3172/24 "2007-04-23T01:55:51Z")
> [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](#): > > 200 sprays x 5 mcgs per spray = 1000 mcgs > > The figures don’t seem to add up. > > Or do I need to buy a new calculator? Oh crap, you are right! I’m sorry, it’s 2.5 mcgs per spray. The 500 mcgs total is correct. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-vs-pheroproof-what-is-the-difference/3172.md?page=1)