# Ammunition, IS, and TUTH...help please **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 8, 2008, 5:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammunition-is-and-tuth-help-please/13655 "2008-06-08T05:14:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 19\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![sharkboy42003](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharkboy42003/32/2157_2.png) [@sharkboy42003](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharkboy42003)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 5:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammunition-is-and-tuth-help-please/13655/1 "2008-06-08T05:14:02Z")
ok so i got my shippment in of ammunition _REALLY BLAZIN QUICK IF CAME FROM CA N ONE DAY ALL THE WAY TO NC_ and i got my lil freebies of IS and TUTH to goes… today…i felt like i ODed… it smelled horrible in a way but not a bad horrible but a noticable horrible…i know its my decision to figure out where to spray and im liking the fact of spraying both sides of my neck, but how MUCH should i spray? i like ammunition i had a girlfriend over _friend thats a girl not a fancy fancy love shack thing_ and she REALLY likes the smell of it…lol but i oded today and everyone looked at me like im a ogre or something lol…its not the noticabiliy i want i wanna have a POSITIVE attention not a shrek attention. i like the smell and this is wat i did for the first time just by myself…not experimenting but tjust at home figuring out on my own terms wat i like and dislike…but wat i like was: -2 sprays of ammunition _with 1 spray on each side of neck_ -1 spray of instant shine on the back of my neck for some reason i dont think i should have instant shine near my head bc i keep smelling a bad stinch and i know its me _yes im clean as a whistle_…and its that and i know right when i spray IS its a alcohol rubbing like smell… so all in all wat amount or where does everyone like to spray theres at?..id really appreciate the help 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 9:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammunition-is-and-tuth-help-please/13655/2 "2008-06-08T09:32:45Z")
How old are you? If you’re under 20, go with 1 spray of ammo right at the point where your chest and neck meets. Otherwise, you’re going to OD. Switch your dose around and do 2 sprays of [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/). No real chance of OD’ing on it. -D4 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 1:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammunition-is-and-tuth-help-please/13655/3 "2008-06-08T13:53:31Z")
Ok You should start with one spray of ammo and wear it for a few days. You just drastically changed your natural mone signature and I think a lot of guys are mistaking the looks they are getting from people they know with OD. People know your natural signature even though its not a conscious thought. When you change it it throws them off there game a bit and they will look at you weird as they try to place what is different about you. As they become accustomed to it and see you are still the sharkboy they know and love they will relax a bit and the reactions will come naturally. With strangers its a bit different and easier to see if your actually ODing. If they ignore you (the ghost effect) If they are cranky with you. If men are aggressive or competitive. Then its possible you Oded. Keep in mind to if you not used to attention from strangers some of them will look at you weird when effected by the mones. Looks of awe or confusion are common as well as DIHL looks. Now what exactly smelled bad ? Can you describe the horrible ? Tisha ---
**Author:** ![sharkboy42003](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharkboy42003/32/2157_2.png) [@sharkboy42003](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharkboy42003)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 2:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammunition-is-and-tuth-help-please/13655/4 "2008-06-08T14:49:19Z")
it wasnt like a really bad smell… it was like i just had the smell of rubbing alcohol all day on me and im not sure y ima try just wearing one spray of ammo today and maybe separate the instant shine away from my head and maybe on my wrists?😕 idk when i spray ammo on me it smells great at first but even one spray of it after a while it turns to a different smell n its got a unique different smell lol…im not lying idk wat it really smells but up close it smells like the medicated rubbing alcohol.😕 ---
**Author:** ![sharkboy42003](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharkboy42003/32/2157_2.png) [@sharkboy42003](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharkboy42003)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 2:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammunition-is-and-tuth-help-please/13655/5 "2008-06-08T14:51:45Z")
> [@data4](#): > > How old are you? If you’re under 20, go with 1 spray of ammo right at the point where your chest and neck meets. Otherwise, you’re going to OD. Switch your dose around and do 2 sprays of Instant Shine. No real chance of OD’ing on it. > > -D4 sorry forgot to say in last post but im 21 ---
**Author:** ![hyper8](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hyper8/32/1965_2.png) [@hyper8](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hyper8)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 4:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammunition-is-and-tuth-help-please/13655/6 "2008-06-08T16:35:04Z")
I know the smell your talking about. After a few hours the scent fades and you start to smell the None that is in the [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) mix. I don’t know if it is my body chemistry or not but on me the I find the scent fades kinda quick, leaving the phero scent behind. I wouldn’t want to re-apply more ammo and od. ---
**Author:** ![sharkboy42003](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharkboy42003/32/2157_2.png) [@sharkboy42003](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharkboy42003)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 4:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammunition-is-and-tuth-help-please/13655/7 "2008-06-08T16:37:38Z")
i dont od _now hopefully lol_ but i also dont know how to describe it but i think ur getting wat im saying. its hard to actually say it…so draw a picture in imaginationland: motor oil in a way rubbing alcohol but yes it fades away quick…im not hating on it i just need to figure out wat i need to do about it ---
**Author:** ![hyper8](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hyper8/32/1965_2.png) [@hyper8](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hyper8)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 4:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammunition-is-and-tuth-help-please/13655/8 "2008-06-08T16:54:24Z")
Yeah, The none in any mix for that matter will have little sharpness to it. It’s hard to describe I know. I guess if we want to wear pheros, that is what we have to deal with. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![sharkboy42003](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharkboy42003/32/2157_2.png) [@sharkboy42003](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharkboy42003)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 5:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammunition-is-and-tuth-help-please/13655/9 "2008-06-08T17:02:22Z")
lol geez that kinda sux…so do u put nething over it like a cologne? or can u? lol kinda dont wanna smell like that all the time ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 9:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammunition-is-and-tuth-help-please/13655/10 "2008-06-08T21:19:55Z")
I love AMMO so much. I’ve been wearing 2 shots of it too my neck. I’ve tried 3 and didn’t notice anything bad like an OD, Infact girls where very polite with me. I love AMMO so much it’s putting me of using [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) because I don’t want to loose the sexual edge. It’s a shame because Instant Gentleman is my favourite product. I’m 19 so should produce a lot of None naturally but I’ve worn 3 sprays without an OD, is it possible I’m ODing and not realising? Is it possible to intimidate girls with too much none? Say for example I wear 2 sprays and I don’t OD but I intimidate girls my age a bit, in which case 1 would be better and they would be much more receptive. I should note I’ve been buffering the AMMO with 1 spray of Spaceland. ---
**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 10:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammunition-is-and-tuth-help-please/13655/11 "2008-06-08T22:28:22Z")
Ammo by itself is buffered, but your age still makes things tricky. Here’s an idea: rather than putting away your [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/), try replacing one of your Ammo sprays with it. That way, you can still have the benefits of IG while maintaining a sexual edge. -D4 ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 10:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammunition-is-and-tuth-help-please/13655/12 "2008-06-08T22:31:38Z")
So a good base would be 1 Instant Gentleman 1 AMMO and then I could add socials such as: [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), Instant Shine, Instatn Openness and Instant Honesty? ---
**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 10:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammunition-is-and-tuth-help-please/13655/13 "2008-06-08T22:41:23Z")
Sure, but I’d just pick one, maybe two of those at a time. 1 Ammo, 1 IG, 2 IShine, and 1 IH, for example. Don’t want to overdo it. Not only are you producing the -none, like we say over and over for guys your age, but there’s still some other chemistry bubbling around, and you don’t want to go too apeshit on your combo. -D4 ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 10:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammunition-is-and-tuth-help-please/13655/14 "2008-06-08T22:52:55Z")
lol I know, I know it’s just so tempting. Sometimes I want to spray a bit of everything on but I’m learning slowly. Think I’ll try [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/) and AMMO as my base and just rotate the socials to suit the occasion. ---
**Author:** ![sharkboy42003](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharkboy42003/32/2157_2.png) [@sharkboy42003](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharkboy42003)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2008, 11:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammunition-is-and-tuth-help-please/13655/15 "2008-06-08T23:18:19Z")
thats cool wildflower but my ONLY prob is that…iv only had this a couple days and im no way complaining n bickering bout it _not working or sucks_ NO…im not saying that i bet it does work lol i bet it works better than another thing iv tried. im just wondering how do i bypass the smell?..im being honest after 30 minutes of use the smell is GONE and its smells like rubbing alcohol or motor oil…am i ABLE to covor AMMO with something else? ---
**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2008, 12:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammunition-is-and-tuth-help-please/13655/16 "2008-06-09T00:09:42Z")
Sharkboy, since Ammo’s [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) power sticks around for awhile, try spraying it on, waiting that 30 minutes or so until the cologne scent dies down and you smell that motor oil smell (interesting comparison, and yet, I can see that. Heh.), and covering with cologne. The alternative is to get it unscented and then use whatever cologne you use full strength. -D4 ---
**Author:** ![sharkboy42003](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/sharkboy42003/32/2157_2.png) [@sharkboy42003](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sharkboy42003)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2008, 12:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammunition-is-and-tuth-help-please/13655/17 "2008-06-09T00:12:59Z")
so when i wait and it dies off…the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) DONT die off after 30 minutes right? i can spray something over where i sprayed ammo and itl all still be fine? ---
**Author:** ![hyper8](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hyper8/32/1965_2.png) [@hyper8](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hyper8)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2008, 12:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammunition-is-and-tuth-help-please/13655/18 "2008-06-09T00:34:00Z")
I would say if you can still smell the pheros, they are still there. They last a lot longer than the colonge. How long I can’t really say. Many hours I would think.😕 ---
**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2008, 1:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ammunition-is-and-tuth-help-please/13655/19 "2008-06-09T01:37:07Z")
> [@sharkboy42003](#): > > so when i wait and it dies off…the pheromones DONT die off after 30 minutes right? i can spray something over where i sprayed ammo and itl all still be fine? I wouldn’t use smell as an indicator, since most of the Instant Line and Ammo are said to last at least 6 hours. With Ammo, the -none will go a good 8 hours or more. Layering on cologne will actually enhance it rather than hurt it, because it provides a vehicle for the pheromones to diffuse with. You just want to be careful that you’re not overdoing it with all the combined smells, or you’ll come off smelling like, as my Mom used to say, a French whore. -D4