# Androstadienone Guide **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [April 11, 2010, 8:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668 "2010-04-11T20:21:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![coinman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/65b543/32.png) [@coinman](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/coinman)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2013, 3:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/161 "2013-11-12T15:18:00Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > For time fixing, its just a few drops, OTOH around 5 in a togo and up to 20 in a 30ml. But it also depends on the other molecules in the mix as too much will hamper them, > > Some past threads on mixing with DPG but if you use cologne, it will usually have enough diffusion regulation already. PA will need scenting anyway. I ordered 4 30ml bottles - one with PA and one with DPG and 2 empty ones to do my own mixes. It’s primarily for the A1 in a sprayer. I planned to add 1 drop of neroli EO to the mix. I have an extensive collection of EO that I use to make my own massage oils. (They all seem to love a good massage 😃) My concern was with the ratio of PA to DPG. ---
**Author:** ![leon333](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leon333/32/539_2.png) [@leon333](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/leon333)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 10:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/162 "2013-11-14T10:30:03Z")
diluted A1 in alcohol only last for 2-6 hrs? I thought A1 is a sticky pheromone 😕 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2013, 11:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/163 "2013-11-14T11:40:42Z")
If the conditions are good, yes A1 in alcohol will go to six hours or more but it is still very badly prone to sudden breakdown if things get too warm or sweaty within that period. Alcohol with DPG in the mix will not make much difference and the only way to regulate that better is to make an oil. ---
**Author:** ![leon333](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/leon333/32/539_2.png) [@leon333](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/leon333)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 6:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/164 "2013-11-15T06:47:16Z")
abit off topic but alpha androstenol in oil is the better way to control breakdown and conversion right? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2013, 3:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/165 "2013-11-15T15:16:04Z")
Not really - I’ve done plenty mixes with anol and other pheros - Only to have them ruined entirely when the A1 degrades. For that reason, I tend to apply my A1 apart from any other pheros so I can wash and reapply when it turns to stink, without wrecking the rest of the mix. Otherwise, anol does complement some properties of A1 very well and has useful mood/social properties alongside it. ---
**Author:** ![Darkman84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b38774/32.png) [@Darkman84](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Darkman84)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2014, 12:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/166 "2014-02-17T12:11:50Z")
Good thread, very informative…thanks to K-Train for the hard work and mobcaster for a bunch of advice. ---
**Author:** ![doctor-olli](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/77aa72/32.png) [@doctor-olli](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/doctor-olli)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2014, 6:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/167 "2014-11-06T18:26:22Z")
Is the parfume ‘certo’ a A-1 pheroparfume? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2014, 10:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/168 "2014-11-06T22:44:43Z")
> [@doctor-olli](#): > > Is the parfume ‘certo’ a A-1 pheroparfume? Certo is not an AD product so any discussion will have to be kept very brief - but reading the ingredient list on its own website is the best way to answer that. ---
**Author:** ![sam\_rochester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e95f7d/32.png) [@sam\_rochester](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sam_rochester)\ **Post date:** [November 14, 2015, 10:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/169 "2015-11-14T22:52:55Z")
so if someone tends to sweat easily should they apply A1 to cloths? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2015, 11:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/170 "2015-11-15T23:51:42Z")
No, I would avoid applying mones to clothing for a number of reasons. Seek-out the least sweat-prone points and use them instead and look to help slow berakdown by using a good quality lotion on them. ---
**Author:** ![Stud\_Muffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@Stud\_Muffin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Stud_Muffin)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2015, 7:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/171 "2015-11-21T19:00:37Z")
I have some IFM still left back from 2008. You think it’s still good to go? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2015, 7:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/172 "2015-11-21T19:32:04Z")
If its been kept in a dark/limited-light environment then it should be fine. Some of the scent components can suffer with age but you will know from a sniff if the mones have degraded - it will stink something rotten. And if you don’t want to take the risk, you will probably be bowled-over with offers if you put it on the Trading Post thread in Lounge! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Stud\_Muffin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a87d85/32.png) [@Stud\_Muffin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Stud_Muffin)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2015, 7:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668/173 "2015-11-21T19:39:25Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > If its been kept in a dark/limited-light environment then it should be fine. Some of the scent components can suffer with age but you will know from a sniff if the mones have degraded - it will stink something rotten. > > And if you don’t want to take the risk, you will probably be bowled-over with offers if you put it on the Trading Post thread in Lounge! 😃 Thanks man! [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668.md?page=8)