# Androstadienone: which androtics products contain it? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 5, 2007, 4:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-which-androtics-products-contain-it/7140 "2007-12-05T04:21:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![weapt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@weapt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/weapt)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2007, 4:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-which-androtics-products-contain-it/7140/1 "2007-12-05T04:21:15Z")
What products from androtics contain [Androstadienone](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/)??? ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2007, 4:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-which-androtics-products-contain-it/7140/2 "2007-12-05T04:59:58Z")
Instant Female Magic ---
**Author:** ![weapt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@weapt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/weapt)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 7:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-which-androtics-products-contain-it/7140/3 "2007-12-11T19:44:20Z")
BUT is androstadienone? or is [Androstenone](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androstenone) ?? ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2007, 7:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-which-androtics-products-contain-it/7140/4 "2007-12-11T19:51:44Z")
As Gegogi said, the main ingredient of [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) is Androstadienone. Androstenone is the main ingredient of Turn Up The Heat and Dirty and is also contained in Ammo (and some more)… ---
**Author:** ![weapt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@weapt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/weapt)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 4:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-which-androtics-products-contain-it/7140/5 "2007-12-12T04:27:49Z")
and instant shine contains what?? ---
**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 4:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-which-androtics-products-contain-it/7140/6 "2007-12-12T04:35:11Z")
Androstadienone (or A=1) is a patented molecule which Androtics does not control, perhaps that’s why it’s not something highly focused on or promoted. A=1 converts to androsteNONE on your body over time. A=1 arouses the brains of heterosexual women and homosexual men similarly (scientifically demonstrated.) I’d guess that [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) is mostly TAA. I’d guess that Mystery Boy MIGHT be mostly TAA and some A=1 (plus cologne) and whatever else … ---
**Author:** ![weapt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@weapt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/weapt)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 6:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-which-androtics-products-contain-it/7140/7 "2007-12-12T06:20:21Z")
what u mean about patented?? so androtics dont really have Androstadienone?? ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 8:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-which-androtics-products-contain-it/7140/8 "2007-12-12T08:33:49Z")
If I recall correctly, Erox, the makers of Realm, have a USA patent on using A-1 in scented products such as colognes and perfumes. You can market it as an unscented chemset component or as part of an unscented mix. However there are scented products available with A-1 from outside the USA. Androtics sells A-1 in their Experimones section. Apparently [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) has a small amount of tweaking pheromones in addition to Androstadienone (to reduce male depression?). I haven’t noticed any significant differences in performance between my Stone Labs chemset A-1 and IFM. Both work well for PMS and neither one depresses me. Seems to me skin bacteria action reduces A-1 first to androstenol first. The final stage of breakdown is androstenone. ---
**Author:** ![weapt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@weapt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/weapt)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 2:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-which-androtics-products-contain-it/7140/9 "2007-12-12T14:36:39Z")
gegogi but you said instant female magic have [Androstadienone. Have instant female magic](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/)[Androstadienone or not???](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/) [And where can i buy a product scent with](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/)[Androstadienone..no scam](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/)??..i live in europe… ---
**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 3:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-which-androtics-products-contain-it/7140/10 "2007-12-12T15:02:43Z")
Weapt, what Gegogi was saying is that another company has a patent on using [Androstadienone](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/) in a scented cologne or perfume. Androtics offers [Androstadienone](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/) in an unscented product: [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/), which includes buffers to reduce the negative self effects some men suffer from when using [Androstadienone](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/). I use Instant Female Magic anytime I am wearing pheros. I think its a great product for putting women at ease and making them feel more comfortable around me. I also believe that [Androstadienone](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/) helps to smoothe out the negative effects of high Androstenone levels, as I have worn very high levels of Androstenone along with Instant Female Magic, and have not seemd to intimidate women or put them in a bitchy mood. ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 3:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-which-androtics-products-contain-it/7140/11 "2007-12-12T15:22:23Z")
androstedienone = IFM ---
**Author:** ![bubblebob](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bubblebob/32/2120_2.png) [@bubblebob](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bubblebob)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 3:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-which-androtics-products-contain-it/7140/12 "2007-12-12T15:24:59Z")
To make it easy: [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/). Main pheromone is Androstadienone (also called A-1). Some other molecules were added to reduce the negative effects on some men. Can be purchased here: [Click](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) Pure Androstadienone (aka A-1). Nothing added. You can choose from different concentrations. Can be purchased here: [Click](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/molecule-a/) No scam! ---
**Author:** ![weapt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/958977/32.png) [@weapt](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/weapt)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2007, 3:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-which-androtics-products-contain-it/7140/13 "2007-12-12T15:34:30Z")
ahhhh ok… i have already [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/). that why i was asking.. i’m more happy now. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![NancysBoy](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nancysboy/32/391_2.png) [@NancysBoy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/NancysBoy)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2008, 4:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-which-androtics-products-contain-it/7140/14 "2008-01-01T04:01:38Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Seems to me skin bacteria action reduces A-1 first to androstenol first. The final stage of breakdown is androstenone. So, after not wearing anything with significant -none itself for many days, is it possible that the -none I sometimes smell is from the [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) I’ve been wearing so much of? I was wondering where that smell was coming from. How long do bacteria take to do this conversion job? Does anyone know?😕 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2008, 9:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstadienone-which-androtics-products-contain-it/7140/15 "2008-01-01T09:41:07Z")
> [@](#): > > How long do bacteria take to do this conversion job? Does anyone know?😕 That depends on a few factors really. Application points, Natural inclination to sweating, Humidity, How often you shower ect… Bacterial conversion happens more rapidly if you spray in bacteria rich enviroments. Groin, pits,feet areas have alot of bacteria which is why they are the first places on your body to become smelly. Unless your working out or your sweating a great deal you should not have serious conversion as long as you shower everyday. From what I recall A1 first converts to nols and nols convert to anone. Tisha