# And yet another newbie **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [January 17, 2008, 7:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/and-yet-another-newbie/8388 "2008-01-17T19:26:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 8\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![marioC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c89c15/32.png) [@marioC](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marioC)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 7:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/and-yet-another-newbie/8388/1 "2008-01-17T19:26:42Z")
Hey everyone, I’m 26, male and live in Finland. I’ve heard about [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) for quite a while so here I am. Why I’m here.. I’m generally alright in social situations, but am terrible in bars/nightclubs…which is quite unfortunate considering thats where most people go to meet new people. Well, I thought I would give this a try. If nothing else, the forum seems quite honest, and so a good place to discuss such things.. ---
**Author:** ![Kusro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f05b48/32.png) [@Kusro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kusro)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 7:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/and-yet-another-newbie/8388/2 "2008-01-17T19:44:12Z")
Hey Marioc, Welcome to the forum! We have a few people from scandinavia join the forum recently. Order a few to go sizes of Instant Shine, [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) and a full size of AMMO. Experiment with these in the club scene. Turn Up the Heat is also a good phero for the night clubs. So are you generally shy? Read the information in the stickies in the men’s forum. You can always experiment, observe and ask questions, share your experiences here. Hope you enjoy the pheros and the forum.😃 ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 7:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/and-yet-another-newbie/8388/3 "2008-01-17T19:47:40Z")
Hello Mario and welcome to the forum. We are starting to get quite a few Scandanavians here. But of course I think you are still outnumbered by the Ausssies. Better get a few friends to join up to build up your numbers -lol. Kusro gave you some good advice on products. I would be careful though with the Turn Up The Heat. I have found it works best once you know she is interested. Even some of the female members with a lot of experience pretty much said the same thing. Let the Ammo, CTTM and [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) help you build the interest. I can assure you that these products are real and that they work. I have been using them for quite a while. However, they are not a magic potion. They do give you and edge if used properly but you have to do something positive to take advantage of that edge. You will also have to experiment with the products a little at first because the specific effects at a given dosage varies person to person based on your personal body chemistry and personality. Always best to start low and work with one product at a time. If you have more questions, just ask. In the meantime, read the Stickies in the Men’s Forum as they have a lot of good info. Again, welcome to the forum and good luck. ---
**Author:** ![marioC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c89c15/32.png) [@marioC](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marioC)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 7:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/and-yet-another-newbie/8388/4 "2008-01-17T19:56:35Z")
thanks for the replies. maybe i wasn’t clear in the posting.. i am actually not shy at all. nightclubs just seem to be the place where _every_ guy is “creepy” etc etc. maybe they just don’t fit with my personality.. i dont know. the one thing i have been wondering about are the logistics of what (atleast the advanced) people post. it seems that during different phases of their night, they put on completely different mixes. how does that work? do they just carry this stuff around? and by the end of it all, you have something like a dozen products on you. there seems to be a lot of info about the products, but very little practical info surrounding their use 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 8:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/and-yet-another-newbie/8388/5 "2008-01-17T20:04:43Z")
OK - the sweet spot seems to be 3-4 hours for maximum effect. After that - especially in places where you may have a lot of olfactory competition, a lot of users re-apply. sometimes the whole mix, or sometimes just part of the mix - usually the 'none components. What we do is get empty To Go bottles or small atomizers, use droppers to put in the products we will want to freshen up with later (in the appropriate ratios), and just carry that around in our pocket. And when the time comes, slide into the man’s room, spray spray spray, and back out into the fray. I guys seem creepy in nightclubs then definitely go with Instant Shine and [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/). Combine that with Ammo and you should have a winning combination for Finnish nightclubs. ---
**Author:** ![mockingbird](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mockingbird/32/1790_2.png) [@mockingbird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2008, 9:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/and-yet-another-newbie/8388/6 "2008-01-17T21:57:33Z")
Welcome Mario! I see that u already received many great advices. Good luck putting them into practice! Like everyone said, ammo is great for bars and it is also easy to controle the dosage. You can still try all those to-go bottle to get a general idea of how they work, or if u like them or not. ---
**Author:** ![Patratt](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/patratt/32/971_2.png) [@Patratt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Patratt)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2008, 4:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/and-yet-another-newbie/8388/7 "2008-01-18T04:51:45Z")
Welcome Mario! Hey! Welcome! You are right these forums are very honest and it is a good place with real experienced users of the products you wanna use. I bet Finland is a very interesting place to live. If you are looking for a social product that is fun to use, you have come to the right place. I know you have gotten good advice already. So, I am just gonna once again welcome you and wish you the very best in your phero-journey! ~Patratt~ ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2008, 4:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/and-yet-another-newbie/8388/8 "2008-01-19T16:10:36Z")
Hello Mario Welcome to pherotalk 🙂 You have gotten some good advice from the guys, I think [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and Ishine are a great place to start. Both really good products. Tuth is strong and gives clear sexual signals so go easy on that and read up in the forum on it before you embark on your phero journey. Your GC will arrive in your email box in the next 24 hours. Tisha 😉