# An Evening With "The Mad Tater" **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 12, 2011, 5:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-evening-with-the-mad-tater/50278 "2011-05-12T05:14:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 2:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-evening-with-the-mad-tater/50278/21 "2011-05-20T02:49:45Z")
> [@Pagodeiro](#): > > Can´t say yet how Est + ANDROSTaNONE play together but it seems that this combo works … > > As for Est + None this works .. tested it yesterday … nols don´t seem to be the attraction factor in the mix .. > > Pago They sound counter-active, I’d be curious to hear what happened as well. ---
**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 10:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-evening-with-the-mad-tater/50278/22 "2011-05-20T10:53:22Z")
I had really good results with an oil based none product … some classic one … and 150mcg LS - Est … will try it out with some AD - none based product like [Raw Power](https://a314.com/product/raw-power/) Test pack and will report my results soon ! but in the meanwhile John 😉 > [@The "MAD TATER" Journal](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330): > > Things the MAD TATER (mwahaha!) has learned. Androstenone can get your #\*$ whupped, fired or worse. And it will be your fault. Instant Openness at high doses can cause what is best described as Audible Diarrhea. Pre-teens and senior citizens will talk until their lips burn off. Instant Honesty is some scary stuff. Wear it at home for a few days before you hit the road. Otherwise, it’s “Hey, did I ever tell you guys about that time I got naked in a gay biker bar?” CTTM is underrated. Social but… Pago ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 4:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-evening-with-the-mad-tater/50278/23 "2011-05-20T16:51:06Z")
> [@Pagodeiro](#): > > but in the meanwhile John 😉 > > [The "MAD TATER" Journal](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-mad-tater-journal/5330) > > Pago Cool thanks ---
**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2011, 5:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-evening-with-the-mad-tater/50278/24 "2011-05-22T17:48:54Z")
After applying the 150mcg Est and 10 drops APC which should have been somewhat 25mcg pure None in an scented oil base on last week .. - which produced very flirtatious behaviour in women and buddy buddy results in males ..I´d get an Moccacino for free in an Italian Coffee bar and i only had a Coke light there …haha I went out on Friday applying 4 Sprays of IFM to the back of the Neck 200mcg´s of Est 10 Sprays CTTM … would have went with less but it was the reminder in the bottle and now i´m out of it .. 4 Sprays MX114 ( Raw power test pack and very very high on None ) First i felt like Gold with this mix … very good … almost GOD like ! No aniexety from the high none sig ! I had women starring from across the room and the waitresses were very kind and attentive ! Males seemed to be a bit irritated but not agressive and responded very good when i opened them ! Some women opened me but none of them was my taste … **NOTE: Women seem to be very pissed of not to get my attention and having no interest in their advances !!** The bouncers on the Door of the Club were very friendly as well ! Obviously i have to go lower with the nols and have to test the mix step by step with every ingredient …hence mones … What i can say now is that None works great with EST but why Tater put so much Nols into the mix in do not know by now … Pago ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 24, 2011, 9:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-evening-with-the-mad-tater/50278/25 "2011-05-24T21:55:15Z")
> [@](#): > > Im not trying to discourage you dbot, but such large dosages of things like **EST** should be used with care: [Estratetraenol from LS is the same as MEO-EST?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/estratetraenol-from-ls-is-the-same-as-meo-est/45166/6) No they are not the same, Meo Est is Methoxyestratetraenone an equilin estrogen steroid which doesn’t occur naturally in humans. This is sold under the equilin name at LS. EST is Estratetraenol which is also sold at LS under that name. This is naturally occurring in humans. Two very different molecules. Anything more then 100 mcg of est is a waste in my opinion. It has a threshold even on females. Tater was always one for mega dosing and using higher then needed amounts with unusual non repeatable results. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 7:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-evening-with-the-mad-tater/50278/26 "2011-05-25T07:25:02Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > No they are not the same, Meo Est is Methoxyestratetraenone an equilin estrogen steroid which doesn’t occur naturally in humans. This is sold under the equilin name at LS. > > EST is Estratetraenol which is also sold at LS under that name. This is naturally occurring in humans. > > Two very different molecules. > > Anything more then 100 mcg of est is a waste in my opinion. It has a threshold even on females. Tater was always one for mega dosing and using higher then needed amounts with unusual non repeatable results. > > Tisha I was recommending to ensure that’s what it is. As we have come across vendors who will sell different forms as the same. I think I’ll quit trying to be helpful 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 9:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-evening-with-the-mad-tater/50278/27 "2011-05-25T09:21:01Z")
> [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > I was recommending to ensure that’s what it is. As we have come across vendors who will sell different forms as the same. > > I think I’ll quit trying to be helpful 🙄 LOL No dont stop trying to be helpful. The reason I mentioned LS having both was to ensure that at least there they are not the same. I know there are some vendors who cross them and think they are the same. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 9:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-evening-with-the-mad-tater/50278/28 "2011-05-25T09:37:24Z")
> [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > I was recommending to ensure that’s what it is. As we have come across vendors who will sell different forms as the same. > > I think I’ll quit trying to be helpful 🙄 I know what you´re talking about John, good Est is hard to come by these days and be insured that if i´d doubt in the Est i´ve bought i´d let a friend of mine check it in the University he´s working for ! He´s holding a Dr´s degree in Biochemistry and is the right hand of the Prof there and could check within an hour if it´s the real deal ! Love Scent is a reputeable company - hence not on the AD blacklist - and i know what good Est does ! I know as well that there was a lot of confusion with Est and Meo in the past … Don´t stop beeing helpful like Tisha said and i totally agree with Tisha that it has several thresholds where it shifts in effects ! 100mcg seems to be a magic barrier where the effects on women change completely .. how MadTater found out … and others as well ! I´m very busy testing at the moment with lately received P90 and so it will take a few days to run another tests on the MadTater - combo. Pago ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2011, 2:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-evening-with-the-mad-tater/50278/29 "2011-05-25T14:44:19Z")
Yup, missed the the LS in there before. Anyway happy sciencing! [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-evening-with-the-mad-tater/50278.md?page=1)