# Androstadienone Guide **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 11, 2010, 8:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668 "2010-04-11T20:21:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![delocc](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/delocc/32/1200_2.png) [@delocc](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/delocc)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2011, 10:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/121 "2011-11-07T22:55:55Z")
> [@DotCom](#): > > The best way to do this is buy a pipette (they sell some here at AD for like a dollar each), and follow the guide. A1 is A1, so as long as the concentration is the same, it shouldnt matter where you bought it from. LS is 10mg/10ml. If the sample you bought was 5mg/10ml, then just add twice the A1 per mixture and you will get the same thing in the end > [@Dracon](#): > > I have also made an order with Liquid Alchemy. What I don’t know is how do I use their A1? Do I put a drop on my fingertip and then apply it to the back of my neck like A314 or do I mix it with one of my to go bottles? A1 from Alchemy Labs comes in a bottle with a pipette already attached to the top. I apply to my wrists, or chest if I think close contact will be going on. Smell could definitely be improved by combining it wil an EO or cover scent. ---
**Author:** ![21wq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/ccd318/32.png) [@21wq](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/21wq)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2011, 1:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/122 "2011-12-02T01:59:39Z")
> [@K-Train](#): > > Diluting the A-1 into a to-go bottle. (HIGHLY RECOMMENDED) > > To dilute buy some Perfumer’s Alcohol ¶ from Androtics (6% or 20% strength) and pour it into the to-go bottle. I think I’m finally starting to understand this guide. Thanks for posting. I looked at the [Mixing Supplies section](https://a314.com/) on AD. I couldn’t find any PA listing. Then I found that it’s an option when buying the [30mL bottle](https://pheromonelabs.com/). However, I don’t see any such option for a To-Go bottle. I assume I would have to buy a 30ml _ **and** _ an empty To-Go. Correct? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [December 2, 2011, 9:16am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/123 "2011-12-02T09:16:58Z")
Or simply reuse an empty togo if you already have one. ---
**Author:** ![prabo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8797f3/32.png) [@prabo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/prabo)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2011, 1:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/124 "2011-12-13T13:23:36Z")
2 A1 + 1 ammo + 1 IS Gr8 combo for Work. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![tustinbarrile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tustinbarrile](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tustinbarrile)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2012, 8:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/125 "2012-02-07T20:05:44Z")
is MX413 effective or is it just a poor imitation? ---
**Author:** ![Turbo2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/cab0a1/32.png) [@Turbo2](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Turbo2)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 5:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/126 "2012-07-20T05:19:32Z")
Would a1 mix ok with IS? ---
**Author:** ![unknown0001](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/unknown0001/32/559_2.png) [@unknown0001](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unknown0001)\ **Post date:** [July 20, 2012, 5:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/127 "2012-07-20T05:24:44Z")
> [@giantb](#): > > Would a1 mix ok with IS? YES! IS goes very well with almost anything In my experience!😃 ---
**Author:** ![tommarty920](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tommarty920/32/1273_2.png) [@tommarty920](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tommarty920)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2012, 8:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/128 "2012-10-01T20:48:45Z")
Anyone ever try A1 and Spaceland? Gonna get some A1 and some empty To-Go bottles and experiment with some different combos. Still got a big bottle of Spaceland so I might as well see what happens. Would be interesting to see how those effects come together. ---
**Author:** ![johnny360](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f17d59/32.png) [@johnny360](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/johnny360)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2012, 7:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/129 "2012-10-02T19:18:53Z")
Trying to view A1 in the market, keep getting access denied. ---
**Author:** ![rohitiyer10](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ad7895/32.png) [@rohitiyer10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rohitiyer10)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2012, 7:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/130 "2012-10-02T19:46:34Z")
> [@johnny360](#): > > Trying to view A1 in the market, keep getting access denied. Not sold here… check Love Scent or Alchemy Labs ---
**Author:** ![tommarty920](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tommarty920/32/1273_2.png) [@tommarty920](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tommarty920)\ **Post date:** [October 2, 2012, 9:15pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/131 "2012-10-02T21:15:51Z")
> [@rohitiyer10](#): > > Not sold here… check Love Scent or Alchemy Labs Or go for the MX412-413 pack. Haven’t heard a lot about it but from what I gather it’s a reasonable alternative. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 12:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/132 "2012-10-12T12:24:31Z")
> [@tommarty920](#): > > Or go for the MX412-413 pack. Haven’t heard a lot about it but from what I gather it’s a reasonable alternative. Negatory ---
**Author:** ![tommarty920](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tommarty920/32/1273_2.png) [@tommarty920](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tommarty920)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 8:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/133 "2012-10-12T20:55:54Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > Negatory No? Guess I’ll have to just have to stick with the A1 from LS ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2012, 8:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/134 "2012-10-13T08:29:02Z")
> [@tommarty920](#): > > Or go for the MX412-413 pack. Haven’t heard a lot about it but from what I gather it’s a reasonable alternative. Dude, it is all about Dwight. Forget Kobe, lol. Go Lakers! ---
**Author:** ![alexjustdoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alexjustdoit/32/5176_2.png) [@alexjustdoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alexjustdoit)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2012, 4:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/135 "2012-10-13T16:14:09Z")
Great thread! I have a question though. I’ve never used A-1 so I don’t know my sweet spot yet. I want to mix it in a 30 ml bottle, but I don’t know what dosage to measure it out to. If it had no scent, i’d make it 10mcgs per spray, and sweet spot test it that way, but I really don’t want to be smelling so strongly. Can anyone suggest a good starting dose to test for sweet spot with, that won’t have me using so many sprays that I smell really strong, but won’t require me to test with half sprays because it’s too many mcgs? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2012, 4:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/136 "2012-10-13T16:30:23Z")
I’d say 10-15 mcg is a good starting dose to mix. However, if you get the negative effects, I found it helped to get myself used to A1 by mixing a 6.25mcg dose and wearing one spray at a time with that, washing it off whenever the downers kicked-in, waiting an hour or two, then applying again till the next time it hit. After about two weeks, my system had got used to it and I could wear pretty much any dose I liked. An added bonus was that wearing A1 alone at that dose still got me surprising hits and I had a much better idea about how it worked by the end of that 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![alexjustdoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alexjustdoit/32/5176_2.png) [@alexjustdoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alexjustdoit)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2012, 4:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/137 "2012-10-13T16:31:30Z")
I might just do the exact same thing then, and order an empty to-go as well as the 30ml. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2012, 4:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/138 "2012-10-13T16:36:58Z")
Yup - I keep my A1 mixing to togos - Never really felt the need to mix a 30 ml as one or two sprays at 15mcg is all I usually need in a mix. More than that tends to be too much for other components, unless IJ-style amounts of none are involved. ---
**Author:** ![alexjustdoit](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/alexjustdoit/32/5176_2.png) [@alexjustdoit](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/alexjustdoit)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2012, 4:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/139 "2012-10-13T16:39:57Z")
Well for me mainly I would rather have a 30ml so I wouldnt have to keep ordering to-gos. And I don’t have any PA on hand, so I couldnt just reuse that same to-go. I suppose I could order multiple to-gos. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2012, 4:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/140 "2012-10-13T16:50:57Z")
I just clean and reuse AD togos and PA is virtually unobtainable in the UK, so I use cologne. The measuring pipettes I get from work but they can be got here or in big boxes off Ebay. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668.md?page=6) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668.md?page=8)