# Ammunition Help! **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 21, 2018, 3:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammunition-help/67698 "2018-05-21T03:02:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Ammunition](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Ammunition](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ammunition)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2018, 3:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammunition-help/67698/1 "2018-05-21T03:02:16Z")
Hello everybody, I was a huge fan of Ammunition..unfortunately they have stopped making it. Does anyone know of anything similar or the same or better? Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![wotan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/bb73d2/32.png) [@wotan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wotan)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2018, 3:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammunition-help/67698/2 "2018-05-21T03:37:34Z")
> [@Ammunition](#): > > Hello everybody, I was a huge fan of Ammunition..unfortunately they have stopped making it. Does anyone know of anything similar or the same or better? Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! Alter Ego from Love-Scent is reputed to basically be the same formula, with a different smell. ---
**Author:** ![Ammunition](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ed8c4c/32.png) [@Ammunition](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ammunition)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2018, 3:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammunition-help/67698/3 "2018-05-21T03:55:20Z")
Thank you wotan for the reply! Appreciate it! ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2018, 9:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammunition-help/67698/4 "2018-05-21T09:59:31Z")
AE has a slightly higher Androstenone proportion and slightly lower Rone compared to Ammo plus it is in an oil base, which may balance things-out in the long run but yes, it is the nearest to a direct equivalent that I’ve used. The scent is [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) (orange blossom) or something very similar - which is good on its own and easily covered/complemented by a lot of colognes. Also, ignore what it says on the AE bottle about applying to clothing - Apply to your usual skin points instead to get the best diffusion and a more practical/economic dose. Getting old, smelly mones out of clothing is also a PITA. ---
**Author:** ![datadragon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/datadragon/32/1252_2.png) [@datadragon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/datadragon)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2018, 11:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammunition-help/67698/5 "2018-05-24T23:47:41Z")
Hello Ammunition. I can see you liked Ammo so much you even used that as your handle… Androtics did not discontinue Ammo, they have just closed down their current androticsdirect store and might take some time to reopen their new store at [androtics.com](http://androtics.com) where it will be available again at some point. While there are actually dozens of attraction blends from various vendors that work quite well for general attraction in the meanwhile, Charisma from LPMP has the same pheromones as ammo (Androstenone, Androsterone, and Alpha Androstenol) in a ratio of a young healthy male, so might be slightly different then the 1:1:1 ratio androtics uses and is available in sprays or oils, as well as in several scented versions or [unscented pheromone](https://a314.com/product-category/stealth-unfragranced/) blend with cheap trials as low as 6.50. Its basically like a natural phero sig a healthy fit guy gives off, but is of course enhanced to be stronger and works well. I liked teekayoh scent which is limited edition scent, and also kingmaker scent (kingmaker might be out temp but is part of their permanant lineup so just ask) Alter Ego is also ok although its only in oil and heavier on the androstenone sexual which depends on your base signature can be better or worse causing easier OD or attracting more african americans and older women who are more tolerant to the higher total androstenone. I like Ammo also and the 1:1:1 is nowhere else so hopefully androtics will be back on track at some point and you will be able to buy it again once they open the new store. ---
**Author:** ![wild\_horse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e36b37/32.png) [@wild\_horse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wild_horse)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2018, 3:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammunition-help/67698/6 "2018-06-11T03:56:44Z")
[Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) was also my favorite as well i Used the x2 version . I miss the ff21 scent that was always a winner. I never had any luck using AE. Now i have had luck using straight Enone from the same company. They used to have a product called MR-1 in the 1990’s unscented. The hit’s and IOI’s from that stuff was so blatant just like Ammo. Now i guess i will try some of that Charisma potion that DataDragon mentioned and see what happens. The reviews seem positive. Anyway good luck with finding a good alternative. If you do shoot me a pm and let me know what you find. Thanks