# Androstenone 12.5mcg **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 1, 2010, 1:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-12-5mcg/36632 "2010-03-01T01:22:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Experimator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/experimator/32/1015_2.png) [@Experimator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Experimator)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2010, 1:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-12-5mcg/36632/1 "2010-03-01T01:22:04Z")
Had to try it! Over a year ago I started with A314 and TUTH 2X. Big mistake! A314 was an awesome start but TUTH, and that too 2X, was a blunder to say the least. Later I went to TUTH regular strength and got some very powerful results. Later combined it with IS and experimented with slightly higher doses. Worked very well. I read in forums that the main ingredient in TUTH is none. But I believe there is more to it in it that just none. I am convinced of it after trying none 12.5mcg. Couple of days ago in the evening I had to take my wife and son out to dinner at a restaurant of her choice. Took a good shower and then put one spray of Androstenone 12.5mcg on my wrists (Akuto fragrance…:-)). Loved the smell. Wife also liked it. She did not know that I had put on -none. There were no noticeable self effects for about 30 minutes. Reached the restaurant. Parked the car. The restaurant was a good 5 minutes from the parking. One the way we passed a couple of good pubs and a movie theatre. There were teenagers hanging out. College kids having laughs. Overall a nice jolly atmosphere. We reached the restaurant and got a nice place to sit. I noticed that my posture was very nice. Spine and neck erect, shoulders wide and face expressing a powerful vibe. A nice waitress came over to take our order. She spent a minute or two explaining the specials and some suggestions. I noticed that she gradually started to pay more attention to me. I certainly did not observe any negative effect of androstenone like I had previously with high doses of TUTH. My wife was very attentive to me. Son was having a great time too. We had a great evening. It had been about 2.5 hours since I applied androstenone 12.5mcg. It became quite cold later and I asked my wife and son to wait for me at the restaurant while I would go get the car. I walked past the teenage crowd. I noticed that I was feeling taller than I usually do. I was feeling powerful, important and attractive. Got a few IOI looks from girls while walking past them. It had to do with my dressup and posture because the pheros could not have affected them so quickly. Had a good time later that evening. Son decided to sleep in our bed. So that was it. The next morning wife told me that she had very vivid sexual dreams about me and her. Later that day we made them a reality. 🙂 Anyway, my whole purpose of trying androstenone 12.5mcg was to compare its effect with those of TUTH. I came to a conclusion that TUTH has a very specific purpose and works like a charm for it even at low doses. It increases the sexual presence exponentially. It is very easy to OD on it. Whereas plain androstenone did not exhibit any negetive effects that I have observed with TUTH at same dosage. However, it also did not exhibit a very sexual presence either. With 1 spray of TUTH 2X my wife and I get aggressive. I try to control the situation because I know that it is because of what I have sprayed on myself. I did not observe any aggression with plain androstenone. Well, More experimentation with it is needed. Will report more as I try it. ---
**Author:** ![NIGHTistheNEWDAY](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/nightisthenewday/32/2148_2.png) [@NIGHTistheNEWDAY](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/NIGHTistheNEWDAY)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2010, 4:32am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-12-5mcg/36632/2 "2010-03-01T04:32:01Z")
> [@Experimator](#): > > Had to try it! > > Over a year ago I started with A314 and TUTH 2X. Big mistake! A314 was an awesome start but TUTH, and that too 2X, was a blunder to say the least. > > Later I went to TUTH regular strength and got some very powerful results. Later combined it with IS and experimented with slightly higher doses. Worked very well. > > I read in forums that the main ingredient in TUTH is none. But I believe there is more to it in it that just none. I am convinced of it after trying none 12.5mcg. > > Couple of days ago in the evening I had to take my wife and son out to dinner at a restaurant of her choice. Took a good shower and then put one spray of Androstenone 12.5mcg on my wrists (Akuto fragrance…:-)). Loved the smell. Wife also liked it. She did not know that I had put on -none. There were no noticeable self effects for about 30 minutes. Reached the restaurant. Parked the car. The restaurant was a good 5 minutes from the parking. One the way we passed a couple of good pubs and a movie theatre. There were teenagers hanging out. College kids having laughs. Overall a nice jolly atmosphere. We reached the restaurant and got a nice place to sit. I noticed that my posture was very nice. Spine and neck erect, shoulders wide and face expressing a powerful vibe. A nice waitress came over to take our order. She spent a minute or two explaining the specials and some suggestions. I noticed that she gradually started to pay more attention to me. I certainly did not observe any negative effect of androstenone like I had previously with high doses of TUTH. My wife was very attentive to me. Son was having a great time too. We had a great evening. It had been about 2.5 hours since I applied androstenone 12.5mcg. It became quite cold later and I asked my wife and son to wait for me at the restaurant while I would go get the car. I walked past the teenage crowd. I noticed that I was feeling taller than I usually do. I was feeling powerful, important and attractive. Got a few IOI looks from girls while walking past them. It had to do with my dressup and posture because the pheros could not have affected them so quickly. > > Had a good time later that evening. Son decided to sleep in our bed. So that was it. The next morning wife told me that she had very vivid sexual dreams about me and her. Later that day we made them a reality. 🙂 > > Anyway, my whole purpose of trying androstenone 12.5mcg was to compare its effect with those of TUTH. I came to a conclusion that TUTH has a very specific purpose and works like a charm for it even at low doses. It increases the sexual presence exponentially. It is very easy to OD on it. Whereas plain androstenone did not exhibit any negetive effects that I have observed with TUTH at same dosage. However, it also did not exhibit a very sexual presence either. With 1 spray of TUTH 2X my wife and I get aggressive. I try to control the situation because I know that it is because of what I have sprayed on myself. I did not observe any aggression with plain androstenone. > > Well, More experimentation with it is needed. Will report more as I try it. Great Report, I would love to know what the steering mones in TUTH are that make it so powerful. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2010, 4:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-12-5mcg/36632/3 "2010-03-01T04:59:20Z")
From what I’ve read AD doesn’t use putatives in the consumer line, unless I’m mistaken anyway. But if they did I’d almost suspect [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) and P86 in the TuTH. Reports I’ve read imply a “beautifying effect” and a “space reducing” and “touch me” effect. If none by itself can be either sexual or violent depending on the situation, I would imagine a small dose of molecules that enhance attractiveness and inspire close physical contact would be enough to guide the shotgun effect of none into more of a snipers bullet. I’m sure I’m way off base as I don’t understand the chemistry enough to know for sure but if I had to try and make homebrewed TuTH those would be the ingredients I’d choose. ---
**Author:** ![tfrankz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tfrankz/32/468_2.png) [@tfrankz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfrankz)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2010, 6:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-12-5mcg/36632/4 "2010-03-01T06:37:47Z")
I would say a no for the P86 maybe P79 in place of P86 if anything! ---
**Author:** ![Mak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/dc4da7/32.png) [@Mak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mak)\ **Post date:** [March 1, 2010, 12:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-12-5mcg/36632/5 "2010-03-01T12:41:03Z")
1x TUTH has a quite ‘sharp’ effect, having something similar to a strong p79 component to it. 2x is quite different for some reason, much darker, not as effective - I steered away from a while ago.