# An Introduction to Mones; Names, Size, Strength, Use, Effects & Length of **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 1, 2010, 6:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43012 "2010-11-01T18:01:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 6:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43012/1 "2010-11-01T18:01:43Z")
**DIRECTORS LOG** : While this is being completed by me to add as a sticky to the Introduction section you need to know this is only a copy and as such will be deleted when the time arrives. I am only placing it because I want the communities feedback. These questions have been asked a gazillion times and while this is not an attempt to discourage questions, I thought maybe it would serve to help answer some of those repeat questions. I will not be including anything on how to use mones for what, or anything complex. It is not how to get around the forum or anything like that. I am looking for any comments on things I might have missed since I have been at it for a while. Welcome to an exciting world of [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/). By joining our community you have taken a HUGE step in progressing a science that is cutting edge and still in its infancy. This community is globally important in recognizing pheromones, and Neuroinfluence Technology ™ and their impact on human communication. There are thousands of posts here and thousands more users. Each one of us, including you, adds a unique dynamic to the community from our individual perspectives, experiences and our research and development of pheromones as consumer based products. However the most important aspect of this experiment you have joined on as a forum called PheromoneTalk, is the community itself. We are a diverse group of doctors, teachers, nuclear physicists, home-makers, bartenders, postal workers, seduction artists, musicians, entrepreneurs, students, millionaires, teenagers, soldiers, professors, rebels, scientists, the list is endless, but the goal of all of us are to better our lives and by doing so to better the world we live in. For this I am elated you have decided to join us, even if only to say hello in passing, I thank you all the same. Your participation is encouraged and welcomed. We treat each other here with the utmost respect and courtesy. Your opinion, questions, results are just as important as anyone else here on the forum. Some questions have been asked many, many times, and presumably will continue to be asked even more. Just remember the only “stupid” questions are the ones that are not asked. Please ask as many as you have and the members here will always be gracious in answering to the best of our abilities with the intention that one day, as soon as you are ready, you too will help in welcoming any questions with open honest feedback that you have come across in your journey of discovery. Just as I began as a client of Androtics myself, way back in January 2007, I too asked many of these same questions. The responses I received were gracious and genuine and from those early days I was “hooked” for life on the community here. My intentions with this guide are not to answer all your questions, not to tell you what product you should buy, not even tell you how the products work, but only answer the most basic of questions like name of the products, how I mix some consumer products up, the size, the strengths and how long some of these pheromones will last on applying them, in the bottle and can you leave them in the car? All questions, we have all had, and all questions that have been answered many times. Questions that will be asked many more times, but its OK, my only hope by answering for you in one guide is to demonstrate the caring incredible nature of PheromoneTalk and perhaps inspire you to answer some questions of your own when the opportunity presents itself. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 8:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43012/2 "2010-11-01T20:56:35Z")
What the Differences between the consumer products (Instant) and Putatives, Experimon **What the Differences between the consumer products (Instant) and Putatives, Experimones, and MX?** Since this is only a guide based on an introduction to pheromone consumer products and not by any means, designed to override personal efforts into research and discovery I will only touch briefly the difference between consumer products and everything else. A consumer product comes with the knowledge and know how of years and years of research of what works! Androtics backs each consumer line product with a full 365 day money back guarantee (please understand this is also only a personal explanation of mones and does not have any bearing, ruling or effect therefore on any policies set forth by the company. In other words this is my personal opinion and cannot be construed as policy of any sort). There are “ **Consumer** ” categories for Men and Women and each have a section for “To Go” size or travel size. The men also have a “ **Oil Based** ” product section. Most Consumer products are designated with the word “ **Instant** ,” however Ammunition, Mystery Boy, Alpha A314, Turn Up The Heat are named as such and do not contain an “ **Instant**.” They are, as I just noted, still consumer based products. Androtics also maintains two products that are considered Pre-Release. This designates that these products are not fully considered “Instant” or “Consumer” but still are sold with a guarantee. The following is a complete list of all Consumer Based Products with a designation of their use by male/female/unisex and/or Gay Male. At this time Androtics does not offer any products designed for lesbians. **Products for Men** - **Ammunition:** Alcohol Based - FF21 Scent Package - Available in 30 ml and To Go Size (For Attraction) - **TUTH:** Alcohol Based - Neroli Scent Package - Available in 30 ml and To Go Size (For SEXUAL Attraction) - **Instant Jerk:** Alcohol Based - Neroli Scent Package - Available in 30 ml and To Go Size (For SEXUAL Attraction) - **Instant Gentleman:** Alcohol Based - Neroli Scent Package - Available in 30 ml and To Go Size (For ALPHA Status) - **Alpha A314:** OIL Based - AKUTO Scent Package - Available in 10 ml (For ALPHA Status) **Gay Male Product** - **Mystery Boy:** Alcohol Based - Neroli Scent Package - Available in 30 ml and To Go Size (For Playful/Party Vibe) **Products for Women** - **Instant Sexiness A:** Alcohol Based - Neroli Scent Package - Available in 30 ml and To Go Size (For Attraction) - **Instant Sexiness B** : Alcohol Based - Neroli Scent Package - Available in 30 ml and To Go Size (For Attraction) **Unisex Products** - **Instant Openness:** Alcohol Based - Neroli Scent Package - Available in 30 ml and To Go Size (For Communication) - **Instant Honesty:** Alcohol Based - Neroli Scent Package - Available in 30 ml and To Go Size (For Deep Rapport) - **Instant Shine:** Alcohol Based - Neroli Scent Package - Available in 30 ml and To Go Size (For Good Time Vibe / Confidence) **Pre-Release Products Unisex** - **Come Talk To Me (mix2):** Alcohol Based - Neroli Scent Package - Available in To Go Size (For Communication/Rapport) - Mix of IH and IO - **Spaceland:** Alcohol Based - Essential Oil Scent Package - Available in To Go Size (For Fun) Any and all of these products, regardless of their designation, can be worn by both male and female. The idea is to experiment and discover what works for you. Both TUTH and Alpha A314 have been worn by some women in very small amounts with great success. Just as female products by men and gay male products by non-gay men. Again please read and research individual posts on the forum and make your determination of what would be right for you based on that. This is only a very basic guide. \*\*Experimental Test Mixes (MX):\*\*These are mixes of ExperiMones and Putatives that are very simply put, experimental. Some have been submitted by our fellow forum members, some merely look like they could be a good idea, some are mixing mistakes that actually show potential. There are no guarantee they will work, but even so, they are still offered with a guarantee. Whenever you see a post or thread about MX followed by a series of three numbers this is what the member is referring too. By their very nature they are experimental and not proven to be effective or may not even work at all. While they might sound romantic and sure, with so many users reporting on them, you might want to jump on the bandwagon. Again we encourage members to participate and do their own research, but please take heed. The members who are reporting on these mixes are mostly well experienced and understand how certain pheromones interact with each other. Everyone of us all started out using the Consumer (Instant) line products I mentioned above. I can promise you a certain type of result when you use A314. With MX??? all I can promise you is that it has pheromones in it. What it does, how it works, why it works is for you to discover and then report back to the rest of us. Many of the MX series are tried and discovered to not be very good and therefore discontinued and shelved as obsolete. Pretty much anything that you are reading that is not in the store has been discontinued and will not be available anymore. Just a heads up as this seems to be the biggest area of questions from our newest members, who should be focusing on Consumer products to get their feet wet. **ExperiMones:** Androtics sells individual KNOWN [pheromone molecules](https://pheromonelabs.com/) under this category. Where as consumer (Instant) line products mentioned above are a mix of ExperiMones and sometimes Putatives, an ExperiMone is a single molecule. While we encourage you to research, these are not guaranteed, have no support services on what to choose or how to use them. As such, they should be left for a later time when you have a little more experience. ExperiMones also consist of all the **TA** molecules which just have been named by the company as such to protect our interests. **Putatives:** These are all individual molecules that show potential to be a pheromone, but have not proven themselves beyond our own research. While we encourage you to research, these are not guaranteed, have no support services on what to choose or how to use them. As such, they should be left for a later time when you have a little more experience. Putatives are unnamed molecules for testing and are named with a number to protect the companies interests. The company will not provide you with with any identifying information as to what the molecule is. All reports on the forum are the opinions of those posting them, but testing these molecules sure is fun. Androtics, like any pheromone company, does not provide you with the ingredients of the consumer products . They do their very best to protect our interests with products that they guarantee to work as promised. I encourage you to continue to ask questions and as always the community will do our best to reply. I hope this helps ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 9:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43012/3 "2010-11-01T21:22:05Z")
Ammo: What’s the difference between regular and World? **Ammo: What’s the difference between regular and World?** This is a question we get often and really the difference is NOTHING, except the scent package. Ammo regular edition is scented with what we call internally here at Androtics FF21. It smells like a laundry detergent or soap like Irish Spring scent. I believe, and I certainly am not a cologne guy, that it has been compared to Creed’s Green Irish Tweed Ammo [World Edition](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/world-edition/) contains FF22 scent package and other than this, there is no difference. FF22 is a stronger more pronounced scent. It has been compared to Creed’s Silver Mountain Water. You will need to read individual reports to determine which one has the right scent for you. Unless specifically searched and ordered (World Edition) you will always get Ammo FF21 Regular. Androtics does this because for the most part it is easily covered with other colognes if you choose. Like I previously mentioned its a clean - fresh out of the shower smell so it just makes sense that its easier covered with your own cologne. Previously way back in 2007 Ammo had its own fragrance, a musky scent, called Ammo. This scent was compared to Cool Water and sometimes to Nautica. In 2008 Ammo scent was changed to Game scent, a flowery light scent I compared to a Paul Sebastien, but again, I’m not a scent guy. Due to FDA rule changes in the USA neither Game scent or Ammo scent are available anymore. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 9:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43012/4 "2010-11-01T21:58:42Z")
What’s the difference between Regular, 2X and 4X? **What’s the difference between Regular, 2X and 4X?** Normally there wouldn’t be a difference between products except the strength itself. You would not get double the results from wearing double strength 🙂, although I can attest that all of us wish it were true. I say normally because in two products both found under the mens section there actually is a considerable difference between regular and 2X. **TUTH and Ammo:** The two products I am referring to are TUTH and Ammo. While this is merely a guide to help our newest members in understanding the very BASICS of [pheromone](https://a314.com/) mixes and some general questions answered, I do feel some back story is needed here. Please bear with me as I will attempt to make this as simple as possible. This is not being done as an insult to your intelligence as quite frankly you were bright enough to find yourself here, which speaks legions about your high-intelligence, but rather to simplify it enough so that you will go on to further your own research and draw your own conclusions. Both, TUTH and Ammunition, contain a molecule named AndrosteNONE (AKA NONE). Where as you will see this molecule on other pheromone related content as the highest allowed by law, guaranteed to get you laid and many other ridiculous marketing ploys.Please do NOT feed into that hype as more of this molecule is NOT a good thing. In actuality very little is needed or you could easily scare your intended target away. Androstenone is actually Mother Natures dirty little trick she plays on men. When we are young we are naturally producing none at very large quantities - think pubescent years. It’s as if most boys 13 to 18 are walking around with a constant erection and most are 😉. Unfortunately at the same time the ladies of that age are repelled by this same molecule. Its like every boy is walking around with an erection wanting to stick it into something 😮. Well as men start to age especially around mid-thirties we start producing less and less AndrosteNONE, but by this time the ladies are comfortable with their sexuality and like the high NONE content. Guess what, the guys that age aren’t producing nearly as much as the young guys and hence the “cougar” effect comes into play. Again a very BASIC explanation of NONE, which leads me into how to order products like TUTH and Ammo. There are other variables but they are not for this guide. If you are a young man, or this is your first order and you are under 45 years old, you should always order regular strength TUTH and Ammo. Unless you are looking to attract women in their late forties or older as a young man or teenager. The only real reason to order 2X of TUTH or Ammo is you are over 45 as more than likely you are producing a low amount and will need to double up, without being too repulsive to females. Another reason would be if you already understand what your sweet spot is and how to obtain it, followed below in another post. In this instance if you are using four sprays than from an economic standpoint using 2X would make sense. You would therefore only need to apply two sprays of 2X rather than four of regular. It also cuts down on the amount of scented product you are using. Please keep in mind, that while I will cover it in greater depth in finding your sweet spot post bellow that using 2X will only give a person 2, 4, 6 or more sprays. In reality while it is possible on some level, you don’t really have the capability to get a half spray out the bottle. If your sweet spot is 3 sprays you are either stuck at to low a dosage at 2 or to high a dosage of 4. It makes a very big difference. **Other Products strengths** : Many other products come with an option for different strengths. For the most part most users find their best results of the social products such as IO, IH, Ishine to be somewhere between 3 and four sprays. While I would say it is still a good idea to determine your sweet spot with these products first, you will generally not have an OD (a bad experience). On that note these products can be ordered in higher concentrations. If a user is wearing 4 sprays of Ishine 4 of IO and 2 of IH they can save some money and wear a whole lot less sprays and cologne. In this example you could go with Ishine 4X and wear one spray, IO 4X and wear one spray and IH 2X and wear one spray. You just saved a bunch of money, your bottle lasts longer and you don’t smell so much like the annoying cologne guy 🙂. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 10:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43012/5 "2010-11-01T22:04:45Z")
What’s the difference between the regular size and to go? **What’s the difference between the regular size and to go?** If we are talking about size, they have 5 mL which is measured by a machine that is so precise it is similarly used in hospitals and research labs to dole out liquids. Where as for both 30 mL and 5 ml and the 10 mL [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) bottles will not be filled to the top but contain their corresponding unit of measurements precisely dispensed. Many to go bottles will give approximately 40 sprays. If a person were to use 3 sprays a day, 5 days a week you would effectively get almost 3 weeks of use. A 30 mL bottle has about 200 sprays: Again at 3 sprays a day, 5 days a week you would get about 13 weeks of usage The 10 mL [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) is oil based and comes with a dropper top with approximately 200 drops. At 2 drops a day, 5 days a week this would give you about 20 weeks of usage. The contents of the bottle, otherwise, are exactly the same 😛 ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 10:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43012/6 "2010-11-01T22:11:12Z")
How long will pheromones last on skin, bottle, car, closet, shelf, etc? **How long will pheromones last on skin, bottle, car, closet, shelf, etc?** Average lifespan of any and all pheromones has a shelf life of three years. Extremes of heat and/or cold can damage the [mones](http://www.pheromonetalk.com/). Direct sunlight is also mentioned as a potential for damage by community members. Many members, including myself, have left pheromone bottles in the center console of our cars for extended periods without noticeable damage or decreased effectiveness. While it is not recommended it is plausible that at some time it will happen. I live in Memphis TN where the inside heat of my car has reached well over 200 degrees on a hot summer day. Again not recommended but I’ve never noticed any difference in effectiveness. I like to carry to go bottles of products for easy application in the car before I enter a venue if my drive takes a while to get me there. Please keep in mind that pheromones are natural “odors” and can infuse themselves into materials, such as car rugs, upholstery. As such I usually tend to keep the nozzle close to my skin so as to not mist the entire car, thus creating a smelly car. Most alcohol based [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/) have a life of about 2-6 hours depending on the product. Heavier molecules like [androsteNONE](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/) (-NONE) can last 12 hours or longer. Products like Instant Shine is usually on the low end and for me lasts about 2-4 hours. Oil based [A314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) lasts about 6-8 with the very best exposure at around 4-5 hours. All pheromone products depend on environmental variables such as heat or chill of the venue. Pheromones diffuse quicker in hot environments so if its warm and humid, much like Memphis, TN, their effectiveness can be greatly diminished much quicker. In a cooler climate they will last longer. You do not need to store your pheromones in any special containers, or in the fridge 🙂. I keep mine on a book shelf in my room and have had some since early 2007, that as far as I can tell, have not lost any effectiveness. Most of those are empty now though and I have new stuff. Hope this helps 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 11:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43012/7 "2010-11-01T23:24:56Z")
How Do I make a mix with Consumer Products? **How Do I make a mix with Consumer Products?** This is the easiest question to answer thanks to Jasmin and MHarris. It’s really as simple as taking the succinct description of the product and adding it to another product. An example for me would be: A314: James Bond Alpha Male status add Ammo and Now I get Sexy James Bond Alpha Male status add Ishine and Now I get Sexy James Bond Alpha Male status who everyone likes to be around cause I make them smile add some IO and Now I get Sexy James Bond Alpha Male status who everyone likes to be around cause I make them smile and people are so open to talking with. Yep it really is that easy to make a mix using any of the Consumer (Instant) products 🙂. Here’s my succinct descriptions of each product: **Products for Men** - **Ammunition:** Sexy Man - **Turn Up The Heat:** Sexual Man - **Instant Jerk:** Every Girls Sexual Fantasy - **Instant Gentleman:** Warm Charismatic Alpha Sean Connery Guy - **Alpha A314:** James Bond Alpha Male **Gay Male Product** - **Mystery Boy:** Party Boy **Products for Women** - **Instant Sexiness A:** Angelina Jolie a lady for any occasion, but in control - **[Instant Sexiness B](https://phera.com/product/kitten/)**: Natalie Portman, soft feminine and girly-girl **Unisex Products** - **Instant Openness:** I feel like I can talk for hours - the quantity of the conversation - **Instant Honesty:** Deep rapport -I feel like I can talk about anything - the Quality of the conversation - **Instant Shine:** Whenever I am around you I’m always smiling - how attractive **Pre-Release Products Unisex** - **Come Talk To Me (mix2):** Mix of Instant Honesty and Instant Openness -I feel like I can talk for hours about anything - **Spaceland:** Party Naked! So again all I am doing is deciding what each product means to me and simply mixing my descriptions with the other products description to come up with a mix. Remember that these are my descriptions and you will come up with your own over time. Keep in mind that mixing of NONE based products like TUTH, AMMO and IJerk isn’t such a good idea unless you understand what you are doing. Again though this is only a guide and as always I encourage you to ask questions. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 11:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43012/8 "2010-11-01T23:37:07Z")
What’s a Phero Baptism? **What’s a Phero Baptism?** Its really as simple and common place as what every one of us at some point or another have done. When we first get all our mones that first time we get super excited and want to go just a little bit nutty. I mean after all, who can blame you with such amazing reports and exciting adventures? It was the very first thing I did when I signed on and I had an incredible week of WOWs! Its basically a matter of spraying yourself a few shots of everything you get and going out. Just be careful and don’t overdue it on NONE based products like [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), IJ, TUTH or you will OD (Bad reaction). Remember when it comes to NONE, more is not a good thing, but chose one of those and spray yourself three times and then three times of everything else. Make sure you sin around in three complete circles while repeating “I will have fun and allow myself to live life to the fullest.” Once done hop to your door on one foot while clucking like a chicken. OR, in other words go out and have some fun. Sure, many members are pretty scientific and thorough, but every one of us have done this and its an important step too. It gives you that opportunity to go out and simply enjoy the mones and forget about sweet spots and what this does and what that does. There will be enough time for that too. In the meantime get it out of your system and go and have yourself a blast. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [November 1, 2010, 11:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43012/9 "2010-11-01T23:54:47Z")
How to Find Your Sweet Spot? **How to Find Your Sweet Spot?** OK so hopefully you got the PheroBaptism out of your system and now its time to get to the real business of discovery. You’ll want to understand how each product works so that you can get the most “bang” for your buck. I put this guide together, quite some time ago, but revised it so it’s more current. Just remember with the socials you really can’t OD (Bad experience) with them. Products like IShine, IO, IH, CTTM, are all designed to increase communication. You are certainly welcome to use this guide if you choose with them, but I think you’ll find most of us use about 3 or more sprays with them regularly. This guide is more designed to work better with products that alter our attraction factor to others. Remember this is only a guide and not an absolute must do, but it can and will help you in discovering the best amount you should use. Pheromones are not one size fits all so this will help you in determining what works best for you. It’s a good idea when applying the pheromones to ensure that you are using only one [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/) at a time. This step is important and shouldn’t be skipped. It ensures you are getting the proper results without extenuating circumstances. What works for Ammo, might be completely different for TUTH. However if you are familiar with a product like Ishine and are adding TUTH to the mix, just remember that it might give you completely different results if later you were to remove IShine from the mix. If at all possible test individual mixes by themselves. Taking into consideration that above, please follow these guidelines and soon you too, will have experience with your very own sweet spot. Use one (1) spray each day for three days Take a couple days off Use two (2) sprays each day for three days Take a couple days off Use three (3) sprays each day for three days Take a couple days off Use four (4) sprays each day for three days Take a couple days off If you want, on your days off from that product you could go to another product, alternating between social and attraction. The days and schedule listed above do not have to be sequential days. If you only have a few days a week to test, then test those few days a week. I would advise you to use the same product then those days. Remember the key here is to have fun and find what works best for you. Everyone is different and there are lots of variables. Use your good sense 🙂 I also suggest keeping a journal. This journal should include any hits noticed or anything out of the ordinary. Even if you don’t believe it was a hit you should write it down. I have discussed this with numerous forum members and everyone always asks me: “what happens if three sprays is my sweet spot, should I just stop there?” The answer is no! Here’s why: you have no way of knowing if you just stop at three (or where ever) if you don’t push it above that if maybe more is better. Nothing to compare it too. Three maybe good, but four maybe better, so if you stop at three you might be short-changing yourself. Again though, the point of this exercise is to discover what works best for you. Please use the method that works best for you too 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 12:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43012/10 "2010-11-02T00:14:10Z")
**Directors Log:** Again I want to reemphasize this thread when completed will be deleted. When finished any posts for inclusion will be moved to the actual thread and when finished it will be locked and stickied. I think it will be valuable to have one useful post after another rather than having a hundred pages to sort through to find the answer. All submissions will be credited to their rightful owner. Your feedback and support is, as always, appreciated and requested. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 12:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43012/11 "2010-11-02T00:25:40Z")
See this helped me. To add Application points Skin vs clothes Layering Cologne covering secretions of North American Wombat while singing whiskey in the jarro Nude ---
**Author:** ![1Alpha](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1alpha/32/190_2.png) [@1Alpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1Alpha)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 2:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43012/12 "2010-11-02T02:15:19Z")
> [@Steve](#): > > See this helped me. > > To add > Application points > Skin vs clothes > Layering > Cologne covering > secretions of North American Wombat while singing whiskey in the jarro Nude North American **Wombat** ([http://www.photoseek.com/04AUS-30201-Wombat.jpg](http://www.photoseek.com/04AUS-30201-Wombat.jpg))?!? Ok…I’ll assume you’ve gotten _that_ question since you’ve been here a while…I can understand about the singing whiskey in the Nude part…but…secretions of a Wombat?!? I’d also say that yes, I’m answering questions on ‘Can I use my cologne with these products or will they blow up?’ Basically, can cover scents be used without affecting the mones. Also, to a lesser extent, will there be any adverse health effects of long term use? I know there isn’t anything concrete on that, but, just sayin’, it’s asked once in a while! Oh, and touching on congruency I think is a must as you get some that have an unreasonable expectation of making a MAN out of a mouse. Try to post more as they come to mind! Thanks Steve for updating this! I also like Tisha’s thread in my sig on hits but that could be pushing it for an intro thread. ---
**Author:** ![forynav](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@forynav](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/forynav)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 3:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43012/13 "2010-11-02T03:48:45Z")
coolness. also talk about the forbidden mone (in code, of course) ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 4:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43012/14 "2010-11-02T04:02:13Z")
How would you describe my to-go salsa mix today, lol. All to-go’s: 3x ammo FF21 + 2x IS + 1x CTTM2 A sexy man that makes me smile and whom I want to talk for hours? lol Isn’ that like Hugh Grant? lol > [@Steve](#): > > **How Do I make a mix with Consumer Products?** > > This is the easiest question to answer thanks to Jasmin and MHarris. It’s really as simple as taking the succinct description of the product and adding it to another product. An example for me would be: > A314: James Bond Alpha Male status > add Ammo and Now I get Sexy James Bond Alpha Male status > add Ishine and Now I get Sexy James Bond Alpha Male status who everyone likes to be around cause I make them smile > add some IO and Now I get Sexy James Bond Alpha Male status who everyone likes to be around cause I make them smile and people are so open to talking with. > > Yep it really is that easy to make a mix using any of the Consumer (Instant) products 🙂. > > Here’s my succinct descriptions of each product: > > **Products for Men** > > - **Ammunition:** Sexy Man > - **Turn Up The Heat:** Sexual Man > - **Instant Jerk:** Every Girls Sexual Fantasy > - **Instant Gentleman:** Warm Charismatic Alpha Sean Connery Guy > - **Alpha A314:** James Bond Alpha Male > > **Gay Male Product** > > - **Mystery Boy:** Party Boy > > **Products for Women** > > - **Instant Sexiness A:** Angelina Jolie a lady for any occasion, but in control > - **Instant Sexiness B** : Natalie Portman, soft feminine and girly-girl > > **Unisex Products** > > - **Instant Openness:** I feel like I can talk for hours - the quantity of the conversation > - **Instant Honesty:** Deep rapport -I feel like I can talk about anything - the Quality of the conversation > - **Instant Shine:** Whenever I am around you I’m always smiling - how attractive > > **Pre-Release Products Unisex** > > - **Come Talk To Me (mix2):** Mix of Instant Honesty and Instant Openness -I feel like I can talk for hours about anything > - **Spaceland:** Party Naked! > > So again all I am doing is deciding what each product means to me and simply mixing my descriptions with the other products description to come up with a mix. Remember that these are my descriptions and you will come up with your own over time. Keep in mind that mixing of NONE based products like TUTH, AMMO and IJerk isn’t such a good idea unless you understand what you are doing. Again though this is only a guide and as always I encourage you to ask questions. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 5:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43012/15 "2010-11-02T05:21:46Z")
Maybe a post about how to be congruent with certain products or mixes. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 4:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43012/16 "2010-11-02T16:48:23Z")
Something about range: thanks for the suggestion Paradox ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 4:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43012/17 "2010-11-02T16:50:43Z")
> [@1Alpha](#): > > North American **Wombat** ([http://www.photoseek.com/04AUS-30201-Wombat.jpg](http://www.photoseek.com/04AUS-30201-Wombat.jpg))?!? Ok…I’ll assume you’ve gotten _that_ question since you’ve been here a while…I can understand about the singing whiskey in the Nude part…but…secretions of a Wombat?!? > > I’d also say that yes, I’m answering questions on ‘Can I use my cologne with these products or will they blow up?’ Basically, can cover scents be used without affecting the mones. > > Also, to a lesser extent, will there be any adverse health effects of long term use? I know there isn’t anything concrete on that, but, just sayin’, it’s asked once in a while! > > Oh, and touching on congruency I think is a must as you get some that have an unreasonable expectation of making a MAN out of a mouse. > > Try to post more as they come to mind! > > Thanks Steve for updating this! I also like Tisha’s thread in my sig on hits but that could be pushing it for an intro thread. Thanks, I already have the cologne aspect covered. I just need to write it. This is not going to be anything but VERY basics so questions that MAY come up will not be covered like health. Also congruency cannot be covered by a simple FAQ. I think all that other stuff like that are hugely important and therefore questions should be asked regularly. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [November 2, 2010, 4:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43012/18 "2010-11-02T16:52:59Z")
this should be stickied! How about questions like does pheromone makes this girl I liked since kindergarden crazy about me? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 12:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43012/19 "2010-11-03T00:17:39Z")
Great work Steve. One suggestion for post number 7. The word mix can be confusing to people. I would change it to combo and then stress layering so people dont get confused and mix it in a bottle. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 12:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43012/20 "2010-11-03T00:21:57Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Great work Steve. One suggestion for post number 7. The word mix can be confusing to people. I would change it to combo and then stress layering so people dont get confused and mix it in a bottle. > > Tisha great idea. Thanks [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43012.md?page=2)