# Andriotics products content **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 28, 2011, 11:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/andriotics-products-content/53060 "2011-10-28T23:44:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![WesleyLewt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/439d5e/32.png) [@WesleyLewt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WesleyLewt)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2011, 11:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/andriotics-products-content/53060/1 "2011-10-28T23:44:29Z")
Hi. I recently got ‘scent of eros’ from amazon, and have witnessed noticeable effects. I know this is mainly androstenol with some androsterone. This is good for pretty much any setting and far more effective than I expected. I would like something which contains androstenone (and other things aimed at optimising the -none effects), to combine with ‘scent of eros’ (bad name considering what it does) in appropriate situations. But what to get? A314, [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/), TUTH, IJ? I’ve found a lot of marketing speak about all these, but never a breakdown of what they contain and so how they are different. If anyone knows this, or can just describe the differences from experience I’d be grateful. Cheers ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2011, 12:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/andriotics-products-content/53060/2 "2011-10-29T00:16:43Z")
Try reading the store pages for each product - AD provides a reasonably clear breakdown of the primary pheros in each. Well, as far as commercial confidence allows. Look under the “Technical information” heading. Oh and I’ll say now that new posters appearing here and demanding detailed breakdowns of AD products have in the past often turned out to be stooges or trolls from the less reputable competitors, so if you ain’t one of those, I hope you will respect AD’s reasons for keeping a few ingredients up their sleeves. 😉 Also, you may want to repost this or start a new thread in the Intro Forum so you can earn a $25 GC to help offset the cost of trying the products. This thread gives the sort of info they look for and it helps us offer better advice: [https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-qualify-for-a-25-gift-certificate/19934](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-qualify-for-a-25-gift-certificate/19934) This thread may also be useful to you as it contains all the basic info on choosing and using pheros effectively: > [@An Introduction to Mones: Names, Size, Strength, Use, Effects & Duration](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/an-introduction-to-mones-names-size-strength-use-effects-length-of/43003): > > Welcome to an exciting world of [pheromones](https://a314.com/shop/). By joining our community you have taken a HUGE step in progressing a science that is cutting edge and still in its infancy. This community is globally important in recognizing pheromones, and Neuroinfluence Technology ? and their impact on human communication. There are thousands of posts here and thousands more users. Each one of us, including you, adds a unique dynamic to the community from our individual perspectives, experiences and our research an… And do try a search for SOE in Mens - I don’t have a great deal of experience with it but others have posted good info on how they use it in conjunction with a range of products from AD and other quality firms. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2011, 12:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/andriotics-products-content/53060/3 "2011-10-29T00:17:33Z")
> [@WesleyLewt](#): > > Hi. > > I recently got ‘scent of eros’ from amazon, and have witnessed noticeable effects. I know this is mainly androstenol with some androsterone. This is good for pretty much any setting and far more effective than I expected. > > I would like something which contains androstenone (and other things aimed at optimising the -none effects), to combine with ‘scent of eros’ (bad name considering what it does) in appropriate situations. But what to get? A314, Ammo, TUTH, IJ? I’ve found a lot of marketing speak about all these, but never a breakdown of what they contain and so how they are different. If anyone knows this, or can just describe the differences from experience I’d be grateful. > > Cheers If you want something with a very high None content it’s no secret that IJ has about 12mcg per spray. Get that. ---
**Author:** ![WesleyLewt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/439d5e/32.png) [@WesleyLewt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WesleyLewt)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2011, 12:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/andriotics-products-content/53060/4 "2011-10-29T00:51:44Z")
Cheers for the advice 🙂 Will definitely do an intro for the GC. The technical information tends to be along the lines of this much -none and X number of unspecified mones. From what I’ve read here more =/= better when it cones to -none. Will read steves long posts. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2011, 1:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/andriotics-products-content/53060/5 "2011-10-29T01:45:00Z")
No, where none is concerned, more is not always best. The likes of very high none products like IJ will alienate far more people than it attracts but when you do find someone who responds to it, wow! It can also trigger aggression in guys and you may find yourself being challenged to fights etc. This is entirely due to it having five times the none content of TUTH & Ammo, plus entirely different steering molecules. Some situations will let you use strong none/very overt sexual or sexual/status mixes eg clubs, parties, dancing, drinking but other situations call for much less eg work, class, meeting new people, dinner genteel socialising. Which is where more social mones like SOE or status mixes like A314 come into their own. You need to stimulate a lot more feelings than just horny with none to promote full-on attraction in a woman. Get that wrong or be incongruent with the pheros and you get ghosted, ignored, taken as creepy, aggressive or just too horny for your own good. Then there is the matter of age - a womans none tolerance increases with age, so a younger woman (teens-mid 20s) is very likely to respond well to a much lower dose compared to an older one (30s-up). There are odd exceptions of course & again, your behaviours and natural phero levels are a vital concurrent factor. you need to find what works best for you. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2011, 8:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/andriotics-products-content/53060/6 "2011-10-29T08:50:55Z")
More does not equal better with any mones. The most effective dosage varies for each individual. All of our physiology’s are different. Its always best to start with a relatively low dosage and work up. That’s why so many mixes out there that claim to have 20 times the mones of there competitors are crap. It proves they dont know the first thing about mones and more often backfires. That being said SOE is a great product. It is primarily anol and anone. Something similar but containing anone would be AMMO which is a combo of anone anol and arone at 2.5 mcgs each per spray. If your under 30 that should be more then enough at about 2 to 4 sprays to kick up the mix to sexy. TUTH has 2.5 mcg of anone per spray but also has something like 11 other putatives that push it more into the sexual realm. Best used for one on one situation where comfort has already been established or in sexual atmospheres. Dates, relationships, clubs, bars, parties. This is not to say it cant be used elsewhere just what environment it works best in. IJ is pretty much a overdose of anone. Thats what gives the jerk vibe. I believe its around 7.5 mcg per spray or better but I dont have my notes in front of me so it may be more. To much anone can annoy and women and make them bitchy. It can also make other males more combative. A314 has very little anone and is primarily arone with 17 or so other putatives to ramp up its power. There are other anone MX’s but no real info on how much they contain or whats mixed with them as they are in testing still. Hope that help you decide. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2011, 9:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/andriotics-products-content/53060/7 "2011-10-29T09:41:46Z")
Tisha - IJ is approx 12.5mcg of none per spray. Out of approx 17mcg total with the steering molecules. Which IMO are not entrely aimed at attraction, more to emulate aspects of an overall assertive and abrasive personality. If the OP is wanting mones for attraction, I’d tend towards TUTH moderated with a fair bit of SOE as being nearest to what he asks for. As ammo is already very balanced, SOE with that may be too soft, for all but the youngest maybe? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2011, 10:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/andriotics-products-content/53060/8 "2011-10-29T10:28:46Z")
> [@](#): > > Tisha - [IJ](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/) is approx 12.5mcg of none per spray. Out of approx 17mcg total with the steering molecules. Thank you, as I mentioned, I didnt have my notes in front of me and its early here so I am to lazy to dig it up 😃 I knew it was pretty high. Its hard to remember whats in every product for several different companies off the top of my head without checking the cheat sheet 😉 I agree IJ is not entirely about attraction. Its more about sending a certain vibe or message about your personality. Now in certain instances that vibe can prove be attractive but usually its more attention grabbing sort of like looking at a car wreck on the side of the road. Fascinating but you dont want to be involved with it. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![WesleyLewt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/439d5e/32.png) [@WesleyLewt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WesleyLewt)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2011, 4:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/andriotics-products-content/53060/9 "2011-10-29T16:04:27Z")
Cheers tish and mobo. Seeing as I already have scent of eros and I’m a poor student, it seems like I’m waiting for TUTH to be back in stock so I can have the widest range of effects with 2 products to mix as appropriate. On an unrelated note, why is the A314 section locked? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2011, 4:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/andriotics-products-content/53060/10 "2011-10-29T16:13:33Z")
Reserved for users of the A314 oil. So we can discuss things like its application in work/commercial situations without it being widely searchable and open to prying/competitors eyes. If you ever get the stuff, just send Steve a PM for access. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2011, 7:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/andriotics-products-content/53060/11 "2011-10-29T19:39:13Z")
You guys all are right when you say more =/= better. Thats why there are so many other ‘steering’ molecules, which separates our -none-based formulas from each other.