# androstenone dosage

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-dosage/8236>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [January 12, 2008, 3:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-dosage/8236 "2008-01-12T03:42:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![Genesis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/genesis/32/440_2.png) [@Genesis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Genesis)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2008, 3:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-dosage/8236/1 "2008-01-12T03:42:09Z")

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i want to buy a heavy set of androstenone, but not sure how concentrated i want it to be. of course i want to buy a heavy chemset version so that i may dilute it, but not sure which dosage to get?

how much is in

ammo?  
turn up the heat?  
npa?  
the edge?  
mx103?

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**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2008, 3:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-dosage/8236/2 "2008-01-12T03:48:07Z")

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Hit Gegogi, Gone with the Wind, Mark-in-Dallas or SteveO up on this one to be sure but I think the answer is:

Regular [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/): 2.5 mcg buffered  
Regular TUTH: 2.5 mcg straight up  
MX103: not sure

The Edge and NPA are not androtics products but if you go to the pherolibrary it may shed some light although I am sure Gegogi knows as he uses both.

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**Author:** ![Genesis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/genesis/32/440_2.png) [@Genesis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Genesis)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2008, 5:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-dosage/8236/3 "2008-01-12T05:29:49Z")

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not sure which one i would get, but thanks for the heads up on ammo and tuth.

waiting for the experts to give me some input!

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**Author:** ![Genesis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/genesis/32/440_2.png) [@Genesis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Genesis)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2008, 5:40am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-dosage/8236/4 "2008-01-12T05:40:25Z")

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also, anyone know how much alpha nols is in cttm? i wanna try an order of heavy alpha nols, but not sure how much to get to dilute.

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**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2008, 9:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-dosage/8236/5 "2008-01-12T09:34:57Z")

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Yep, the phero library gives exact mones contents for many of the LS classics like TE, AE, NPA, Primal, SOE, etc. I found the product table useful for homebrew mixing and clone tweaks:

[http://pherolibrary.com/reference/product-table.html](http://pherolibrary.com/reference/product-table.html)

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2008, 9:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-dosage/8236/6 "2008-01-12T09:56:58Z")

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Both MX103 and CTTM are test products so they will not release how much mones are in them. Its not even confirmed the anone is in MX103 this is just speculation by members testing it so far.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![Genesis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/genesis/32/440_2.png) [@Genesis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Genesis)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2008, 10:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-dosage/8236/7 "2008-01-12T10:00:50Z")

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i’m a little confused about how the chart works. so npa would have about 4.8 mg of none for the 5 mL?

if so wouldn’t this mean it has 4800 mcg of none? lol i know this is wrong so just wondering.

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**Author:** ![Genesis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/genesis/32/440_2.png) [@Genesis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Genesis)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2008, 10:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-dosage/8236/8 "2008-01-12T10:01:47Z")

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> [@tisha23](#):
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> Both MX103 and CTTM are test products so they will not release how much pheromones are in them. Its not even confirmed the Androstenone is in MX103 this is just speculation by members testing it so far.
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> Tisha

thanks tisha! do you know how much alpha nols would be in the instant honesty then? i really appreciate the help.

seeing how spaceland has about 50 mcg/spray, if i were to test high dosages of alpha nols, what concentration do you guys recommend?

edit::: 50 mcg/spray of alpha nols is $88. spaceland is $48 lol. i think i should go with spaceland? but im not sure what othe rproducts are in spaceland. is there a difference in the alpha nols and spaceland?

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2008, 10:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-dosage/8236/9 "2008-01-12T10:22:07Z")

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> [@](#):
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> thanks tisha! do you know how much alpha nols would be in the [instant honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) then? i really appreciate the help.

YW. 15 mcg per spray 😉 Ih is beta nols not alpha.

IO is alpha nols, again 15 mcg per spray.

If you want to test them chem set style buy the straight anol and bnol in the experimone section. I would get them at least 25mcg per spray or more especially if you plan to dilute them.

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**Author:** ![Genesis](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/genesis/32/440_2.png) [@Genesis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Genesis)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2008, 10:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-dosage/8236/10 "2008-01-12T10:27:15Z")

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thanks tish! such fast responses =)

but since money is an issue for me lol. i was wondering if anyone knew the difference between spaceland and alpha nols by itself.

considering:  
spaceland:50mcg alpha nols = $48  
alpha nols:50mcg = $88

and aside from that, spaceland is said to have a “fun” [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) as well, i’m thinking it’s tah or something, but not sure if that would even affect it.

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**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2008, 10:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-dosage/8236/11 "2008-01-12T10:39:06Z")

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Spaceland contains a special co-factor, or so they call it. Its undisclosed because its a test product.

Good question on why such a price difference on the product since you would think that Spaceland which has something extra would cost more. I am unsure of the anwser but I am assuming since its experimental they are selling it at cost for testing purposes as opposed to the experimones which are for the advanced person who wants to mix and they must sell those with a profit margin.

Keep in mind once a product go’s to consumer it wont be cheap anymore. Hence the big deal about testing and reporting results.

Tisha

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**Author:** ![mark-in-dallas](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mark-in-dallas/32/860_2.png) [@mark-in-dallas](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mark-in-dallas)\
**Post date:** [January 12, 2008, 5:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-dosage/8236/12 "2008-01-12T17:12:29Z")

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> [@tisha23](#):
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> Keep in mind once a product go’s to consumer it wont be cheap anymore. Hence the big deal about testing and reporting results.
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> Tisha

Tisha, they may not be cheap as in sold at cost or at a loss, but when compared to most other products out there and how much bang-for-the-buck you get, I still think they are a steal! 😃

Genesis, as to the None content in The Edge and NPA, it’s hard to say because both are rumoured to have 1 secret ingredient. If you are looking for straight Androstenone, either Turn Up The Heat or Androstenone (XNONE) from the smartmones experimone series is your best bet.

As to CTTM2, I believe that it contains equal parts A & B Androstenol, but I do not know the concentration level.
