# And so begins a new journey!.....I hope....

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**Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\
**Created:** [March 22, 2009, 4:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/and-so-begins-a-new-journey-i-hope/27302 "2009-03-22T04:52:26Z")\
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**Author:** ![WoahYourBoat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/woahyourboat/32/1913_2.png) [@WoahYourBoat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WoahYourBoat)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 4:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/and-so-begins-a-new-journey-i-hope/27302/1 "2009-03-22T04:52:26Z")

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First, I must say this forum is absolutley brilliant. I’ve been prowling around for a couple days now. I have learnt (learned) alot so far and hope to contribute greatly to the vastness of archived information collected thus far! Now for my basic breakdown:  
Height-5 ft 10 inches  
Weight-156 lbs  
Hair-Dirty blonde  
Eyes-Grey (Gray)  
Age-22  
Build- Fit/athletic  
IQ-Higher than bush  
Looks-um look at my profile pic.  
Blood- Havent a clue (but i will find out)  
Accent-Newscaster type voice LOL  
History with women-Dismal,  
Never had a girlfriend unfortunately!  
Never even been on a date!  
Never even kissed a girl!  
Not even close to being a virgin though (Figure that one out!)  
Thats me in a nutshell.  
I have recently purchased [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) 1x TUTH small size, and A314.  
I have one question if i may…  
What pheromones do you suggest i get in the near future taking into account my age (22) and the fact that i cant seem to get a date, I just want a no pressure normal gal and ive been turned down at least 10 times in the past 6 months! Anyway far be it from me to play the victim, I just needed to vent LOL  
Thanks in advance for any advice or greetings, Cheers!🙂

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**Author:** ![Maromi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/maromi/32/809_2.png) [@Maromi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maromi)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 5:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/and-so-begins-a-new-journey-i-hope/27302/2 "2009-03-22T05:00:03Z")

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Hey There 🙂  
I feel your pain. [Pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) will definitely help though!  
How would you describe your personality? Are you shy or outgoing?  
Do you have any particular girl you are trying to attract?  
Are you looking for any self-effects?

It’s so nice to meet you!!

~Tiffany~

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**Author:** ![happykitsune](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/happykitsune/32/2415_2.png) [@happykitsune](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happykitsune)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 5:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/and-so-begins-a-new-journey-i-hope/27302/3 "2009-03-22T05:08:04Z")

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Hello there and welcome!

I’m sorry about your rejections. I’ve had the same problem only a few weeks ago. Got rejected 3 times..

Pheros can help tho, but I need to know a little more about you. Like more abt your personality.

Such as, are you shy or are you just a little awkward around women?

Do you have confidence or seek to increase your confidence?

Do you need to become more aggressive because your too passive? Or are you too aggressive?

Besides talking more to women and getting somewhere do you want more from pheros? Such as respect at work or increase you social life?

Well get back to us on all this and we’ll definitely help you out as best we can. Good luck!

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**Author:** ![Vespero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vespero/32/988_2.png) [@Vespero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vespero)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 5:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/and-so-begins-a-new-journey-i-hope/27302/4 "2009-03-22T05:12:23Z")

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Welcome to the forum, WoahYourBoat! Good description, and I definitely wonder about the no virginity but not kissed thing. Anyway, you picked two androstenone heavy mixes, A314 and Turn Up the Heat. The latter is actually pure dosed androstenone, and isn’t recommended for casual social settings. Instant Shine could work well there, and you could make do by buffering a spray or two of Turn Up the Heat with Instant Shine, but ultimately, you need more social mixes, such as [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) or Instant Honesty, and Ammo.

Sorry to hear about all the rejections. Why do you think you keep getting rejected? Is it your approach? Are you going after girls you know, or are you attempting to pick up girls in clubs? Do you think it’s simply a confidence issue that they may be picking up on? Pheromones can help, but what truly works wonders is figuring out what you’re doing wrong from the viewpoint of pure human interaction.

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**Author:** ![WoahYourBoat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/woahyourboat/32/1913_2.png) [@WoahYourBoat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WoahYourBoat)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 5:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/and-so-begins-a-new-journey-i-hope/27302/5 "2009-03-22T05:15:11Z")

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> [@Maromi](#):
>
> Hey There 🙂  
> I feel your pain. Pheromones will definitely help though!  
> How would you describe your personality? Are you shy or outgoing?  
> Do you have any particular girl you are trying to attract?  
> Are you looking for any self-effects?
> 
> It’s so nice to meet you!!
> 
> ~Tiffany~

_How would you describe your personality?-_ Id say im really overwhelming for alot of people not just women. I tend to be very passionate about everything, and as my female friend puts it so eloquently “You just Ooze class.” Men tend to walk the other way when im around, and other men with not even make eye contact with me. And women look at me and just show signs of nervousness. Its rather odd sounding but it happens everyday in college.

_Are you shy or outgoing?-_ Im not shy really. I talk to complete strangers (mostly women) 0n a daily basis.

_Do you have any particular girl you are trying to attract?-_ No, no one specific. But if i had to place an age range 20-25. Older women seem very interested in me alot moreso than younger girls, however I want to date within my age range.

_Are you looking for any self-effects?-_ umm maybe a calming effect if any of them do that.

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**Author:** ![WoahYourBoat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/woahyourboat/32/1913_2.png) [@WoahYourBoat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WoahYourBoat)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 5:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/and-so-begins-a-new-journey-i-hope/27302/6 "2009-03-22T05:24:13Z")

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> [@happykitsune](#):
>
> Hello there and welcome!
> 
> I’m sorry about your rejections. I’ve had the same problem only a few weeks ago. Got rejected 3 times..
> 
> Pheros can help tho, but I need to know a little more about you. Like more abt your personality.
> 
> Such as, are you shy or are you just a little awkward around women?
> 
> Do you have confidence or seek to increase your confidence?
> 
> Do you need to become more aggressive because your too passive? Or are you too aggressive?
> 
> Besides talking more to women and getting somewhere do you want more from pheros? Such as respect at work or increase you social life?
> 
> Well get back to us on all this and we’ll definitely help you out as best we can. Good luck!

_Such as, are you shy or are you just a little awkward around women?-_ Niether I tend to get along great, as mush as it pains me to admit this i must reluctantly say most women peg me a gay. I have never figured out why this is but it happens alot.

_Do you have confidence or seek to increase your confidence?-_ I would love more confidence but i think i definitley have enough already.

_Do you need to become more aggressive because your too passive? Or are you too aggressive?-_ I think i need to be much more aggressive than i am.

_Besides talking more to women and getting somewhere do you want more from pheros? Such as respect at work or increase you social life?-_ Any pheros that would help with a most male work enviorment. Men ten to run away from me like im 300 pounds and 6 foot 5. This sounds like a joke but im dead serious.

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**Author:** ![Maromi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/maromi/32/809_2.png) [@Maromi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maromi)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 5:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/and-so-begins-a-new-journey-i-hope/27302/7 "2009-03-22T05:30:10Z")

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> [@WoahYourBoat](#):
>
> _How would you describe your personality?-_ Id say im really overwhelming for alot of people not just women. I tend to be very passionate about everything, and as my female friend puts it so eloquently “You just Ooze class.” Men tend to walk the other way when im around, and other men with not even make eye contact with me. And women look at me and just show signs of nervousness. Its rather odd sounding but it happens everyday in college.
> 
> _Are you shy or outgoing?-_ Im not shy really. I talk to complete strangers (mostly women) 0n a daily basis.
> 
> _Do you have any particular girl you are trying to attract?-_ No, no one specific. But if i had to place an age range 20-25. Older women seem very interested in me alot moreso than younger girls, however I want to date within my age range.
> 
> _Are you looking for any self-effects?-_ umm maybe a calming effect if any of them do that.

For you I would recommend [Instant Gentleman](https://a314.com/product/gentleman/). It will help give you that “cool guy” vibe and also make you more confident and chill. I would also recommend Ammo. Ammo will help make girls more sexually attracted you. Instant Shine is another great one for giving you confidence. It helps put you and those around you in a better mood 🙂

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**Author:** ![WoahYourBoat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/woahyourboat/32/1913_2.png) [@WoahYourBoat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WoahYourBoat)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 5:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/and-so-begins-a-new-journey-i-hope/27302/8 "2009-03-22T05:31:59Z")

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> [@Vespero](#):
>
> Welcome to the forum, WoahYourBoat! Good description, and I definitely wonder about the no virginity but not kissed thing. Anyway, you picked two androstenone heavy mixes, A314 and Turn Up the Heat. The latter is actually pure dosed androstenone, and isn’t recommended for casual social settings. Instant Shine could work well there, and you could make do by buffering a spray or two of Turn Up the Heat with Instant Shine, but ultimately, you need more social mixes, such as Instant Openness or Instant Honesty, and Ammo.
> 
> Sorry to hear about all the rejections. Why do you think you keep getting rejected? Is it your approach? Are you going after girls you know, or are you attempting to pick up girls in clubs? Do you think it’s simply a confidence issue that they may be picking up on? Pheromones can help, but what truly works wonders is figuring out what you’re doing wrong from the viewpoint of pure human interaction.

_Why do you think you keep getting rejected? Is it your approach?-_ Im not entirely sure as to the source of my rejections, I find that I come off very ummm how do I put this… deserved.

_Are you going after girls you know, or are you attempting to pick up girls in clubs?-_ I attend college this would be the main resource for me, I do not go out to clubs or bars I find the women there are not what im looking for. No i dont know the girls i tend to ask out.

_Do you think it’s simply a confidence issue that they may be picking up on?-_ No, If anything i come off too confident (Cocky).

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**Author:** ![WoahYourBoat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/woahyourboat/32/1913_2.png) [@WoahYourBoat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WoahYourBoat)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 5:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/and-so-begins-a-new-journey-i-hope/27302/9 "2009-03-22T05:39:25Z")

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> [@Maromi](#):
>
> For you I would recommend Instant Gentleman. It will help give you that “cool guy” vibe and also make you more confident and chill. I would also recommend Ammo. Ammo will help make girls more sexually attracted you. Instant Shine is another great one for giving you confidence. It helps put you and those around you in a better mood 🙂

Ive heard [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is slightly better than TUTH. I think i may try that one after my first week or so of trials. Instant gentleman sounds like a great recommendation. I’ll have to search the forums to see the various reactions to it but it sounds great just from the description provided by smartmones. Thanks a bunch your advice is golden.

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**Author:** ![Racer3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Racer3](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Racer3)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 3:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/and-so-begins-a-new-journey-i-hope/27302/10 "2009-03-22T15:31:09Z")

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Just use the advise these great people are giving you and you will be good to go. you will learn alot. I am also new to all this and I am a believer.🙂

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**Author:** ![Maromi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/maromi/32/809_2.png) [@Maromi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maromi)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 7:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/and-so-begins-a-new-journey-i-hope/27302/11 "2009-03-22T19:02:03Z")

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> [@WoahYourBoat](#):
>
> Ive heard Ammo is slightly better than TUTH. I think i may try that one after my first week or so of trials. Instant gentleman sounds like a great recommendation. I’ll have to search the forums to see the various reactions to it but it sounds great just from the description provided by smartmones. Thanks a bunch your advice is golden.

Anytime 🙂

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2009, 11:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/and-so-begins-a-new-journey-i-hope/27302/12 "2009-03-23T11:32:49Z")

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Hello Welcome to Pherotalk 🙂

First lets analyze why your getting all these rejections.

From the information you have given here (and I don’t mean to be insulting, I am just being honest to help you achieve your goals) …

You may be coming on to strong almost to the point of being pompous more then cocky which is a trait women associate with being gay. Don’t get me wrong women love gay men they make great friends but you don’t want to give that signal. I am not saying you are deliberately acting this way but you mention your highly passionate about certain things and it can come off this way so think about toning that down a little so you don’t overwhelm. This may be why men are also not making eye contact and turning away, they are getting a gay vibe even though your not. It can happen to some men and I have seen it before.

I suggest IH to evoke deeper more meaningful connections with people.

IG is good to give you a more masculine smooth centered vibe.

AMMO to increase attraction and create a little sexual tension.

This should move them away from feeling any gay vibes they are possibly getting.

Again I do hope I didn’t insult you, I am sure your a great guy and we all have different personality quirks. Your ahead of the game when you recognize your own so you can work on them.

My own personality flaws. I am blunt and can be pushy LOL See we all have them 😃

**Your GC is on its way**

Tisha  
Hostess/Guide
