# Androstadienone Guide **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 11, 2010, 8:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668 "2010-04-11T20:21:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![giants52000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/958977/32.png) [@giants52000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/giants52000)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 12:49am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/41 "2010-09-14T00:49:36Z")
> [@K-Train](#): > > Section 3: When is the best time to use A-1? > > Although A-1 can be worn at pretty much anytime, the BEST time to see its effects are when a woman is on her period. The effects during this time are usually outstanding, and an immediate mood boost is usually the result. > > Also, A-1 is a great phero to wear on first dates (or any date really) or when you know you’ll have some one-on-one time with a lady. I personally take A-1 with me wherever I go just in case I run into a PMSing woman. > > A-1 can also be used as a buffer in heavy androstenone mixes although be warned that wearing androstenone during a women’s period can still irritate her. > > **TIP:** > > In the case of A-1, “still water runs deep”, meaning that even if you feel like nothing is happening, there can be very strong effects bubbling underneath the surface of the woman you’re around. > > Section 4: How much do I need and how do I make it? > > The recommended dosage of A-1 is 15-50mcgs although there have been cases where users have gone over this amount. It has been documented that going higher than the recommended dosage only increase the like hood of depression while the results on women were equal to that of lower dosages. > > **MAKING A-1** : I usually go to Love-scent (do a Google search) and buy it from there. > > After you have your A-1 from Love-scent there are 3 things you can do. The 1st is dilute it in a to-go bottle (explained below), you can dilute it in a 30ml bottle (explained below) or you can just wear it straight from the dropper from LS. ( there are about 40-45mcgs of A-1 per drop) > > Diluting the A-1 into a to-go bottle. (HIGHLY RECOMMENDED) > > To dilute buy some Perfumer’s Alcohol ¶ from Androtics (6% or 20% strength) and pour it into the to-go bottle. Then, pour in your A-1. (I recommend buying pipettes from Androtics, they’re only 1 dollar each.) Alternatively, you can use your own cologne and just use it as a PA replacement in the formulas below. > > MIXING RATIOS FOR TO-GO BOTTLES (also note that a full to-go bottle yields 40 sprays) > > 0.5ml A-1 + 4.5ml PA = 12.5mcgs per spray > 0.6ml A-1 + 4.4ml PA = 15mcgs per spray > 1ml A-1 + 4ml PA = 25mcgs per spray > 2ml A-1 + 3ml PA = 50mcgs per pray > > I’m leaving it at this because anymore than 50mcgs per spray is just a waste. I personally would use the 25mcgs because it insures you’ll only need one or 2 sprays at the most. > > MIXING RATIO FOR 30ml BOTTLES (a full 30ml bottle yields 200 sprays) > > 1ml A-1 + 29ml PA = 5mcgs per spray > 2ml A-1 + 28ml PA = 10mcgs per spray > 3ml A-1 + 27ml PA = 15mcgs per spray > 4ml A-1 + 26ml PA = 20mcgs per spray > 5ml A-1 + 25ml PA = 25mcgs per spray > 6ml A-1 + 24ml PA = 30mcgs per spray > 7ml A-1 + 23ml PA = 35mcgs per spray > 8ml A-1 + 22ml PA = 40mcgs per spray > 9ml A-1 + 21ml PA = 45mcgs per spray > 10ml A-1 + 20ml PA = 50mcgs per spray Are these ratios for LS full strength or half strength? If half strength, what would be the some ratios for a togo bottle? Is the half strength 20-22 mcg per spray? For 25 mcg per spray in a togo would I mix 2 parts A1 to 3 parts alcohol? New to mixing… Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 1:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/42 "2010-09-14T01:55:16Z")
> [@giants52000](#): > > Are these ratios for LS full strength or half strength? If half strength, what would be the some ratios for a togo bottle? Is the half strength 20-22 mcg per spray? > For 25 mcg per spray in a togo would I mix 2 parts A1 to 3 parts alcohol? New to mixing… > > Thanks! All half strength is that its 5ml’s instead of 10ml’s ---
**Author:** ![giants52000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/958977/32.png) [@giants52000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/giants52000)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 2:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/43 "2010-09-14T02:32:01Z")
Thanks! Well that’s pretty misleading. The bottle is half the size. The strength is the same. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 2:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/44 "2010-09-14T02:41:26Z")
> [@giants52000](#): > > Thanks! > > Well that’s pretty misleading. The bottle is half the size. The strength is the same. Yeah, I thought the same as you till happytappin and K-Train told me ---
**Author:** ![giants52000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/958977/32.png) [@giants52000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/giants52000)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 2:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/45 "2010-09-14T02:43:35Z")
Wait I just read this post here: [What's Half Strength A1](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/whats-half-strength-a1/39176) “Half strength is what you thought it was. 5000 mcgs in 10 mL rather than 10000 which is the full version.” This implies that both bottles are 10 mL… ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 2:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/46 "2010-09-14T02:46:29Z")
But when I spoke to happy about it, he said it was 5000mcgs in a 5ml, I gotta ask him again. I always thought it was that way ---
**Author:** ![giants52000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/958977/32.png) [@giants52000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/giants52000)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 2:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/47 "2010-09-14T02:50:29Z")
Nevermind…I posted the question in the appropriate forum..awaiting for answer there… ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 2:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/48 "2010-09-14T02:51:46Z")
Yeah let me know please I’m confused now. ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 2:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/49 "2010-09-14T02:56:21Z")
It’s 5000mcgs in a 5ml bottle which equals out to the same strength as 10,000mgs in the 10ml bottle. The only reason they have the different “strengths” is because people wanted a cheaper A1 solution so they split it into 5ml and 10ml with the 5ml one being for those (like me 😛) who don’t have the money for the full strength version. There isn’t any difference from what I’ve been told and what has been reported. The only difference is if you get half strength you’re getting 5ml of A1 instead of 10ml.😉 ---
**Author:** ![giants52000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/958977/32.png) [@giants52000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/giants52000)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 3:06am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/50 "2010-09-14T03:06:43Z")
OK. The meaning of “stength” is what was confusing me. Strength in this context means the AMOUNT of mcgs in the bottle. Strength DOES NOT mean the concentration. The concentration IS THE SAME. It’s just a bit confusing to me. It’s like saying, IH 2X in a ToGo is half the strength as IH 2X in a 30 mL. No, they are both 2X in concentration. One spray is not stronger than the other. You just get less sprays. That’s all. ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 3:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/51 "2010-09-14T03:10:01Z")
> [@giants52000](#): > > OK. The meaning of “stength” is what was confusing me. > > Strength in this context means the AMOUNT of mcgs in the bottle. > > Strength DOES NOT mean the concentration. The concentration IS THE SAME. > > It’s just a bit confusing to me. It’s like saying, IH 2X in a ToGo is half the strength as IH 2X in a 30 mL. No, they are both 2X in concentration. One spray is not stronger than the other. You just get less sprays. That’s all. Precisely. It is very confusing. I really think they need to rename it or something because the word “strength” carries a specific meaning in the scientific community and the way they’re using it at Love-scent can throw you for a loop. ---
**Author:** ![Morphious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce73a5/32.png) [@Morphious](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Morphious)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2010, 8:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/52 "2010-09-27T20:26:58Z")
> [@stevios](#): > > Yeah, see that’s what I was thinking. > > Without going into the math that got me 1ml = 25mcg (you’ve already got that covered) my logic was this: > > Heavy Ammo (that’s what I’m using) = 3000mcg in 30ml, so 1000mcg in 10ml, or 100mcg per ml > > 4ml of Heavy Ammo therefore = 400mcg (133mcg of each of the mones). > > Put in 1ml of A1 on top of 4ml Heavy Ammo = 1400mcg overall in the To Go with 2.5 times the A1 to the Heavy Ammo. > > 1400mcgs at 40 sprays = 35mcg per spray…so 25mcg of A1, and 10mcg of Heavy Ammo per spray (3.3mcg of each of the mones in Heavy Ammo). > > What do you guys think? Does that make sense? OK forgive me because I am trying to figure the math here. 1ml A1 = 25mcg 4ml of H Ammo = 400mcg Then how did you come up with 1400mcg by combining 1ml A1 + 4ml H.Ammo in a to-go bottle? ---
**Author:** ![TheBoogieMan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/theboogieman/32/1136_2.png) [@TheBoogieMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheBoogieMan)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 4:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/53 "2010-10-05T04:55:17Z")
I was confused about the strength thing too but fortunately it’s already been answered here so I don’t have to ask. I’ll bump the thread though because it’s so informative. ---
**Author:** ![Bolkie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bolkie/32/1056_2.png) [@Bolkie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bolkie)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 8:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/54 "2010-10-06T20:51:51Z")
I have some A1 on the way and I really have a question. This has probably been answered in one of the numerous A1 threads, but this is the ‘guide’ so here goes: Is A1 used on specific ‘targets’ only? E.g. to attract a girl you already know or when you know you will be together with a woman of whom you know she will have pms issues ? Or does this also work for (general) attraction in a mix when you go out or something? Like Ammo and -none products, which you mix to ‘pick up’ ? ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 11:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/55 "2010-10-06T23:19:34Z")
> [@Bolkie](#): > > I have some A1 on the way and I really have a question. This has probably been answered in one of the numerous A1 threads, but this is the ‘guide’ so here goes: > > Is A1 used on specific ‘targets’ only? E.g. to attract a girl you already know or when you know you will be together with a woman of whom you know she will have pms issues ? > > Or does this also work for (general) attraction in a mix when you go out or something? Like Ammo and -none products, which you mix to ‘pick up’ ? All of the above. I chose it for a specific target, but have noticed the effects it is having on other women around me and since I work with a lot of women I use it often and have gone through a bottle quicker than I expected to. ---
**Author:** ![Bolkie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bolkie/32/1056_2.png) [@Bolkie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bolkie)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 10:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/56 "2010-10-07T22:06:55Z")
Thanks Gent ! Another question guys: A1 works just like any other mones? As in: the woman identifies her relaxed or happy state as coming from the wearer’s presence? It would be awesome if a woman actually attaches a more pleasant state of mind with being around the wearer (in this case me ofcourse) and as a result wants to spend more time with the wearer. This would work on an unconscious level ofcourse, like subliminally beaming happiness into her mind, just by being present. ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 10:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/57 "2010-10-07T22:27:38Z")
> [@Bolkie](#): > > Thanks Gent ! > > Another question guys: > > A1 works just like any other mones? As in: the woman identifies her relaxed or happy state as coming from the wearer’s presence? It would be awesome if a woman actually attaches a more pleasant state of mind with being around the wearer (in this case me ofcourse) and as a result wants to spend more time with the wearer. This would work on an unconscious level ofcourse, like subliminally beaming happiness into her mind, just by being present. Yeah it works in a very similar way as all the others. It is good stuff, if you have a special someone you’re trying to get closer too, you’ll definitely notice the change. ---
**Author:** ![Bolkie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bolkie/32/1056_2.png) [@Bolkie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bolkie)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 9:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/58 "2010-10-09T09:34:24Z")
I feel I do not have the ‘authority’ to do this. But could any of you more senior/experienced member start a thread like “A-1 Mix Repository” ? There is a thread around here which is a mix repository for mx297. It rocks. I believe A-1 deserves such a thread even more. ---
**Author:** ![thegentleman](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/thegentleman/32/1770_2.png) [@thegentleman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/thegentleman)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 12:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/59 "2010-10-09T12:39:37Z")
> [@Bolkie](#): > > I feel I do not have the ‘authority’ to do this. But could any of you more senior/experienced member start a thread like “A-1 Mix Repository” ? There is a thread around here which is a mix repository for mx297. It rocks. I believe A-1 deserves such a thread even more. Hmm… that would be interesting. I’m real fond of A314 + A1 + IH. I am testing per Reclipse’ suggestion A1 paired with P96 but also wearing IG and MX390 with it and will post results later on tonight. I think K-Train really likes A314 + A1. I think A314 and A1 are a really good start to building that fallout mix. They are definitely the foundation. ---
**Author:** ![Bolkie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bolkie/32/1056_2.png) [@Bolkie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bolkie)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 3:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/60 "2010-10-09T15:25:42Z")
Cool. I will make the thread anyway. I am pretty sure people are interested, and if not, then not 😛 > [@thegentleman](#): > > Hmm… that would be interesting. > > I’m real fond of A314 + A1 + IH. I am testing per Reclipse’ suggestion A1 paired with P96 but also wearing IG and MX390 with it and will post results later on tonight. > > I think K-Train really likes A314 + A1. > > I think A314 and A1 are a really good start to building that fallout mix. They are definitely the foundation. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668.md?page=2) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668.md?page=4)