# androSTANone, equilin, estriadol, estratrianol, beta-none, beta-rone **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 13, 2010, 7:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstanone-equilin-estriadol-estratrianol-beta-none-beta-rone/41680 "2010-09-13T07:34:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![flight](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flight/32/989_2.png) [@flight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flight)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 7:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstanone-equilin-estriadol-estratrianol-beta-none-beta-rone/41680/1 "2010-09-13T07:34:23Z")
OK, so there are several [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) in the kit section of LS which I’ve often seen and wondered about, but have NEVER seen on this forum, and would really like to know more about, mainly just if they are effective whatsoever. I would like to experiment in them (thus why I don’t care much as to their actual effects, but merely that they HAVE EFFECTS, as they’re pretty expensive, mainly just because they are the kit versions). They are: AndroSTANone (not androstEnone, androstAnone) Equilin Metabolism Pheromones (Why does it say “metabolism” mones??? Is there a specific reason?) Estriadol Estratrianol ALSO, there are several molecules I HAVE HEARD MENTIONED on this forum, but that are VERY difficult to find any actual information about. Specifically, the rarely talked about beta versions of both none and rone. So I want to know about: Beta-AndrosteRone vs Alpha-AndrosteRone Beta-AndrosteNone vs Alpha-AndrosteNone And finally, are there any other molecules that have a beta version that anyone knows about? These things seem so… overlooked and not thought about to me, I want to bring them forward, and would LOVE to via my own reports, but seeing as I am a bit hard on cash, I probably will never buy them unless SOMEONE pipes up about their legitimacy as pheromones. If they do I WILL TRY MY BEST TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET AND TEST THEM. Finally, oxytocin isn’t talked about a whole lot, and I figured that would be good to mention, and would simultaneously reduce the need for this thread to be bumped in the future quite so much, so if people could pipe in about that, that would be good. My reading experience has been that those who say you’d pretty much need to inject it intravenously or spray it straight up the target’s nose to have any real effect haven’t tried it, but I can’t say for sure. There seem to be a good deal of people who tried it whom it worked for, who’ve tried it but it didn’t work for, and those who have had inconsistent results, such as a good bottle on one purchase but a bogus bottle the next, which is kinda disconcerting as to all the reviews out there, which is another reason I’d like people to speak up as to the legitimacy of oxytocin (liquid trust) as an effective pheromone. Thank you all in advance, Flight ---
**Author:** ![flight](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flight/32/989_2.png) [@flight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flight)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 8:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstanone-equilin-estriadol-estratrianol-beta-none-beta-rone/41680/2 "2010-09-13T08:56:54Z")
I just now realized that AD might very well ACTUALLY be selling these products, but as putatives and in the TA series. If anyone knows about that I’d like a conformation… but I’d really like to know what all there is to experiment in, as I very well intend to eventually experiment with all of it. EVENTUALLY. Haha anyone babysit a little sibling and remember the end of the pokemon theme song? Gotta catch 'em all!! GOTTA CATCH 'EM ALLLL!!! POK-E-MON!!! Every time I’m on here I hear this other version: Gotta test 'em all!! GOTTA TEST 'EM ALLLL!!! PHER-O-MONES!!! Not even kidding, kinda cheesy and embarrassing, I know.:o But funny if you like that kind of humor, so I thought I’d finally include that (and maybe stick it in someone else’s head! haha 😛). ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 10:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstanone-equilin-estriadol-estratrianol-beta-none-beta-rone/41680/3 "2010-09-13T10:28:28Z")
Yes, I am sure all if not most of those are sold here under a putative code. They dont reveal the chemical name of the putatives here so no one can really tell you which code number go’s with which chemical listed. > [@](#): > > Finally, oxytocin isn’t talked about a whole lot, and I figured that would be good to mention, and would simultaneously reduce the need for this thread to be bumped in the future quite so much, so if people could pipe in about that, that would be good. My reading experience has been that those who say you’d pretty much need to inject it intravenously or spray it straight up the target’s nose to have any real effect haven’t tried it, but I can’t say for sure. There seem to be a good deal of people who tried it whom it worked for, who’ve tried it but it didn’t work for, and those who have had inconsistent results, such as a good bottle on one purchase but a bogus bottle the next, which is kinda disconcerting as to all the reviews out there, which is another reason I’d like people to speak up as to the legitimacy of oxytocin (liquid trust) as an effective pheromone. I have tried it in the form of liquid trust but it really doesn’t do much used pheromonally. I have not tried injecting or spraying it up my nose because its a drug not a pheromone. There are plenty of studies about oxytocin. Its has a short active span of about 3 minutes. It needs to be refrigerated until use. It needs to be sprayed directly into the nose in massive doses so it can absorb into the system. The effect it has naturally happens when the baby ingests milk from it mother not pheromonally. Equilin is a horse hormone that is used in hormone replacement therapy for women. Both equilin and equilin derivatives are believed to be carcinogenic. The only time its found naturally in the human body is in inflamed tissues. Its also known as _,3,5(10),7-Estratetraen-3-one Methyl Ether or_ Methoxyestratetraenone \*. \*Cant say with 100% certainty its the same one here but the short chemical name is Meo Est. You will have to do your own research and come to your own conclusion but I wont mess with that one anymore. We asked about this often in the forum to try to confirm but never got a response on it. Maybe this is why this is one of the few they sell by actual chemical name so you can come to your own decision on whether its something you want to use. Beta means a isomeric variation of a chemical compound. They are different variations of lets use anol for example. The second atom in a organic molecule is substituted Metabolism hormones/pheromones are I believe hormones/pheromones broken down from other hormones/pheromones by a chemical reaction in the body. In the case of equilin its a reaction caused by the inflamed tissue. You have to remember while every pheromone is a hormone every hormone is not a pheromone. Some substances that are not hormones in the body act as pheromones. They send signals but it may not be a signal you want to be sending in the body. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 12:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstanone-equilin-estriadol-estratrianol-beta-none-beta-rone/41680/4 "2010-09-13T12:37:29Z")
> [@flight](#): > > OK, so there are several pheromones in the kit section of LS which I’ve often seen and wondered about, but have NEVER seen on this forum, and would really like to know more about, mainly just if they are effective whatsoever. I would like to experiment in them (thus why I don’t care much as to their actual effects, but merely that they HAVE EFFECTS, as they’re pretty expensive, mainly just because they are the kit versions). They are: > AndroSTANone (not androstEnone, androstAnone) > Equilin Metabolism Pheromones (Why does it say “metabolism” mones??? Is there a specific reason?) > Estriadol > Estratrianol > > ALSO, there are several molecules I HAVE HEARD MENTIONED on this forum, but that are VERY difficult to find any actual information about. Specifically, the rarely talked about beta versions of both none and rone. So I want to know about: > Beta-AndrosteRone vs Alpha-AndrosteRone > Beta-AndrosteNone vs Alpha-AndrosteNone > > And finally, are there any other molecules that have a beta version that anyone knows about? These things seem so… overlooked and not thought about to me, I want to bring them forward, and would LOVE to via my own reports, but seeing as I am a bit hard on cash, I probably will never buy them unless SOMEONE pipes up about their legitimacy as pheromones. If they do I WILL TRY MY BEST TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET AND TEST THEM. > > Finally, oxytocin isn’t talked about a whole lot, and I figured that would be good to mention, and would simultaneously reduce the need for this thread to be bumped in the future quite so much, so if people could pipe in about that, that would be good. My reading experience has been that those who say you’d pretty much need to inject it intravenously or spray it straight up the target’s nose to have any real effect haven’t tried it, but I can’t say for sure. There seem to be a good deal of people who tried it whom it worked for, who’ve tried it but it didn’t work for, and those who have had inconsistent results, such as a good bottle on one purchase but a bogus bottle the next, which is kinda disconcerting as to all the reviews out there, which is another reason I’d like people to speak up as to the legitimacy of oxytocin (liquid trust) as an effective pheromone. > > Thank you all in advance, > Flight Theres only one warning I give on those test kits. With an exception to the regular mones (A-1,rone,enone,b-nol,a-nol) those others are not sold as advertised due to error in quantity. For all of those experimentals they really give you 5-6 mL worth and not really 10 mL. I wanted to address this concern with them considering its false advertising and not good business but I decided not to. BOOOO I was young enough at the time to be a pokemon viewer. I dont want any pesky babysitters around 🆒 ---
**Author:** ![flight](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flight/32/989_2.png) [@flight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flight)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 1:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstanone-equilin-estriadol-estratrianol-beta-none-beta-rone/41680/5 "2010-09-14T01:12:44Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > Theres only one warning I give on those test kits. With an exception to the regular mones (A-1,rone,enone,b-nol,a-nol) those others are not sold as advertised due to error in quantity. > > For all of those experimentals they really give you 5-6 mL worth and not really 10 mL. I wanted to address this concern with them considering its false advertising and not good business but I decided not to. > > BOOOO I was young enough at the time to be a pokemon viewer. I dont want any pesky babysitters around 🆒 Thanks again all of you, thats really helpful. As for the smaller amount for the non-classic mones, wow!😮 That’s scary, thanks a ton for telling me!!! That changes a lot about where I think I’ll be buying… And lol I was young enough too, infact I was just a hair above a toddler if memory serves during that episode where pikachu almost runs away to live in the wild, and I balled my eyes out, to the probable annoyance of the babysitter. I didn’t think there would be too many people really young enough on here to have watched it because they liked to watch it and were in that age group… thats awesome! Haha I really wanna make that song… and put it in the lounge or something. ---
**Author:** ![flight](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/flight/32/989_2.png) [@flight](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/flight)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 1:19am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstanone-equilin-estriadol-estratrianol-beta-none-beta-rone/41680/6 "2010-09-14T01:19:44Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Yes, I am sure all if not most of those are sold here under a putative code. > > They dont reveal the chemical name of the putatives here so no one can really tell you which code number go’s with which chemical listed. > > I have tried it in the form of liquid trust but it really doesn’t do much used pheromonally. I have not tried injecting or spraying it up my nose because its a drug not a pheromone. There are plenty of studies about oxytocin. Its has a short active span of about 3 minutes. It needs to be refrigerated until use. It needs to be sprayed directly into the nose in massive doses so it can absorb into the system. The effect it has naturally happens when the baby ingests milk from it mother not pheromonally. > > Equilin is a horse hormone that is used in hormone replacement therapy for women. Both equilin and equilin derivatives are believed to be carcinogenic. The only time its found naturally in the human body is in inflamed tissues. Its also known as _,3,5(10),7-Estratetraen-3-one Methyl Ether or_ Methoxyestratetraenone \*. \*Cant say with 100% certainty its the same one here but the short chemical name is Meo Est. You will have to do your own research and come to your own conclusion but I wont mess with that one anymore. We asked about this often in the forum to try to confirm but never got a response on it. Maybe this is why this is one of the few they sell by actual chemical name so you can come to your own decision on whether its something you want to use. > > Beta means a isomeric variation of a chemical compound. They are different variations of lets use anol for example. The second atom in a organic molecule is substituted > > Metabolism hormones/pheromones are I believe hormones/pheromones broken down from other hormones/pheromones by a chemical reaction in the body. In the case of equilin its a reaction caused by the inflamed tissue. > > You have to remember while every pheromone is a hormone every hormone is not a pheromone. Some substances that are not hormones in the body act as pheromones. They send signals but it may not be a signal you want to be sending in the body. > > Tisha All of that is VERY helpful, thanks a lot, it clears up a ton.😃 The only thing left is, I know that the beta version merely means a different isometric variation, but what I want to know are the effects of the two pheromonally, such as how alpha and beta nol have slightly differcnt effects, but do alpha-none and beta-none? or what about alpha-rone and beta-rone? And finally, which are in AD products (or even say AD’s experimones, and which are in LS’s kits/supplies)? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 7:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstanone-equilin-estriadol-estratrianol-beta-none-beta-rone/41680/7 "2010-09-14T07:56:46Z")
> [@](#): > > but what I want to know are the effects of the two pheromonally, such as how alpha and beta [nol](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/) have slightly differcnt effects, but do alpha -none ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)) and beta -none ([https://pheromonelabs.com/](https://pheromonelabs.com/)) ? or what about alpha-Androsterone and beta-Androsterone And finally, which are in AD products (or even say AD’s experimones, and which are in LS’s kits/supplies)? Juat like anol and bnol have simularities and differences so would any other [pheromone](https://a314.com/) and its Beta version. I cant say for sure which are in the AD products and while they may confirm they have it they wont tell you which putative it is. LS doesnt sell Brone by name. I know a few good dealers that do though but if I say them here I will get in trouble. Just do a google and you will find it. Its not to expensive either. Tisha