# Androstadienone 1 and NPA

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-1-and-npa/54927>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [March 14, 2012, 2:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-1-and-npa/54927 "2012-03-14T14:13:45Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![bestintel](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bestintel/32/1883_2.png) [@bestintel](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bestintel)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2012, 10:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-1-and-npa/54927/21 "2012-03-15T22:22:46Z")

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> [@stuttgart-man](#):
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> You have made a very good decision with ordering NPA and A1! NPA and A1 mixed together works very great, at least with me.
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> I have mixed 0.6 ml NPA, 0.4 ml A1 with 2.5 ml CoolWater in a 5ml-atomizer (0.125ml / Spray). One spray provides me about 5.15 mcg None from the NPA + 5.15 mcg Secret ingredient + 14.3 mcg A1.
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> Usually I have applied 2 Sprays on my shirt (to prevent that the A1 converts into Nol and None).
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> And the hits were and are GREAT!!! 😃

Think about trying out this mix but I don’t have NPA would the edge work?

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 2:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-1-and-npa/54927/22 "2012-03-16T02:14:54Z")

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> [@bestintel](#):
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> Think about trying out this mix but I don’t have NPA would the edge work?

Edge and NPA are identical.

Edge is just NPA diluted 1:5 in Lacroy’s own fragrance.

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2012, 3:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-1-and-npa/54927/23 "2012-03-16T03:43:14Z")

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> [@illmatic90](#):
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> What would be some good buffers for NPA and A1? also anyone try any good combos with them in separate mixes? just need a lil help to get me an idea

All the socials are good buffers for NPA, and TAC. My personal favourites would be IS/IH in combo and TAC.

A1 is an excellent buffer by itself - Further buffering A1 on its own with socials would be like creating “Instant Friendzone” - It does need even a small amount of none or something arousing in order to keep it effective.

NPA goes very well with a lot of pheros/mixes - you should search out some of the past threads, which have lots of useful info.

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**Author:** ![illmatic90](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@illmatic90](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/illmatic90)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 1:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-1-and-npa/54927/24 "2012-03-17T01:00:14Z")

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Quick question.. monday im planning to wear 1 sprays Ammo togo, 2 sprays IG togo, 1 sprays IO 2x togo, 2 sprays IH togo, 2 sprays of IS togo, and 3 sprays of P83 30ml @5mcg to college.. Is that too much mones or sprays? I also have IJ 1x togo, TUTH @2.5mcg togo, A314 1.29A togo, P74 30ml @5mcg, P75 30ml @2.5mcg, [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/), MX441, MX443, and MX445 if any of these would be good switch in for or just added. Im trying to get the attention of mainly hispanic and white women at the college.. Help me come up with a good combo please.. AMMO + IS+ IO didnt work that good for me ☹  
Help me 😕

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 4:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-1-and-npa/54927/25 "2012-03-17T16:49:17Z")

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That seems far too complex and confusing a phero signal to me. As well as total obliteration for the none in the [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/).

Maybe think about cutting it right down to three, maybe a **maximum** of four products to begin with - eg Ammo, **one** social, IS and maybe the P83 - although I’m not convinced of its value in a college environment, unless you are on a course where you get a lot of physical interaction?

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**Author:** ![illmatic90](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@illmatic90](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/illmatic90)\
**Post date:** [March 17, 2012, 9:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-1-and-npa/54927/26 "2012-03-17T21:04:33Z")

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> [@mobocaster](#):
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> That seems far too complex and confusing a phero signal to me. As well as total obliteration for the none in the Ammo.
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> Maybe think about cutting it right down to three, maybe a **maximum** of four products to begin with - eg Ammo, **one** social, IS and maybe the P83 - although I’m not convinced of its value in a college environment, unless you are on a course where you get a lot of physical interaction?

What about 1 Ammo- under shirt, 2 IG- to neck, 2 IO- to wrist, 4 IS- to wrist and back of hands, and 15 mcg P83- to forearms?

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2012, 9:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-1-and-npa/54927/27 "2012-03-18T09:03:03Z")

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That sounds a better and more directed mix - Sexy, social, happy and approachable with good status.

However, we really can’t say how many sprays you need as that depends on your body chemistry and individual mone signature. You have to do the work to find your sweet spots with each.

Saying that, I’d have no problem with that as a starter but considering the IO, IG and IS are all good moderators, I would probably have the Ammo more forward and exposed to the air as it is already pretty well balanced.

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**Author:** ![illmatic90](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@illmatic90](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/illmatic90)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2012, 5:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-1-and-npa/54927/28 "2012-03-18T17:55:21Z")

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> [@mobocaster](#):
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> That sounds a better and more directed mix - Sexy, social, happy and approachable with good status.
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> However, we really can’t say how many sprays you need as that depends on your body chemistry and individual mone signature. You have to do the work to find your sweet spots with each.
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> Saying that, I’d have no problem with that as a starter but considering the IO, IG and IS are all good moderators, I would probably have the Ammo more forward and exposed to the air as it is already pretty well balanced.

i was thinking about just using the Chick magnet II(2 IG, 2 IO, and 12.5mcg P83) by CoolKat but i didnt want to confuse people since i been using Ammo for the last 2 weeks so i put that in there too. My sweet spot with ammo is 1-2 sprays, IO is 2 sprays , and IS is 4 sprays. So i should move ammo to my neck? Would i be OD’ing with all of those mones? Or should i just stick to the Chick magnet II and try that first before i add things?

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**Author:** ![illmatic90](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@illmatic90](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/illmatic90)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2012, 9:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-1-and-npa/54927/29 "2012-03-18T21:11:08Z")

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what ratio would you recommend me to dilute the A1 to according to my age start off with? Im thinking about 12.5 per spray.. Would that be to lil or too much?

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**Author:** ![M\_M](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@M\_M](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/M_M)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2012, 9:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-1-and-npa/54927/30 "2012-03-18T21:40:07Z")

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> [@mobocaster](#):
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> Aso remember that **Bruce at LS has stated that A1 is already in NPA** and other Lacroy products but he has never given a hint at proportion/amount.

Did he really, or is this a typo, Mob!?!?? 😮

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2012, 2:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-1-and-npa/54927/31 "2012-03-19T02:34:38Z")

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> [@M\_M](#):
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> Did he really, or is this a typo, Mob!?!?? 😮

Yup he has - The thread concerned is currently about a third the way down page 2 of their Phero Discussion forum. 🙂

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2012, 2:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-1-and-npa/54927/32 "2012-03-19T02:46:06Z")

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> [@illmatic90](#):
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> what ratio would you recommend me to dilute the A1 to according to my age start off with? Im thinking about 12.5 per spray.. Would that be to lil or too much?

That would be a good start - You can easily build-up to a higher dose if needed.

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