# AndrostAnone: looking for user experiences, and is it one of the putatives? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 22, 2007, 7:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstanone-looking-for-user-experiences-and-is-it-one-of-the-putatives/2646 "2007-03-22T07:50:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 7:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstanone-looking-for-user-experiences-and-is-it-one-of-the-putatives/2646/1 "2007-03-22T07:50:15Z")
I’ve taken an interest in androstanone, and have been researching. I’d like get some more user experiences as there aren’t to men on this forum. I’ve sent out a few PM’s to people who seemed to have experience with it, and brought back a very informative post in the theory forum Everybody reading this. Check out this post in the theory forum, and give Scottie some rep points for posting such detailed information. > [@Anyone familiar w/ these molecules](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/anyone-familiar-w-these-molecules/823): > > Just wondering if anyone knows something about these and if they may be worth investigating. Androstanone: 5α-androstan-3-one [http://www.pharmacomdirect.com/images/androanalogues.GIF](http://www.pharmacomdirect.com/images/androanalogues.GIF) Estratrienol: 1,3,5(10)-estratrien-3-ol [http://www.pharmacomdirect.com/images/estratrienolSAR.GIF](http://www.pharmacomdirect.com/images/estratrienolSAR.GIF) estratetraenone: 1,3,5(10),7-Estratetraen-3-ol-17-one This compound was [serendipitously](http://www.thefreedictionary.com/serendipitously) found to exhibit what seems to be greater pheromonal effects to that of estratetraenol in uncontrolled tests. More pronounced… I’m also curious to see if anybody suspects it of being one of the putatives. I have a suspect, but I don’t want to influence your peception. ---
**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 6:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstanone-looking-for-user-experiences-and-is-it-one-of-the-putatives/2646/2 "2007-03-22T18:41:40Z")
**Mak** calls androstanone “cheeky bastard” – some of the drive of androstenone without the confronting dynamic but also with some of the brightness of androstenol. I got testers of 12.5 mcg / spray and 2.5 mcg / spray. When I used the -AndrostAnone in a mix, I had the intuition that I should really dial it back. So I decanted some down to about 75 nano per spray, and I now use a couple of sprays of -AndrostAnone to add a slightly more aggressively sexual vibe at work (perhaps once or twice a week) and whenever at play. I like the -AndrostAnone as a hint that’s buried in my scent unless and until the target gets close to my neck/chest. I’m waiting for some “clear space” to wash down to a clean slate and experiement with several products – probably late May. I only have used this one incrementally, added to my other mixes. I’d like to hear more about people’s androstanone adventures, too. ---
**Author:** ![Bunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Bunny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bunny)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 6:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstanone-looking-for-user-experiences-and-is-it-one-of-the-putatives/2646/3 "2007-03-22T18:45:20Z")
Umm..no. I won’t rep something that’s such old news Estradiol, Equilin, Estratrienol, etc. are WELL-documented here. AndrostAnone too, EST - LOADS in the women’s forum. Why is this even being considered something that’s just been discovered? Ail. ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 6:48pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstanone-looking-for-user-experiences-and-is-it-one-of-the-putatives/2646/4 "2007-03-22T18:48:25Z")
> [@Ail](#): > > Umm..no. I won’t rep something that’s such old news > > Estradiol, Equilin etc. are WELL-documeted. AndrostAnone too, EST - LOADS in the women’s forum. > > Why is this even being considered something that’s just been discovered? > > Ail. My focus was on Androstanone. Do you have any information? There is little testing out there. So far I have only found two people who have delved into this molocule, and a two more who have brushed the surface. If you have any information I’d love to hear it. ---
**Author:** ![countesszero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/countesszero/32/1392_2.png) [@countesszero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/countesszero)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 8:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstanone-looking-for-user-experiences-and-is-it-one-of-the-putatives/2646/5 "2007-03-22T20:08:07Z")
I wear Pre-Release Dirty which is Androstenone and Cops and my hubby goes wild for it. Of course this is coming from a female perspective. I’m sure some of the guys will give you some much needed info. ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 8:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstanone-looking-for-user-experiences-and-is-it-one-of-the-putatives/2646/6 "2007-03-22T20:10:54Z")
> [@countesszero](#): > > I wear Pre-Release Dirty which is Androstenone and Cops and my hubby goes wild for it. Of course this is coming from a female perspective. I’m sure some of the guys will give you some much needed info. hehe…I’m looking for androstAnone as opposed to androstEnone. Thanks though. ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 8:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstanone-looking-for-user-experiences-and-is-it-one-of-the-putatives/2646/7 "2007-03-22T20:14:09Z")
> [@MarkL](#): > > **Mak** calls androstanone “cheeky bastard” – some of the drive of androstenone without the confronting dynamic but also with some of the brightness of androstenol. > > I got testers of 12.5 mcg / spray and 2.5 mcg / spray. When I used the -AndrostAnone in a mix, I had the intuition that I should really dial it back. > > So I decanted some down to about 75 nano per spray, and I now use a couple of sprays of -AndrostAnone to add a slightly more aggressively sexual vibe at work (perhaps once or twice a week) and whenever at play. > > I like the -AndrostAnone as a hint that’s buried in my scent unless and until the target gets close to my neck/chest. > > I’m waiting for some “clear space” to wash down to a clean slate and experiement with several products – probably late May. I only have used this one incrementally, added to my other mixes. > > I’d like to hear more about people’s androstanone adventures, too. I’m hoping to hear from Mak. I sent him a PM, but I don’t know how long it’s been since he’s been active. Have you used it at higher levels? ---
**Author:** ![countesszero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/countesszero/32/1392_2.png) [@countesszero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/countesszero)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 8:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstanone-looking-for-user-experiences-and-is-it-one-of-the-putatives/2646/8 "2007-03-22T20:18:57Z")
Toilofday, I see that your from Indiana. I’m originally from East Chicago Indiana, Harbor but havent been back there in over 20 years. For obvious reasons. OK back to topic. I’m sure Mak will respond if he’s around. ---
**Author:** ![toilofday](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/toilofday/32/371_2.png) [@toilofday](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/toilofday)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 8:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstanone-looking-for-user-experiences-and-is-it-one-of-the-putatives/2646/9 "2007-03-22T20:22:40Z")
I’m glad you made it out. I’m still fighting to do so. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2007, 10:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstanone-looking-for-user-experiences-and-is-it-one-of-the-putatives/2646/10 "2007-03-22T22:30:25Z")
Ail, I’ve tried searching on androstAnone several time over the past month and not found much of substance – going back to early 2006. Sometimes there’s a glitch in search function, though. Any references to threads with field reports, etc. would be very helpful. ---
**Author:** ![Socrates](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@Socrates](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Socrates)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2007, 12:41am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstanone-looking-for-user-experiences-and-is-it-one-of-the-putatives/2646/11 "2007-03-24T00:41:23Z")
This is pretty much all the ‘hit reports’ on AndrostAnone so far… `http://www.pherolibrary.com/forum/sh...t=16955&page=2&` Gegogi: "Yesterday I visited a female friend (with benefits) and she was on the rag and rather depressed 'n bitchy. Normally I would have made a quick getaway but since I just tinkled myself with several drops of Androstanone, I thought I’d hang around and see what happens. Within a couple minutes she underwent a major mood transformation and became light hearted and talkative. I suspect the Androstanone had something to do with her mood change as she normally stays mean ‘n bitchy during her monthy punishment. Of course maybe it was my grinin’ mug and sunny disposition that uplifted her. After a couple weeks of testing I’m starting to see patterns. Androstanone seems to have some of the female mood elevation characteristics of A-1 but with the openness and chatter of Scent of Eros. However I always have to intiate and be friendly, otherwise zippo. Once I intiate, the floodgates seem to open wide. It may make a good team with androstenone products such NPA or The Edge. That’s my next test stage–combos. Oddly Androstanone smells similar to androstenone so a cover is way recommended." Stephen: "This seems effective in two areas. 1. My gf feels good and associates that feeling with me. 2. When she is having her period, she reports she feels a lot less physical discomfort when she is around me since I started using this. Whereas before there would be 2-3 days where she felt bad and was not interested in sex now she feels that way until we get together and then she feels better (within under 10 minutes) and has been interested. I think this works. I think it reduces her pain when she is in pain and causes pleasurable physical feelings when she is not in pain. I apply 1 drop to each wrist over the pulse points and rub my arms together." Mx172-173 Domingo: "I’ll try, but remember; English is not my native language, so I hope you can understand me, OK? First there is the scent. Based on that alone, I can not tell the difference between the two -nones, both very stinkie in high (chemset) concentrations. The reaction on myself is a bit more suave with AndrostAnone then is the case with Androst-E -None . In other words, I can tolerate it better. On women it seems to work rather well. That is, if kept within a reasonable dose and toned down with other, more friendly [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/). I have a mix consisting of: 2.5mcg/ TAF , 10mcg/ P74 , 7,5mcg/ P81 and 7,5mcg/ p83 per spray, and when I add a small amount of A -none to that it brings very nice results. Girls seem to be real comfortable, and at the same time quite flirty and inviting around me when I wear this. Lots of hair flipping, ‘that’ looks etc. However, when you overdo it, it has the same ‘dark’ vibe as its twin brother. Maybe even worse… Best example so far is the experience I had with my dentists assistant. She is in her late twenty’s, and a very nice ‘girl next door’-type. Long, dark hair, ponytail, nice figure, sunny character, just a real nice girl (good teeth also, lol). I don’t know if she has a boyfriend or anything, but I alway’s have the feeling she kindda likes my type also, so to speak. Anyway, recently I had some dentalwork to be done (rootcanal), and because this treatment is done in multiple, rather lenghty sessions, I thought it was a exellent opportunity to test some pheromones. Specially because you have people being very close to you for a fair amount of time. My dentist is a woman too, by the way, but she’s older (late 40ths) and married, and not really attractive, very friendly tho. I like her a lot. On the first session I wore a combination with 2 drops of A314 (in the neck) and some cologne with A- Androstenol and B- Androstenol (you could say it’s kind of like a ‘DeLuxe’-version of ‘Scent of Eros’) and just very little A -none . Just tipped a needle in the bottle and smeared that on my underarms. That’s maybe 1/8th of a drop, maybe more, maybe less, I don’t know, but I could hardly smell it, so it could not have been much. This resulted in overal good vibes, two friendly women doing their job and the assistent being her smiling and lovely self. Later, when she took the next appointment, I made a joke when she asked when I had time for the next appointment, I told her I’d wait till it was ‘skirt season’ again. Nah, this doesnt translate well, but at least it made her laugh out loud, so she thought it was funny and was obviously not offended by it at all. However, the 2nd appointment was very different! This was about 7 weeks later and I wore 2 drops of pure (chemset !!) A -none , added to about 1/2 a ml of diluted cologne (Fahrenheit with some Wodka) so I was able to spray quite a lot of it without being a perfum-bomb. I wore no other pheromones that day. At first the assistent was nice (“hi, hello, how are you?”) big smile, just as usual. After that they started working on me and I didn’t noticed very much regarding effects of the pheromones, well, not untill they were finished, that is! First, they did not offer me any water to clean my mouth. Which is odd, because they ALWAY’S do that! And second, they didn’t pull the lamp up, nor did they adjust the chair, so I just had to slide from under that lamp, which was still quite close to my face, lol. But that’s not all! I also had to make a new appointment for in about 2 weeks, to make a photo and see if it all went well. First, the assistent kept me waiting for almost 15 minutes! And man, that look on her face when she finally made time for me! LOL! Like I had done something really bad to her. Very short answers, irritated and a ‘drop dead asshole’-look on her face. I was totally amazed! And I NEVER saw her act like that! And I have seen her like maybe 20 times over the last 6 years. Weird, weird, WEIRD! Off course, two weeks later everything was completely back to normal. So far my experiences with A -none . In short: I think that regarding the effect on women, both the good sides as well as the bad sites are more obvious. For myself I like it better than E -none , because the latter I can’t stand at all. Only thing I have not tried is how it effects other men." ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2007, 2:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstanone-looking-for-user-experiences-and-is-it-one-of-the-putatives/2646/12 "2007-03-24T02:15:16Z")
Cool Vis, you just quoted the entire written knowledge of the net concerning Androstanone (save the articles with rats as test subjects!). I think I wrote that little doodad a couple months ago. Since then I have played with Androstanone in a number of combos. It dresses up well with both alpha and beta nol and similar premixed products such as SOE. Increases the social enhancement while maintaining a nice edgy quality. It also pairs well with chemset androstenone or heavy none product mixes such as TE or NPA. It seems to hold back some of the rawness of none without destroying the aggressive sexual undercurrent. I’ve also used it with chemset androsterone and A314 (separately) and found it seems to impart a little more bite to the rone without going over the top. In general androstanone seems to be a more gentle and social version of androstenone. I haven’t seen any negative reactions yet and can apply a lot without an OD. It does stink like cat diddle, ass and pit. ---
**Author:** ![dude](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dude/32/2011_2.png) [@dude](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dude)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 9:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstanone-looking-for-user-experiences-and-is-it-one-of-the-putatives/2646/13 "2008-12-11T09:15:21Z")
I’m curious with this Phero. Anybody else with experience on it? ---
**Author:** ![TheCentaur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ea5d25/32.png) [@TheCentaur](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheCentaur)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2009, 9:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstanone-looking-for-user-experiences-and-is-it-one-of-the-putatives/2646/14 "2009-04-15T21:28:14Z")
bump. I think my first experiences with pheromones(beaux geste) had androstAnone. I smelled TUTH(androstEnone), and it was very urine-like. Beau Geste was sweaty, musky floral; something I have smelled on my armpits before. I am interested in knowing if anyone else has info or experience on this molecule? I heard mention that it _might_ be a putative… kinda wierd that there isn’t much info on this, even though the posts go back to '06 ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2009, 2:18am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstanone-looking-for-user-experiences-and-is-it-one-of-the-putatives/2646/15 "2009-04-16T02:18:05Z")
Masculine [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) without the agressive qualities of anone. Generally perceived as comforting and not intimidating. It is a good buffer for anone. Has similarities to both rone and a1. ---
**Author:** ![lone\_star](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lone_star/32/1543_2.png) [@lone\_star](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lone_star)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 4:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstanone-looking-for-user-experiences-and-is-it-one-of-the-putatives/2646/16 "2010-02-03T04:47:44Z")
I haven’t tried AndrostAnone yet but it seems promising. Apparently it is a derivative of androstenone. I read that it has the same properties of enone but it’s harder to od on, and this could be very useful in places where enone would be inappropriate. But then again I have also read that it is a very potent product and you need an even smaller dose. So which one is it? If [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) is anone then it is the ladder. Users are always trying androstadienone from LS but I never read about reports on Anone. I think Anone might be my next purchase. ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyHard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnnyhard/32/1753_2.png) [@JohnnyHard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyHard)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2010, 7:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstanone-looking-for-user-experiences-and-is-it-one-of-the-putatives/2646/17 "2010-02-03T19:51:27Z")
The Question is which is better A1 or AnrostAnone? ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2010, 2:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstanone-looking-for-user-experiences-and-is-it-one-of-the-putatives/2646/18 "2010-02-04T02:14:21Z")
> [@JohnnyHard](#): > > The Question is which is better A1 or AnrostAnone? That depends on the situation and the girl. If the girl is on her period, then A1’s got the upper hand because it’s effects are OBVIOUS. A1 also tends to make girls at ease and prevents you from becoming the object of their frustrations.🆒 AndrostAnone(P75) on the other hand is a very masculine pheros, to me it’s like TUTH only more sociable and the effects aren’t obvious. [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) doesn’t seem to bother girls during their period so maybe try using both at that time and see what you get?😉 ---
**Author:** ![Jasmin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jasmin/32/287_2.png) [@Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jasmin)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2010, 2:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstanone-looking-for-user-experiences-and-is-it-one-of-the-putatives/2646/19 "2010-02-13T14:04:33Z")
> [@K-Train](#): > > That depends on the situation and the girl. If the girl is on her period, then A1’s got the upper hand because it’s effects are OBVIOUS. A1 also tends to make girls at ease and prevents you from becoming the object of their frustrations.🆒 > > AndrostAnone(P75) on the other hand is a very masculine pheros, to me it’s like TUTH only more sociable and the effects aren’t obvious. P75 doesn’t seem to bother girls during their period so maybe try using both at that time and see what you get?😉 Err… K-train, where did you hear that [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) is AndrostAnone? I am 99.99% sure that isn’t correct. Let me know where you caught that info (show me your source, baby!), and I can pop in and make sure it’s accurate, so no misinfo gets spread. Misinfo is terrible! And I _really_ don’t want people buying P75 if they think it is AndrostAnone. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2010, 5:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstanone-looking-for-user-experiences-and-is-it-one-of-the-putatives/2646/20 "2010-09-03T05:54:47Z")
> [@Jasmin](#): > > Err… K-train, where did you hear that P75 is AndrostAnone? > > I am 99.99% sure that isn’t correct. > > Let me know where you caught that info (show me your source, baby!), and I can pop in and make sure it’s accurate, so no misinfo gets spread. Misinfo is terrible! And I _really_ don’t want people buying P75 if they think it is AndrostAnone. Now I find out? lol [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstanone-looking-for-user-experiences-and-is-it-one-of-the-putatives/2646.md?page=2)