# Androstadienone 1 and NPA **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 14, 2012, 2:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-1-and-npa/54927 "2012-03-14T14:13:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 2
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2012, 2:29pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-1-and-npa/54927/2 "2012-03-14T14:29:26Z")
Yes on both counts - the only difference between the NPAs is volume - the 15ml is the more cost effective. Also the “half strength” A1 from LS is actually the same strength but in a 5ml quantity. Aso remember that Bruce at LS has stated that A1 is already in NPA and other Lacroy products but he has never given a hint at proportion/amount. Yes, diluting both of them is best - The NPA dropper is in no way accurate and you do risk rampant OD/smelly problems by using it straight, it is also pretty poor diffusion from a drop application. Mixing with a moderate strength cologne is the best way IME. Lighter colognes (eg CK Eternity) will only provide effective cover for the lowest dilutions. As to what to use - This is where you need to do some testing yourself - “Standard” dilution NPA is 1ml NPA plus 5ml cologne but at my age I’ve used all sorts of doses and had results with 1+4, 1.5+3.5 and 1.75+3.25 in differing strength colognes and with different numbers of sprays. These days I mainly use 1+4 in moderate cologne and 1.5+3.5 in a pretty potent one. There are good threads various tactics for using NPA here already. As a younger guy, you may want to go lower still but that’s up to you. Much of the above holds true for A1 and initially anyway, you might want to mix that in a separate togo until you find the dose/proportion that works for you. If you have not already read K-Trains excellent A1 guide, I suggest you do so now - it contains all you need to know. 🙂 > [@Androstadienone Guide](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668): > > I’ve been thinking about doing this for the longest time but recent events have finally pushed me to do this. In an effort to cut down on the repeated questions, but at the same time encourage more result oriented posts I am making this A-1 guide. Please remember I am NOT a scientist, but merely a tester who is reporting what he’s seen and also info gathered from other fellow members. Table of Contents Section 1: What is A-1? Section 2: What are the effects of A-1? Section 3: When is the bes… Also the A1 Mix Repository: > [@The A1 Mix Repository](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-a1-mix-repository/42465): > > I saw the thread [Mx297 mix respitory](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/mx297-mix-respitory/39239) and concluded it is very wise to have a thread to discuss one certain product in relation to and mixed with other products. Ofcourse we must not forget K-Train also has an excellent guide out: [Androstadienone Guide](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668) Currently I have a bottle of 10ml Androstadienone on the way and I am very curious as to how that [pheromone](https://a314.com/) will work out for me. Androstenone doesn’t seem to work for, or I am doing something wrong with it. Androsterone does seem to work for me,… Measuring pipettes are usually sold at pharmacies and if you don’t fancy paying a dollar a pop from AD, you can get a box of a hundred for 5-6 dollars on Ebay. Similarly, if you don’t have any togos, Sephora atomisers are excellent and can be got at most good perfume shops - Their spray volume is known and a few minutes on search here will turn that up. --- _[View the full topic](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-1-and-npa/54927)._