# Andrew's Pheromone Journal

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/andrews-pheromone-journal/6541>\
**Category:** Men's Journals\
**Created:** [November 10, 2007, 12:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/andrews-pheromone-journal/6541 "2007-11-10T00:00:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 5

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**Author:** ![z414a4d](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/z414a4d/32/1299_2.png) [@z414a4d](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/z414a4d)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2007, 1:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/andrews-pheromone-journal/6541/81 "2007-11-18T01:43:09Z")

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I did! I really did feel the effects. I knew i did because i forgot about the IS and looked back on the night later on and totally saw it!

Its…honestly, exactly how it is described..

Heres my version…in hard to understand, improper english…Its how i roll 😛

Uplifting light feeling in the air. Happy, Fun. Easy to talk. No worries. good time’ish. Something I will definatly incorporate in my finalized sig down the road forever and ever. You just cant get that out of regular cologne, and IMO its one of the best smelling stuff i have ever had! Its a light scent and according to Tisha I cant OD on it. So you cant lose! It made me and my friend (female) both really giggly. We were watching the soup on E! . really funny show, and just sat and made jokes the whole time. It was a huge effect..I can only imagine how much more Spaceland affects people…whew…i gotta try that stuff!

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**Author:** ![z414a4d](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/z414a4d/32/1299_2.png) [@z414a4d](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/z414a4d)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2007, 1:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/andrews-pheromone-journal/6541/82 "2007-11-18T01:47:40Z")

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Oh, im gonna go to my first bar later tonight. Im only 20 but one of my employees works security at one of the local venues. Should be a good time, gonna try out IS…and only IS…too risky to use anything else being underage and reading some of the horror stories involving TUTH and clubs…

TUTH + club bouncers = bummer

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**Author:** ![z414a4d](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/z414a4d/32/1299_2.png) [@z414a4d](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/z414a4d)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2007, 1:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/andrews-pheromone-journal/6541/83 "2007-11-18T01:49:45Z")

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Ok journal…one last quick update tonight before I take off later…

My cat goes phuckin [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) crazy with my A314!! shes meows and trys her hardest to get to where im/I applying/applied the pheromone. pretty funny.

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**Author:** ![spot007](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@spot007](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/spot007)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2007, 7:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/andrews-pheromone-journal/6541/84 "2007-11-18T07:40:34Z")

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> [@z414a4d](#):
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> My cat goes phuckin pheromone crazy with my A314!! shes meows and trys her hardest to get to where im/I applying/applied the pheromone. pretty funny.

Yeah, my girl’s dog is always trying to sniff at my application points. He’s always liked me and respected me, even before I started wearing pheros, but he just seems to like me even more now, LOL…

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**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2007, 10:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/andrews-pheromone-journal/6541/85 "2007-11-18T10:00:34Z")

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> [@z414a4d](#):
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> Ok journal…one last quick update tonight before I take off later…
> 
> My cat goes phuckin pheromone crazy with my A314!! shes meows and trys her hardest to get to where im/I applying/applied the pheromone. pretty funny.

No joke. 2 drops A314, and my kitty drills a hole with her head and purrs, purrs, purrrrrrrrrrrs like a 54 Chevrolet. She is the most pristine, furry example of the “A314 Stalker Effect.”

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**Author:** ![z414a4d](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/z414a4d/32/1299_2.png) [@z414a4d](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/z414a4d)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2007, 2:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/andrews-pheromone-journal/6541/86 "2007-11-19T14:32:34Z")

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I’ve decided today to only wear my IS until I get a reply from APR about my smelly A314 and what they are going to do to resolve this.

I love my IS. Works like a charm…everytime! just a few days into it and the difference is so blatent! (Psst.. Jas, if your reading this, I have the same problem with the Paypal on recent order [about 2 weeks ago, $200+] where the paypal was not claimed. Please help 🙂 )

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**Author:** ![Jonny38](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Jonny38](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jonny38)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2007, 5:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/andrews-pheromone-journal/6541/87 "2007-11-19T17:44:26Z")

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> [@Jasmin](#):
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> No joke. 2 drops A314, and my kitty drills a hole in my hubby’s application points with her head and purrs, purrs, purrrrrrrrrrrs like a 54 Chevrolet. She is the most pristine, furry example of the “A314 Stalker Effect.”

O.k. That explains that one then , I have had cats, especially the female ones, in my street run up to me and rolling over and rubbing the ground .  
Haven’t noticed any difference as far as dogs though .

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**Author:** ![z414a4d](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/z414a4d/32/1299_2.png) [@z414a4d](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/z414a4d)\
**Post date:** [November 19, 2007, 6:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/andrews-pheromone-journal/6541/88 "2007-11-19T18:09:41Z")

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ya, my dog doesint do anything special as far as effects go with A314 either…

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**Author:** ![z414a4d](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/z414a4d/32/1299_2.png) [@z414a4d](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/z414a4d)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2007, 4:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/andrews-pheromone-journal/6541/89 "2007-11-20T04:20:11Z")

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Dear Journal,

Don’t do pot with IS…

Biggest mistake I have made in a while…

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**Author:** ![happytolive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/eb9ed0/32.png) [@happytolive](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/happytolive)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2007, 3:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/andrews-pheromone-journal/6541/90 "2007-11-20T15:18:26Z")

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> [@z414a4d](#):
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> Dear Journal,
> 
> Don’t do pot with IS…
> 
> Biggest mistake I have made in a while…

What happened? Didn’t seem to cause me any problems, but it was like 8 hours after application.

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**Author:** ![z414a4d](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/z414a4d/32/1299_2.png) [@z414a4d](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/z414a4d)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2007, 12:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/andrews-pheromone-journal/6541/91 "2007-11-21T00:38:38Z")

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> [@happytolive](#):
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> What happened? Didn’t seem to cause me any problems, but it was like 8 hours after application.

I had 2 sprays to the chest, 2 to the hair, 2 to the back of the neck and one on each wrist.

I was smoking with 3 other people. It was the same stuff I always get (all my stuff is consistantly the same) and i can confirm this because it was taken out of the same bag as I have had for 2 weeks.

All I can say is, for about an hour, we were (yes, all 3 of us) were completely oblivious to all reality, almost to the point of being completely incoherent. It was ridiculous…Drooling…all of us! Even the girl! If I was capable, I would have gotten a camera. Crazy stuff, woke up today with the worst headache I have ever had (I never get headaches, and when I do, they are mild)…fricken crazy.

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**Author:** ![Special\_K](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/special_k/32/771_2.png) [@Special\_K](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Special_K)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2007, 5:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/andrews-pheromone-journal/6541/92 "2007-11-21T05:25:32Z")

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> [@z414a4d](#):
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> I had 2 sprays to the chest, 2 to the hair, 2 to the back of the neck and one on each wrist.
> 
> I was smoking with 3 other people. It was the same stuff I always get (all my stuff is consistantly the same) and i can confirm this because it was taken out of the same bag as I have had for 2 weeks.
> 
> All I can say is, for about an hour, we were (yes, all 3 of us) were completely oblivious to all reality, almost to the point of being completely incoherent. It was ridiculous…Drooling…all of us! Even the girl! If I was capable, I would have gotten a camera. Crazy stuff, woke up today with the worst headache I have ever had (I never get headaches, and when I do, they are mild)…fricken crazy.

Generally speaking, I’ve found one can often judge the calibre of the previous nights experience by the severity of ones head trauma. That’s just my experience anyway. Sounds like fun to be honest.

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**Author:** ![z414a4d](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/z414a4d/32/1299_2.png) [@z414a4d](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/z414a4d)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2007, 9:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/andrews-pheromone-journal/6541/93 "2007-11-23T21:35:55Z")

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Ok! Finally my first test of TUTH is going to happen tonight! One of my customers (attractive, 19 years old female) came back to the store today asking for my card again with my cell phone number because she lost the previous one. She also had a problem with her car charger (I work in the wireless industry) So i took up this oppurtunity to make my move (Im still professional!). I said “Ok lets head out to your car (she had a friend with her too, smokin hot) and test it out, see why its not working…checking to see if its the the car or the car charger.”

Sure enough it was the car and not the charger, I tried it in my car right next to hers (a smokin hot '07 honda civic coupe). So on the way back into the store, made some small talk alone the lines of, “So what are you girls up to tonight?” I get 2 giggles, “Drinking!” I said, “Hell ya. Where at?” one of the girls said “Not sure yet”.

I then suggested the come hang out with me and my buddy at his place tonight. That said, ya that would be fun. I asked if they smoked pot and they both laughed. So I said “I take that as a yes” And the both nodded.

I should not feel like a perv right? I mean i turned 20 in june and graduated in '06. They are both seniors in High School…Thats still cool…right? No petiphile tendancies here. Just hookin up for the night 😉 I will let you all know how it goes..

By the way, I was wearing 4 shots of IS today at work. made the whole conversation flow wonderfully. What should i wear for my first dosage of TUTH tonight? I got IS, TUTH and A314 (stinky sweaty smelly batch!!). Peace.

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**Author:** ![z414a4d](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/z414a4d/32/1299_2.png) [@z414a4d](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/z414a4d)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2007, 1:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/andrews-pheromone-journal/6541/94 "2007-12-08T01:21:44Z")

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Alrighty. Time for more Journal entries. Yesterday I recieved my BOX of IO, IH, AMMO and IFM. Along with this wonderful box I recieved some MX252, MX263, MX264, MX265, MX266, MX267, MX268, MX269. There are so many products here, I dont know where to start. I think i will start testing out IO / IH / IFM and AMMO alone, get the feel for the effects, and then begin to incorporate the Social / amplifier MX series into the fun. Im pumped.

I am still in the process of figuring out the right level of A314 that fits me best. Thats my primary concern, because my original intention with pheros was to be successful in the workplace. But on the other hand, IS is really fun with marijuana. – please get spaceland back in stock soon!! hehe

What are some signs i should get when i have just the right amount of A314 on in the workplace? (Sales / Management enviornment) Once I get that down i will begin to use IO and IH to see how they work and post my results individually. I will probably begin utilizing the stickie in the female forums that Tisha posted suggesting the best way to post results. Thanks for stopping by 🙂 Im still here everyone 🙂

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**Author:** ![z414a4d](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/z414a4d/32/1299_2.png) [@z414a4d](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/z414a4d)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2007, 2:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/andrews-pheromone-journal/6541/95 "2007-12-08T14:40:22Z")

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Here is a copy of that template that Tisha has stickied in the female forums.. I want to keep on top of these so i can have steady days that i test the products. I kinda cleaned up the example Tisha so its cut and pasteable for me, and anyone else who wants to use it 😉

(Time period of test) of testing (Product), (Product Strength)

**(Scent)**

**(Amount Applied)**

**(Application points)**

**(Enviornment)**

**(Self Effects)**

**(Noticed effects to others)**

**(Noticed Duration of effect)**

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Also, im going to go ahead and post a copy of a PM Tisha sent me (With her permission!) on the end of this post. Its extremely informative information differentiating the Expieremental Test mixes from the putatives ect…

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Hi Andrew

I believe that MX252 is a new release and you wont see it in the store till its launch day. Jasmin is so sweet. She knows how patient so many have been waiting for orders and she often shows her appreciation by throwing in free goodies.

The second set of pheromones you have there are the social pack and the amplifier pack both new and about to be launched. Test them just like you would any new product. If your not sure how check the ladies forum stickies and there is a post that will help you.  
MX263-MX267 are from the social pack. They are new to all of us so I cant really tell you exactly what it will do. I can tell you there is no Androstenone ([Turn Up the Heat – Sensual Pheromone Spray Cologne for Men - Alpha A314](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/)) in them. (as far as I can tell)  
The other one MX268 and MX269 are used to amplify other mixes or at least that is what we are testing them for. Use them alone at first then with another product that you like to use and see if it changes the effect of that product at all.

Its gonna be fun, take your time with it there is no deadline. You can use the socials anywhere really. I got alot on me when I got my package and already love them LOL. Watch for self effects and anything out of the ordinary around you.

Use the amplifiers when you get comfortable with a consumer mix and see if they do anything for you. If they dont do a thing or react different then you expect report that. They want all feedback not just good feedback.

Let the fun begin

**Differences between MX’s and Putatives**

First comes the “experimones”. They are single, raw popular pheromones that most pheromone companies use in different amounts in their products. You will see the T series in that section but those are exclusive to Androtics. These are the popular base products [Androstenone](https://a314.com/product/turn-up-the-heat-tuth/), Androsterone, [est](https://phera.com/), [Alpha Androstenol](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), Beta Androstenol ect…

These are used as a base in most pheromone mixes. They have been tested and proven already.

Then comes the [Putatives](https://a314.com/). They are molocules discovered that are suspected to be related to pheromones or actual pheromones but have not been proven yet. Thats our job. We test them report what we feel and the reactions we get. They compare that to there test studies and get a general idea as to what the product can do. Once in a while we hit a dud but its to be expected.

Experimental test mixes. (MX series) These are made after the the first round of testing comes from the [putatives](https://a314.com/). They will take the experimones and the [putatives](https://a314.com/) and make a new mix they feel will be balanced and work. We will test them out and see how they are.

If the mix works out as planned they move up to pre-release like [Come Talk To Me Mix 2](https://a314.com/product/come-talk-to-me-cttm/). It will stay there for awhile till they are sure that the results are consistant. Once that is done they move on up to consumer product and are guaranteed.

Thats how a consumer product is born

These two links will help alot as well. The spreadsheet (written by Visionary) is from info and reports in the forum.

**[http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pQNd0an1GwdasioEPdlh\_IA](http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pQNd0an1GwdasioEPdlh_IA) ([http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pQNd0an1GwdasioEPdlh\_IA](http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pQNd0an1GwdasioEPdlh_IA))**

**[Ingredients for Androtics Pheromones?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ingredients-for-androtics-pheromones/3304) ([Ingredients for Androtics Pheromones?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/ingredients-for-androtics-pheromones/3304))**

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**Author:** ![z414a4d](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/z414a4d/32/1299_2.png) [@z414a4d](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/z414a4d)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2007, 2:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/andrews-pheromone-journal/6541/96 "2007-12-08T14:46:23Z")

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## I already got a hit on this stuff so Im posting this early and will come and edit it with any further hits i get throughout the day 🙂

1 day of testing Ammunition (First time), Regular Strength

**(Scent)**  
Regular

**(Amount Applied)**  
2 sprays

**(Application points)**  
One spray to throat, one spray to back of neck

**(Enviornment)**  
Work, Business, small retail store, 2-3 employees

**(Self Effects)**  
[8:45am]I Sprayed it on me about 1 hour ago, and can still smell it strong, besides that, other effects (if any) appear to be subtle.

**(Noticed effects to others)**  
[8:45am]20 year old female employee noticed new cologne right away, said it was great! about 15 minutes later she said…“Damn, that really smells good!”

**(Noticed Duration of effect)**  
[8:45am]So far its still just as strong to me as it was during application.

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**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2007, 9:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/andrews-pheromone-journal/6541/97 "2007-12-08T21:36:02Z")

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Hey Andrew, I was just wondering now that you have the “real” a314 have you tried the “moving customers around” bit we talked about? Did it work for you?

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**Author:** ![z414a4d](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/z414a4d/32/1299_2.png) [@z414a4d](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/z414a4d)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2007, 10:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/andrews-pheromone-journal/6541/98 "2007-12-08T22:51:52Z")

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oh word! I completely forgot about that! It does work! you just have to make sure they have eye contact with you and are locked 100% onto what you are talking about. A little head nod and then will follow the direction without thought. Works like a charm…maybe it is 😜 Thanks bud!

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**Author:** ![z414a4d](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/z414a4d/32/1299_2.png) [@z414a4d](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/z414a4d)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2007, 5:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/andrews-pheromone-journal/6541/99 "2007-12-09T17:21:02Z")

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1 night of testing IO, Regular Strength

**(Scent)**  
regular

**(Amount Applied)**  
2 sprays

**(Application points)**  
throat and back of neck

**(Enviornment)**  
laid back family / distant cousins / party

**(Self Effects)**  
I was extremely talkative last night while using those 2 sprays

I smoked all last night, and I found everytime i took a hit I had a massive zone out someone had to shake me out of which is very abnormal. It kind of makes me feel at ease and laid back.

**(Noticed effects to others)**  
Anything I had to say, someone was there to reply reguardless of who I was directing my question/comment to. Lots of hugs.

**(Noticed Duration of effect)**  
about 7 hours.

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**Author:** ![z414a4d](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/z414a4d/32/1299_2.png) [@z414a4d](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/z414a4d)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2007, 5:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/andrews-pheromone-journal/6541/100 "2007-12-09T17:25:48Z")

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1 day of testing IH, regular strength

**(Scent)**  
regular  
**(Amount Applied)**  
2 sprays  
**(Application points)**  
throat and back of neck  
**(Enviornment)**  
Work / business  
**(Self Effects)**  
[11:21am]When i put this on this morning It almost made me get that feel good feeling that IS gives.

When I am talking to my employees I noticed I was not as stern as I can be, and talk to them as if they were friends.

**(Noticed effects to others)**  
[11:21am]one of my employees was talking about something that happened the night before (really wierd, kinda gross – something you would mostly just keep to yourself unless you trusted the person) and was very descriptive..Not too much like his normal self, heh.

**(Noticed Duration of effect)**  
[11:21am] Still going, only had it on for 2 hours, still strong 🙂

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