# Ammo vs TUTH: what's the difference and when should each be used? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 6, 2008, 3:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-vs-tuth-whats-the-difference-and-when-should-each-be-used/10839 "2008-04-06T15:18:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![cr8zy0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e99b99/32.png) [@cr8zy0](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cr8zy0)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2008, 3:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-vs-tuth-whats-the-difference-and-when-should-each-be-used/10839/1 "2008-04-06T15:18:54Z")
What’s the difference between the 2 of them? When should they be used? ---
**Author:** ![E\_J](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/2bfe46/32.png) [@E\_J](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/E_J)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2008, 3:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-vs-tuth-whats-the-difference-and-when-should-each-be-used/10839/2 "2008-04-06T15:35:04Z")
Welcome to the forum bro. Remember the search button is your friend you will find rally useful info and learn a lot from other threads.😃 Here is a thread that might answer you question: [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-vs-turn-up-the-heat/9036](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-vs-turn-up-the-heat/9036) Here are some other search results that will be useful: `http://www.pheromonetalk.com/search.php?searchid=161322` Good luck and have fun ---
**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [April 6, 2008, 4:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-vs-tuth-whats-the-difference-and-when-should-each-be-used/10839/3 "2008-04-06T16:48:57Z")
The links by EJ are have some good info in them 🙂 Basically, turn up the heat and ammo both have 2.5 mcg of none, but ammo have 5.0 mcg of 2 other [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) to balance the androstenone, so you don’t od too easily ---
**Author:** ![Jasx69](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasx69/32/2413_2.png) [@Jasx69](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasx69)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2008, 7:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-vs-tuth-whats-the-difference-and-when-should-each-be-used/10839/4 "2008-04-08T07:06:58Z")
> [@E\_J](#): > > Welcome to the forum bro. Remember the search button is your friend you will find rally useful info and learn a lot from other threads.😃 > > Here is a thread that might answer you question: > > [Ammo vs Turn Up the Heat: with the same none, when would you choose TUTH?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-vs-turn-up-the-heat/9036) > > Here are some other search results that will be useful: > > `http://www.pheromonetalk.com/search.php?searchid=161322` > > Good luck and have fun Great links and read yeah this was my 1st dillema when deciding what to get. Im glad Im not the only one finding it diificult to choose which to get, I’ll probally get both some time along the track considering they do smell different. ---
**Author:** ![E\_J](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/2bfe46/32.png) [@E\_J](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/E_J)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2008, 2:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-vs-tuth-whats-the-difference-and-when-should-each-be-used/10839/5 "2008-04-08T14:58:56Z")
I got both but I was thinking and please experts chime in. Since Ammo and TUTH have the same content of -none it is better to get Ammo and instead of TUTH get some [Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/), that will make the none diffuse slower and for a longer time. If you need an in your face effect like TUTH just combine the Raw Power and the AMMO. There are some other -none products (that out of respect to Androtics I won’t name since with a basic search you can find them out) that could also probably be useful Any opinions on this would be greatly appreciated ---
**Author:** ![tho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@tho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tho)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2008, 3:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-vs-tuth-whats-the-difference-and-when-should-each-be-used/10839/6 "2008-04-08T15:11:46Z")
> [@cr8zy0](#): > > What’s the difference between the 2 of them? When should they be used? Here is my take on it: [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) 1. Gets me sex all the time (I have had sex with ammo with 6 different girls) 2. Girls love you 3. Nice scent 4. Respect Turn Up The Heat (I have had sex with Turn Up The Heat with 2 different girls) 5. Intimidating 6. Less balanced than ammo 7. Very hardcore sexy (too much for many young girls) 8. Avoidance from other males 9. Jealousy 10. Never wear at work or with family 11. Great white shark effect or Uber sex magnet effect with fertile women 12. Big advantages but big disadvantages 13. OD is very easy Ammo is better. ---
**Author:** ![Jasx69](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasx69/32/2413_2.png) [@Jasx69](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasx69)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2008, 4:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-vs-tuth-whats-the-difference-and-when-should-each-be-used/10839/7 "2008-04-08T16:28:15Z")
> [@E\_J](#): > > I got both but I was thinking and please experts chime in. > > Since Ammo and Turn Up The Heat have the same content of -none it is better to get Ammo and instead of TUTH get some Raw Power, that will make the none diffuse slower and for a longer time. If you need an in your face effect like TUTH just combine the Raw Power and the AMMO. There are some other -none products (that out of respect to Androtics I won’t name since with a basic search you can find them out) that could also probably be useful > > Any opinions on this would be greatly appreciated Do we still use [Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/), who uses it these days not many mixes with this in it that I’ve seen lately. It has the highest content of -none but I remember due to its disspertion rate people are wary of using it. Or could it be another reason If it has more -none then Turn Up The Heat why isnt everyone going for it plus the fact that it’s oil based should be a bonus, anyone shed any light why it’s been dead weighted? ---
**Author:** ![tho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@tho](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tho)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2008, 4:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-vs-tuth-whats-the-difference-and-when-should-each-be-used/10839/8 "2008-04-08T16:32:25Z")
> [@Jasx69](#): > > Do we still use Raw Power, who uses it these days not many mixes with this in it that I’ve seen lately. > > It has the highest content of -none but I remember due to its disspertion rate people are wary of using it. Or could it be another reason If it has more -none then Turn Up The Heat why isnt everyone going for it plus the fact that it’s oil based should be a bonus, anyone shed any light why it’s been dead weighted? The best answer i can give you is: “When i wear it, it SCARES THE SHIT OUT OF FEMALES!!!”. ---
**Author:** ![E\_J](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/2bfe46/32.png) [@E\_J](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/E_J)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2008, 5:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-vs-tuth-whats-the-difference-and-when-should-each-be-used/10839/9 "2008-04-08T17:02:03Z")
> [@](#): > > The best answer i can give you is: “When i wear it, it SCARES THE SHIT OUT OF FEMALES!!!”. Ok maybe you are either using way to much or it should be buffered with other pheros. Any other experts wanna chip in? Thanks ---
**Author:** ![Jasx69](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasx69/32/2413_2.png) [@Jasx69](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasx69)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2008, 5:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-vs-tuth-whats-the-difference-and-when-should-each-be-used/10839/10 "2008-04-08T17:03:38Z")
> [@](#): > > The best answer i can give you is: “When i wear it, it SCARES THE SHIT OUT OF FEMALES!!!”. Yeah I would’nt be surprised with that amount of -none OD they would probally scream and run away. ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2008, 5:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-vs-tuth-whats-the-difference-and-when-should-each-be-used/10839/11 "2008-04-08T17:56:19Z")
Raw power is more expensive and is just -none with no other [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/). TUTH is -none plus 8 other pheromones to enhance the central effect of -none. Raw power is better for people whose bodies get hot very easily or those who stay in warmer places. Alcohol based -none products on them is **too intense**. Oil based products like RP gives a controlled diffusion and lasts longer. Alcohol based products like TUTH are better for immediate effect. I would have given RP a try if I didn’t already have a more than half full bottle of PI (a similar product from another company). ---
**Author:** ![E\_J](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/2bfe46/32.png) [@E\_J](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/E_J)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 12:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-vs-tuth-whats-the-difference-and-when-should-each-be-used/10839/12 "2008-04-09T00:22:24Z")
> [@](#): > > [Turn Up The Heat](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) is -none plus 8 other pheromones to enhance the central effect of -none. I apologize for my previous post did not know TUTH had more pheros I thought that was Ammo, then what is the real difference? the content of the other 8 pheros? Thanks ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 12:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-vs-tuth-whats-the-difference-and-when-should-each-be-used/10839/13 "2008-04-09T00:34:19Z")
Turn Up The Heat actually has 8 other pheromones besides androstenone? Are you sure? Androtics is rather secretive but there is no mention of 9 total pheromones on their website description. At 2.5mcg a zap 8 more pheromones would have to be amazingly low traces amount to keep from diluting the androstenone. Ammo 1.0 is believed to have 2.5mcg of -none plus 5mcg of alpha Androstenol and -Androsterone per spray. Ammo 1.5 was thought to also contain TAA. Whatever, I’ve found Ammo to be a well balanced general purpose mix: social, respectful but with a mild sexual undercurrent. I wear it to work all the time with good results. I used to wear NPA and The Edge to work but found heavy androstenone mixes to be counterproductive (women following me around like puppy dogs). Nevertheless, Ammo sexs up well with a few dabs of NPA or a spray of TE. ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 1:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-vs-tuth-whats-the-difference-and-when-should-each-be-used/10839/14 "2008-04-09T13:54:49Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Turn Up The Heat actually has 8 other pheromones besides androstenone? Are you sure? Androtics is rather secretive but there is no mention of 9 total pheromones on their website description. At 2.5mcg a zap 8 more pheromones would have to be amazingly low traces amount to keep from diluting the androstenone. I think the store description is old. Here is a post that gives some info that Turn Up The Heat has other modifier pheromones which **enhance** the central effect of -none (rather than dilute/buffer it as in Ammo) > [@P is for PANTYSOAKER - P79](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p-is-for-pantysoaker-p79/598/28): > > As of right now, the only consumer product that contains P79 is TUTH v1.1. Of course, the big 'mone in TUTH v1.1 is -None, so P79 isn’t the central focus (like TAA is in Shine). There’s a slew of modifier mones in TUTH to make it more sexual. P79 is one of them. I will try to find the post where Jasmin said the current version is upto 9 pheromones and post later. OK here it is (check out the last paragraph): [Results with Pherlure - #2 by Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/results-with-pherlure/927/2) **Turn Up The Heat’s primary pheromone is \*\*androstenone ([Turn Up the Heat – Sensual Pheromone Spray Cologne for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/))**. It has included 9 others, since v1.1 was released. It also uses essential oils which have been considered erotic over the years. \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2008, 9:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammo-vs-tuth-whats-the-difference-and-when-should-each-be-used/10839/15 "2008-04-09T21:41:33Z")
Well I’ll be dipped in honey 'n rolled in oats. Thanks Nbully. Maybe I’ll try Turn Up The Heat and see if there is any significant difference from using chemset and experimone androstenone. I suspect only a subtle difference but who knows, those trace pheromone might make it rain women. NPA the The Edge–mostly -none–claim to have a steering pheromone (some think A-1). I never could detect any diff reactions from NPA/TE and chemset/experimone androstenones.