# androstenone and working out initial thoughts **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 23, 2010, 3:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-and-working-out-initial-thoughts/41979 "2010-09-23T03:38:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Reclipse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reclipse/32/773_2.png) [@Reclipse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Reclipse)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 3:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-and-working-out-initial-thoughts/41979/1 "2010-09-23T03:38:03Z")
So my order of androstenone and a few other products finally made it’s way into my posession today. I was already wearing my recent daily work mix of 2 drops a314 + 1 spray 2.5 mcg p75 + 1 spray 30mcg p96 + 1 spray 50mcg A1 (this was a new addition today and I’m not sure I like it… seemed to detract a bit from the self assuredness that the p75 and a314 give me… but that’s not the point i’m trying to make). My day went pretty much as routine as it does until I got off and headed to boxing. On my way to the gym I decided to apply a spray of 2.5mcg Androstenone to the front of the throat at about 6:15 (15 minutes before my boxing class begins). Almost instantly I felt the phero rush and seemed to tense up a bit… almost a mild fight or flight syndrome feeling but not as intense… just amped up. I got into the gym and weighed in (240… down about 5 lbs from last friday boh!!!) and then changed into my workout gear. I noticed that I was actually somewhat sociable with one fo the girls I know in the class (married, probably a couple years older than me in the 32-34 range, attractive)… and she seemed to be pretty attentive towards me while talking. Start my jump rope warm ups and I had a great energy and focus… and I really was turning in the fuck on to get myself warmed up. Normally when this happens I’m spent by the end of class… but that would not be the case today. (side note, I had half of a neuro ‘gasm’ drink -[http://www.drinkneuro.com/neuro-gasm.php](http://www.drinkneuro.com/neuro-gasm.php) - all of the components are beneficial for working out so I’ve been drinking em before boxing to good use. I know the feeling i get from these and the -none impact was much greater). After getting through the warmups and dynamic stretching i linked up with someone I hadn’t worked with before but he was a great person to train with today. I noticed while I was going through the shadowboxing routines for the combos we were working on I had a fierce intensity… almost animalistic. I liked the feeling a LOT and just tapped into it to keep going. I pushed myself to the brink of puking a few times during the focus mitt rounds but kept on going. One of the things that I noticed as well was that I was in a very ‘take charge’ kind of mood. Not sure if this was attributed to the -none or not but it very well could be. I worked with my training partner on his mechanics and fundamentals and really saw a positive change in his demeanor and his dynamics/mechanics by the end of the class. He was hugely appreciative of the help. At the end of class we rocked it out with a shitload of situps/crunches but it seemed like nothing could tire me out. I got done and ran to the back to weight in again and I was down about 2.5 lbs from the sweating I had just done. This amped me up a bit more. On the way home I realized a significant rage aspect and a huge surge of energy. Even now that I’m home approx 2 hours after the initial app and after a grueling workout I’m fucking AMPED. I’m going to test this again on Friday, but not drink the neuro drink ahead of time. If the androstenone works like this for my workouts… i’m going to try to create a new mix specifically geared towards pushing me to my max effort levels. In some of the reading I did about androsAnone vs androstEnone, it says that Anone actually increases sensitivity to Enone. (Steve posted this in the a314+p75 mix thread - [Differential responses to odorant analogs after re… [Physiol Behav. 2002] - PubMed result](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12127006) - big thanks to Steve for the link as it’s an awesome read!) I’m wondering if my use of p75 (believed by many to be Anone) earlier today and over the past couple weeks has helped to increase my sensitivity to -Enone. I’m going to have to look into this further… and this is definitely a great thing to add to my p75 vs -Enone testing. Now I’m going to go bang out some pushups, shower, and do some work around the house in hopes of releasing this crazy energy I have. My girl is coming over later as well so she’s going to be a major target for taking out this aggression… in funnest and kinkiest ways LOL. cheers! ---
**Author:** ![empath](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/empath/32/2351_2.png) [@empath](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/empath)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 3:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-and-working-out-initial-thoughts/41979/2 "2010-09-23T03:46:08Z")
> [@Reclipse](#): > > So my order of androstenone and a few other products finally made it’s way into my posession today. > > I was already wearing my recent daily work mix of 2 drops a314 + 1 spray 2.5 mcg p75 + 1 spray 30mcg p96 + 1 spray 50mcg A1 (this was a new addition today and I’m not sure I like it… seemed to detract a bit from the self assuredness that the p75 and a314 give me… but that’s not the point i’m trying to make). > > My day went pretty much as routine as it does until I got off and headed to boxing. > > On my way to the gym I decided to apply a spray of 2.5mcg Androstenone to the front of the throat at about 6:15 (15 minutes before my boxing class begins). Almost instantly I felt the phero rush and seemed to tense up a bit… almost a mild fight or flight syndrome feeling but not as intense… just amped up. > > I got into the gym and weighed in (240… down about 5 lbs from last friday boh!!!) and then changed into my workout gear. I noticed that I was actually somewhat sociable with one fo the girls I know in the class (married, probably a couple years older than me in the 32-34 range, attractive)… and she seemed to be pretty attentive towards me while talking. > > Start my jump rope warm ups and I had a great energy and focus… and I really was turning in the fuck on to get myself warmed up. Normally when this happens I’m spent by the end of class… but that would not be the case today. (side note, I had half of a neuro ‘gasm’ drink -[http://www.drinkneuro.com/neuro-gasm.php](http://www.drinkneuro.com/neuro-gasm.php) - all of the components are beneficial for working out so I’ve been drinking em before boxing to good use. I know the feeling i get from these and the -none impact was much greater). > > After getting through the warmups and dynamic stretching i linked up with someone I hadn’t worked with before but he was a great person to train with today. I noticed while I was going through the shadowboxing routines for the combos we were working on I had a fierce intensity… almost animalistic. I liked the feeling a LOT and just tapped into it to keep going. I pushed myself to the brink of puking a few times during the focus mitt rounds but kept on going. > > One of the things that I noticed as well was that I was in a very ‘take charge’ kind of mood. Not sure if this was attributed to the -none or not but it very well could be. I worked with my training partner on his mechanics and fundamentals and really saw a positive change in his demeanor and his dynamics/mechanics by the end of the class. He was hugely appreciative of the help. > > At the end of class we rocked it out with a shitload of situps/crunches but it seemed like nothing could tire me out. I got done and ran to the back to weight in again and I was down about 2.5 lbs from the sweating I had just done. This amped me up a bit more. > > On the way home I realized a significant rage aspect and a huge surge of energy. > > Even now that I’m home approx 2 hours after the initial app and after a grueling workout I’m fucking AMPED. > > I’m going to test this again on Friday, but not drink the neuro drink ahead of time. If the androstenone works like this for my workouts… i’m going to try to create a new mix specifically geared towards pushing me to my max effort levels. > > In some of the reading I did about androsAnone vs androstEnone, it says that Anone actually increases sensitivity to Enone. (Steve posted this in the a314+p75 mix thread - [Differential responses to odorant analogs after re… [Physiol Behav. 2002] - PubMed result](http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12127006) - big thanks to Steve for the link as it’s an awesome read!) > > I’m wondering if my use of p75 (believed by many to be Anone) > earlier today and over the past couple weeks has helped to increase my sensitivity to -Enone. I’m going to have to look into this further… and this is definitely a great thing to add to my p75 vs -Enone testing. > > Now I’m going to go bang out some pushups, shower, and do some work around the house in hopes of releasing this crazy energy I have. My girl is coming over later as well so she’s going to be a major target for taking out this aggression… in funnest and kinkiest ways LOL. > > cheers! Nice report man! I’ve been looking to get some enone for a while now, just haven’t gotten through with current tests. I love the mones that just bring out any primal feelings… which I guess they all kind of do… but the ones that make you take charge and feel alpha are just right up my alley because that it what I’ve been trying to change myself into the last year… very successfully so far I might add. Hopefully I’ll be getting this in my next order… HOPEFULLY along with some [P130](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p130/)… I’m wondering if P130 would ‘cool out’ the enone rage as you put it 🙂 Great report, can’t wait to read more! ---
**Author:** ![K-Train](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/k-train/32/2253_2.png) [@K-Train](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/K-Train)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 3:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-and-working-out-initial-thoughts/41979/3 "2010-09-23T03:46:44Z")
Great report Reclipse. I’ve noticed that [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) does give a definite boost in workout energy, even when used alone. I think part of the reason is because P75 reduces negative self-talk which of course is detrimental to everything, including workouts. Once a person has no negative self-talk they can do more and are _willing_ to do more. I think that’s why P75 might give androstenone more kick, is because our inner voice is no longer holding us back and is _urging_ us to be who we are. Combine this with the “rage” boost from androstenone and you have wild man on the loose.😮 Also you’re combo of 2 drops a314 + 1 spray 2.5 mcg p75 + 1 spray 30mcg p96 + 1 spray 50mcg A1, how has that worked for you in the past? I’ve got all the ingredients except P96 so what do you recommend as a replacement? ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 3:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-and-working-out-initial-thoughts/41979/4 "2010-09-23T03:55:48Z")
Just FYI so you guys know Jasmin mentioned that [P75](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p75/) was NOT AndrostANONE, but chem structure more similar to P79 ---
**Author:** ![Reclipse](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/reclipse/32/773_2.png) [@Reclipse](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Reclipse)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 4:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-and-working-out-initial-thoughts/41979/5 "2010-09-23T04:01:30Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > Just FYI so you guys know > > Jasmin mentioned that P75 was NOT AndrostANONE, but chem structure more similar to P79 I know this… trust me. But the thing is… there are a LOT of other seasoned members of the forum who are in the p75 = Anone camp… and the more I test the p75 and now will be testing against the Enone… I too am starting to side w/ that camp. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 4:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-and-working-out-initial-thoughts/41979/6 "2010-09-23T04:04:41Z")
Before I heard this, I found that P75 didn’t have -none like effects from how I experienced it. With the exception of [Instant Jerk](https://a314.com/product/instant-jerk/), I’ve had negative effects from it so far. I get along better with the socials and 83/86. I got the -none split test pack that I’m going to compare with P75 soon so hopefully I’ll get a better understanding from it ---
**Author:** ![Maidenfan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Maidenfan01](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Maidenfan01)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 3:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-and-working-out-initial-thoughts/41979/7 "2010-09-23T15:33:00Z")
> [@P51Mustang](#): > > Before I heard this, I found that P75 didn’t have -none like effects from how I experienced it. With the exception of Instant Jerk, I’ve had negative effects from it so far. I get along better with the socials and 83/86. > > I got the -none split test pack that I’m going to compare with P75 soon so hopefully I’ll get a better understanding from it Looking forward to your comparisons. I don’t think [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) is a dirty version of -enone though, they keep replacing it in the store and it keeps giving the same results. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 3:36pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-and-working-out-initial-thoughts/41979/8 "2010-09-23T15:36:37Z")
> [@Maidenfan01](#): > > Looking forward to your comparisons. I don’t think P75 is a dirty version of -enone though, they keep replacing it in the store and it keeps giving the same results. I don’t think so either. But if it is AndrostANONE like a lot of people here think (me as well) then it should have qualities of ENONE, but I just don’t get it. I’ve tested it in social and work situations and it just doesn’t give me that feeling. The only way to really test is to get the stuff from the other guys. Which I’ll probably do sometime soon I’ve just been so busy testing the MX packs I haven’t gotten around to doing it yet. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2010, 3:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-and-working-out-initial-thoughts/41979/9 "2010-09-23T15:45:55Z")
Also from the readings I’ve gotten It was like the cross of a nol and -none Again I’m still relatively new to testing but it just doesn’t seem to click right.