# Androstadienone: just got it and don't know how to use it, can someone explain? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 25, 2010, 6:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-just-got-it-and-dont-know-how-to-use-it-can-someone-explain/42057 "2010-09-25T18:36:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jstn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jstn/32/848_2.png) [@Jstn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jstn)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 6:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-just-got-it-and-dont-know-how-to-use-it-can-someone-explain/42057/1 "2010-09-25T18:36:47Z")
I just got this and don’t really know at all how to use it can someone please explain. ---
**Author:** ![Joe10](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/joe10/32/300_2.png) [@Joe10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Joe10)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 6:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-just-got-it-and-dont-know-how-to-use-it-can-someone-explain/42057/2 "2010-09-25T18:39:41Z")
search for “A\_1”(take away the underscore) in the search bar and you will find all your answers ---
**Author:** ![Jstn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jstn/32/848_2.png) [@Jstn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jstn)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 6:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-just-got-it-and-dont-know-how-to-use-it-can-someone-explain/42057/3 "2010-09-25T18:41:08Z")
I did but nothing was instructions on how to mix and use it. ---
**Author:** ![Joe10](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/joe10/32/300_2.png) [@Joe10](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Joe10)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 6:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-just-got-it-and-dont-know-how-to-use-it-can-someone-explain/42057/4 "2010-09-25T18:46:09Z")
> [@Androstadienone Guide](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-guide/37668): > > I’ve been thinking about doing this for the longest time but recent events have finally pushed me to do this. In an effort to cut down on the repeated questions, but at the same time encourage more result oriented posts I am making this A-1 guide. Please remember I am NOT a scientist, but merely a tester who is reporting what he’s seen and also info gathered from other fellow members. Table of Contents Section 1: What is A-1? Section 2: What are the effects of A-1? Section 3: When is the bes… Here you go 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 6:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-just-got-it-and-dont-know-how-to-use-it-can-someone-explain/42057/5 "2010-09-25T18:48:27Z")
Beat me to it, I think you’re looking for section 4. ---
**Author:** ![Jstn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jstn/32/848_2.png) [@Jstn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jstn)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 6:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-just-got-it-and-dont-know-how-to-use-it-can-someone-explain/42057/6 "2010-09-25T18:54:48Z")
If I just use it right out of the bottle would that be bad? I don’t have any perfumers alchohol or a pipette. ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 7:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-just-got-it-and-dont-know-how-to-use-it-can-someone-explain/42057/7 "2010-09-25T19:02:01Z")
> [@Jstn](#): > > If I just use it right out of the bottle would that be bad? I don’t have any perfumers alchohol or a pipette. Its really not recommended considering youd end up with a hefty dose of A-1 from 1 drop (anywhere from 35-45 mcgs). If your gonna do that wear a cologne with staying power on it and wear the A-1 away from your neck. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 7:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-just-got-it-and-dont-know-how-to-use-it-can-someone-explain/42057/8 "2010-09-25T19:04:30Z")
> [@Jstn](#): > > If I just use it right out of the bottle would that be bad? I don’t have any perfumers alchohol or a pipette. I seriously don’t understand why you guys want to fuck with chemicals that have known depressive effects. Reading some of your posts I honestly don’t think you’re stable enough to handle any of the emotional effects that might come about with negative side effects. You guys really have to start listening and realizing that people here actually give a shit and have your well being in mind. Stay with the socials like IO IH IS and CTTM. STOP MESSING WITH MOLECULES THAT CAN HURT YOU. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 7:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-just-got-it-and-dont-know-how-to-use-it-can-someone-explain/42057/9 "2010-09-25T19:14:25Z")
You spray it on skin ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 7:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-just-got-it-and-dont-know-how-to-use-it-can-someone-explain/42057/10 "2010-09-25T19:35:18Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > **I seriously don’t understand why you guys want to fuck with chemicals that have known depressive effects.** > > Reading some of your posts I honestly don’t think you’re stable enough to handle any of the emotional effects that might come about with negative side effects. > > You guys really have to start listening and realizing that people here actually give a shit and have your well being in mind. Stay with the socials like IO IH IS and CTTM. STOP MESSING WITH MOLECULES THAT CAN HURT YOU. The part in bold, I’m assuming is aimed at Jstn because there are quite a few people that “fuck with A1” however I’m sure Mustang meant no harm and was just trying to be helpful.🙂 Jtsn, since you’ve already made your purchase I’m going to have to advise you be EXTREMELY careful with how you use A1. It’s one of those pheros that can shit in your face if you don’t use it right. If you don’t have PA, but you have some empty to-go bottlesand you’ve to some cologne then I advise you simply spray the cologne into the to-go until it’s almost full and then use the guide to make a dilution. I’d advise you make a 12.5mcg per spray dilution use it on the BACK of your neck, AWAY from your face to help decrease the chance of A1 depression. Please beware that this chemical can convert back to a-none if you work up a sweat and this can create a problem. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 7:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-just-got-it-and-dont-know-how-to-use-it-can-someone-explain/42057/11 "2010-09-25T19:39:18Z")
> [@K-Train](#): > > The part in bold, I’m assuming is aimed at Jstn because there are quite a few people that “fuck with A1” however I’m sure Mustang meant no harm and was just trying to be helpful.🙂 > > Jtsn, since you’ve already made your purchase I’m going to have to advise you be EXTREMELY careful with how you use A1. It’s one of those pheros that can shit in your face if you don’t use it right. If you don’t have PA, but you have some empty to-go bottlesand you’ve to some cologne then I advise you simply spray the cologne into the to-go until it’s almost full and then use the guide to make a dilution. > > I’d advise you make a 12.5mcg per spray dilution use it on the BACK of your neck, AWAY from your face to help decrease the chance of A1 depression. Please beware that this chemical can convert back to a-none if you work up a sweat and this can create a problem. There are a couple young guys \<18 that want to use some of the stuff, and I just don’t think they have the maturity to handle this kinda stuff. I know depression can be rare, but I had it when I was that young, and I’m going to spare the details but I’ve seen what it can do first hand, and I’m thankful for some people that I’m here to this day. I’d hate to see someone go through that ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 7:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-just-got-it-and-dont-know-how-to-use-it-can-someone-explain/42057/12 "2010-09-25T19:40:04Z")
I’m probably one of the most stable people I know (LOL) and last night I went out with Ishine, and IFM. Before I went to bed I was feeling loooow! Careful of that stuff. ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 7:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-just-got-it-and-dont-know-how-to-use-it-can-someone-explain/42057/13 "2010-09-25T19:47:02Z")
Most importantly please be kind and rewind before you return your VCR tape 😃 ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 7:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-just-got-it-and-dont-know-how-to-use-it-can-someone-explain/42057/14 "2010-09-25T19:47:04Z")
> [@](#): > > There are a couple young guys \<18 that want to use some of the stuff, and I just don’t think they have the maturity to handle this kinda stuff. > > I know depression can be rare, but I had it when I was that young, and I’m going to spare the details but I’ve seen what it can do first hand, and I’m thankful for some people that I’m here to this day. > > I’d hate to see someone go through that Most certaintly. I assumed you were talking to a party of people I didn’t know about which is why I didn’t jump to any rediculous conclusions 😉. But yes, if a person is already slightly depressed or is prone to depression A1 is only going to make it worst. It’s like lighting a flame in a fireworks factory lol. > [@](#): > > I’m probably one of the most stable people I know (LOL) and last night I went out with Ishine, and IFM. Before I went to bed I was feeling loooow! Careful of that stuff. This post, says it all. Thanks Steve.🆒 ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 8:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-just-got-it-and-dont-know-how-to-use-it-can-someone-explain/42057/15 "2010-09-25T20:01:58Z")
> [@K-Train](#): > > Most certaintly. I assumed you were talking to a party of people I didn’t know about which is why I didn’t jump to any rediculous conclusions 😉. But yes, if a person is already slightly depressed or is prone to depression A1 is only going to make it worst. It’s like lighting a flame in a fireworks factory lol. > > This post, says it all. Thanks Steve.🆒 I shoulda phrased that better K, Thanks for being understanding ---
**Author:** ![Razorpowell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d78d45/32.png) [@Razorpowell](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Razorpowell)\ **Post date:** [September 25, 2010, 9:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-just-got-it-and-dont-know-how-to-use-it-can-someone-explain/42057/16 "2010-09-25T21:43:15Z")
jstn: as many people have mentioned (ie, k-train in my journal), you can mix it in a to-go bottle with cologne, or a social like IO or IS ---
**Author:** ![2000GT](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/2000gt/32/389_2.png) [@2000GT](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/2000GT)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 1:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-just-got-it-and-dont-know-how-to-use-it-can-someone-explain/42057/19 "2010-09-26T01:51:32Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > It’s sad really considering I know you regulars take time and effort to help push the kids in the right direction. It seems the younger the newer users we get in here the more they seek “compensation” for whatever they are lacking in the social dynamics department. > > One of Razors post brought me to the attention of something. He was having an exchange with another younger user about the ability to use something like IJ. He said something like you know even though the users in here claim against using something with -none we find a way to use it anyway. I wish I could be 15-17 again and actually give some of these -none products to try just to see. I have a decent grasp of what could happen. But that isnt to say they couldn’t use it. The problem with none products for a youngster this age is being careful, using it properly, and being in a developmental stage in their life. If you dilute IJ or TE down like 1 mL for every 4-7 I think it “could” be wearable at school. I still cant say it would be a good thing but I’m just saying that because I know the young bucks aren’t gonna like hearing that “You can’t do this” because you know how the typical teenager mind works when you try to tell them what to do. (see:defiance) > > Its hard for us to see them ask for advice then when they get it give it no consideration at all and its funny that anything bad a teenager does can somehow make someone older than them responsible. Shooting guns in inapproriate situations, Underage alcohol, Special energy and workout drinks, > misuse of cold medicine, and I know its quite possible with pheromone usage as well. > > **I wish we could make young guys understand that if you can’t appeal to a women’s emotions and make her “feel” attraction to you not just on a physical level but more importantly on a mental/ emotional level that your aren’t going to get laid with anything but your hand.** > > It seems the only way that this knowledge will penetrate the skulls of their young minds is by letting them fuck up in whatever way they manage to and perhaps somewhere along the way they’ll learn a thing or two. Its sounds harsh coming from me but trust me when I say some people are raised ignorant but learn better and some remain ignorant no matter what they experience. Hopefully these boys won’t be the latter. This is especially annoying given the fact that most kids at that age range are so horny that they can’t understand that women are emotional creatures before being physical. They can’t understand why they don’t get horny in a heartbeat like guys do. So yea, it’s a shame but the only way they’ll understand is by getting that good old slap in the face. ---
**Author:** ![Scipio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Scipio](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Scipio)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 4:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-just-got-it-and-dont-know-how-to-use-it-can-someone-explain/42057/20 "2010-09-26T04:52:44Z")
I’m just going to answer your question. I just one drop of the a1 steak sauce split it and put it on my ears. Why? Cause I have pretty big fucking ears that are always hot and red so it diffuses pretty damn quickly. I avoid the back of my neck for mones because I have to wear an apron and I dont want it rubbing constantly. So at work I stick to my front and sides of neck, and ears. The steak sauce pheromone is a pretty damn good mone. However the second I start feeling depressed after wearing it. Id probably stop using it. Or severely decrease the dosage. Its not the the “best” mone out there (a314). But chances are it wont be the 10% thats needed in your life. ---
**Author:** ![Razorpowell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d78d45/32.png) [@Razorpowell](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Razorpowell)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 11:11am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-just-got-it-and-dont-know-how-to-use-it-can-someone-explain/42057/22 "2010-09-26T11:11:49Z")
Radman, if I’m being honest I have found lately that a lot of your posts are consistently condescending and a bit rude. I may be 16 but you seem to be grouping every 16 year old on earth into some hormone-crazed wackjob who will do anything to get with a girl. Many of us are mature. Just don’t start assuming that we’re all some upstarts on your lawn who don’t have anything to contribute, because in an imperfect science, different age groups’ use of [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) are more like a venn diagram- overlapping but not completely the same. First of all, what I find interesting is this complete bias that androstenone will not work with anyone under 18. I think that is completely untrue. What IS true is that you have to wear less, and buffer it. I have never had a good result with more than 5 mcg of androstenone (not counting the none in a314 or mX297- I mean more than 2 sprays of ammo or TUTH). But some of my best hits have been from androstenone products, and A1? A1 is teenager heaven. It calms the hormone crazed beast that is a majority of our females, not to mention adding a crushing effect that girls our age are prone to. Plus its an awesome none buffer. But that is kind of beside the main point. What it comes down to is that a lot of people, young or old, come here expecting the “axe effect”, which doesn’t exist. But of course people want to look for that. Are you kidding? That would be amazing. We as humans, not just teenagers, are extremely good at believing what we want to believe. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2010, 2:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-just-got-it-and-dont-know-how-to-use-it-can-someone-explain/42057/23 "2010-09-26T14:35:42Z")
Somebody coming in looking for a certain type of effect is fine, the issue about somebody buying TuTH as a first purchase is fine. What has annoyed me is the attitude of coming in and asking for advice and then dismissing friendly advice from experienced users as people not knowing what they’re talking about. As for none, it’s not “bias” it’s a generalization. And sadly unless the user feels like going through their sweet spot testing to figure out how each product works individually, broad generalizations are about all we can offer. I mean it’s not like we can test somebodies perspiration to see what their actual pheromone profile is and then customize the perfect mix for them. None based products like TuTH may have worked ok for you, but that’s not the norm, so much as the exception to the rule. Likewise I apologize if you take offense at some of the age based generalizations I’ve made. You seem to be sensible, mature and well spoken. But again taken with the stubborn refusal to hear anything contradictory from the recent group of minors to join, likewise I’ll chalk that up to being the exception to the rule. I’ll chalk up people first starting to buy mones looking for the axe effect as the norm. I’ll admit it. However when an adult purchases TuTH and comes in asking how to use it and the more experienced posters explain that it’s not really a work safe product, more for one on one moments etc…they listen. They acknowledge that the more experienced users have NOTHING to gain by telling them bad or bogus advice. They don’t reply with “nahhhh that can’t be true” Yeah everyone wants buys TuTH for a first purchase expecting the axe effect but adults actually listen when we tell them it doesn’t work that way. With few exceptions, the teenagers act as if we just don’t want them to have any fun. Among the many advisory posts I’ve made I remember informing the OP that A1 was shown to cause depression in a small percentage of males. Making it a risky product for men and even moreso for a teenager who’s emotional state is unstable. Now don’t take that as an insult, it IS a generalization but one based off the fact that during the teenage years hormones fluctuate quite a bit causing many unpredictable mood changes. Sadly we can’t invest the time or effort to find out if each individual teenager is somehow the exception to the rule and not prone to the mood swings that are considered normal for that period of life. But the fact is the op and others were warned against A1. And while you may have issue with me making broad generalizations about teenagers the fact is that after being advised against it (whether you agree with the advice or not being irrelevant) the fact is that afterwards the op went and purchased the product anyway before knowing what it is or how to use it. A lot of males can be exposed to A1 and be fine. But that AD won’t even sell it in chemset form should be a statement about how much of a risk they themselves think it is from a business perspective. [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-just-got-it-and-dont-know-how-to-use-it-can-someone-explain/42057.md?page=2)