# Ammo vs Turn Up the Heat: with the same none, when would you choose TUTH? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [February 10, 2008, 6:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-vs-turn-up-the-heat-with-the-same-none-when-would-you-choose-tuth/9036 "2008-02-10T06:39:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![BigMattDogg](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bigmattdogg/32/1629_2.png) [@BigMattDogg](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BigMattDogg)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2008, 6:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-vs-turn-up-the-heat-with-the-same-none-when-would-you-choose-tuth/9036/1 "2008-02-10T06:39:15Z")
So I’m pretty new to this forum and I know this topic has probably been discussed already. I’ve been recommended by a few of the more veteran pheromone users that as a general rule of thumb they prefer Ammo over [Turn Up the Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/). I was also told that they both contain the same amount of 'none. In that case, what are the scenarios, if any, that you would use Turn Up the Heat over Ammo. Thanks in advance everybody! ---
**Author:** ![tweach1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/779978/32.png) [@tweach1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tweach1)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2008, 6:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-vs-turn-up-the-heat-with-the-same-none-when-would-you-choose-tuth/9036/2 "2008-02-10T06:46:40Z")
It really depends! I would use TUTH for clubbing/parties/other partylike social events. I would use ammo anyday, anywhere, anytime, (but TUTH would probably be better in the above situations) except around asians, I have noticed asians don’t like it, on me atleast. ---
**Author:** ![Kusro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f05b48/32.png) [@Kusro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kusro)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2008, 6:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-vs-turn-up-the-heat-with-the-same-none-when-would-you-choose-tuth/9036/3 "2008-02-10T06:48:22Z")
Bigmattdogg, Turn Up The Heat is pure -none, while the [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is well buffered with some social pheros to soften it a bit. Its very easy to OD with TUTH while Ammo is much easier to use. A young guy like you still produce a lot of -none so you have to be careful when adding any -none product for fear of OD. Some people have reported aggressiveness from males they came across when wearing too much -none. TUTH sends a very strong sexual vibe, which may freak out the lady that you are targeting, when in the first date or when you just want to get to know that person. I hope that answers your question, but more experienced people may be able to explain it better. Cheers! Kusro 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![BigMattDogg](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bigmattdogg/32/1629_2.png) [@BigMattDogg](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/BigMattDogg)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2008, 7:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-vs-turn-up-the-heat-with-the-same-none-when-would-you-choose-tuth/9036/4 "2008-02-10T07:06:22Z")
That makes alot of sense Kusro, and I appreciate the explanation. I have two follow up questions that come to mind. 1. Does that mean that Turn Up The Heat has more raw sexual power than Ammo, so to speak? 2. Couldn’t I buffer Turn Up The Heat myself by mixing it with Instant Shine or [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/)? ---
**Author:** ![sheba](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sheba/32/1664_2.png) [@sheba](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sheba)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2008, 7:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-vs-turn-up-the-heat-with-the-same-none-when-would-you-choose-tuth/9036/5 "2008-02-10T07:36:28Z")
> [@BigMattDogg](#): > > That makes alot of sense Kusro, and I appreciate the explanation. I have two follow up questions that come to mind. 1. Does that mean that Turn Up The Heat has more raw sexual power than Ammo, so to speak? 2. Couldn’t I buffer Turn Up The Heat myself by mixing it with Instant Shine or Instant Female Magic? Ammo is androstenone, androsterone and androstenol. So you could buffer it with those and added ishine. That would be nice. Instant female magic is more for relaxing a lady but, for me, it only causes me to get sleepy. Keep that in mind, because I’d hate to see you put a hot date to sleep before things get interesting. 😃 This doesn’t happen to all ladies, of course, but I do know I am not the only one. Careful also, as the Androstadienone in [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) can cause a depression affect in men. You’re mature enough that might be able to get away with straight Turn up the Heat; but I think you’d be surprised to find that you’d actually get better results with Ammo. There’s a reason that it’s preferred. I guess Turn up the heat is nice, though, when your already in a make-out session with a lady and you’re pretty certain things are gonna go your way. If you were to slip away and add a shot of turn up the heat to your chest and then come back.. well, that could make her experience very nice. Thing is, if you were to add it too early, you could really drive her away. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2008, 10:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-vs-turn-up-the-heat-with-the-same-none-when-would-you-choose-tuth/9036/6 "2008-02-10T10:18:23Z")
Besides the holy trinity of “A,” Ammo also sports TAA, the main active mone in [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). So it’s even more buffered and balanced than you thought. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2008, 10:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-vs-turn-up-the-heat-with-the-same-none-when-would-you-choose-tuth/9036/7 "2008-02-10T10:32:08Z")
Gegogi It really dosnt have TAA in it anymore. I checked and double checked. Only 1.5 does and they dont sell that any more. SteveO said its better if people use it in conjuntion with TAA when needed then to add it in. The men liked it best without it and the women liked it with it. So they only sell 1.0 now. I think the one that they will release to stores will have alot less Androstenone and that amount will probably be replaced by TAA. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Jevarah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/91b2a8/32.png) [@Jevarah](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jevarah)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2011, 3:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-vs-turn-up-the-heat-with-the-same-none-when-would-you-choose-tuth/9036/8 "2011-04-04T03:26:37Z")
Thank u all who posted replays and answers to that ammo vs tuth qeustion. All what i want is some sexual attraction butnot as the one provided by tuth. I am about to order ammo right now. Sorry for my bad spelling.