# Androstenone receptor? **URL:** \ **Category:** Pheromone Theory & Molecules\ **Created:** [September 17, 2007, 1:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-receptor/5567 "2007-09-17T01:21:08Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![jvkohl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jvkohl/32/1297_2.png) [@jvkohl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jvkohl)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2007, 1:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-receptor/5567/1 "2007-09-17T01:21:08Z")
[Stinky? It’s not his sweat, it’s your nose - Yahoo! News](http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070916/sc_nm/genes_odor_dc_2;_ylt=Aqn8eVxI67iw3c7W.o_a9DIE1vAI) “There is some evidence published showing this chemical can modify the mood or hormone levels in humans,” he said. “What we don’t know is whether the receptor we found was in any way involved in this process.” I don’t know about any published evidence showing that this chemical can modify hormone levels in humans, or about any published evidence showing a positive effect on mood (just a less negative impact on the mood of women who are ovulating.) But maybe I missed something. [RU Newswire: Gene determines whether male body odor smells pleasant](http://newswire.rockefeller.edu/?page=engine&id=660) James V. Kohl The Scent of Eros ---
**Author:** ![snook\_assassin](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snook_assassin/32/1107_2.png) [@snook\_assassin](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/snook_assassin)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2007, 2:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-receptor/5567/2 "2007-09-17T02:14:22Z")
HA! And some of those quacks say the VNO doesn’t work anymore! can anyone say Boo-yah??? ---
**Author:** ![Phoenix](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/phoenix/32/673_2.png) [@Phoenix](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Phoenix)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2007, 10:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-receptor/5567/3 "2007-09-17T10:52:12Z")
The article doesn’t seem to mention the VNO directly of course.. Here’s a page mentioning the VNO on the other hand.. not sure how accurate it is.. [Great Moments in Science - Sex Organ Up Your Nose](http://www.abc.net.au/science/k2/moments/s292413.htm) ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [September 17, 2007, 3:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-receptor/5567/4 "2007-09-17T15:08:09Z")
> [@jvkohl](#): > > I don’t know about any published evidence showing that this chemical can modify hormone levels in humans, or about any published evidence showing a positive effect on mood (just a less negative impact on the mood of women who are ovulating.) But maybe I missed something. > James V. Kohl > The Scent of Eros Could they be talking about anecdotal evidence (even though it doesn’t appear that way)? Anecdotal evidence gathered in the [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) forums suggest that Androstenone definitely does something. Most users now unanimously believe that it signals aggression and dominance. Now I believe if we were to ask women how they would perceive a man who was being aggressive towards them and trying to dominate them, most of them would probably respond as the feeling ranging from very negative to maybe neutral (depending on the type of women and probably also their stage in the ovulation cycles). It has been documented how aggression in males correlates to higher mating access in primates (from what I recall from reading Buss’ Evolution of Desire). Maybe being exposed to androstenone is similar to being exposed to an aggressive man. The demonstration that androstenone evokes those negative to neutral emotions is by the above reasoning kind of expected. What do you think? ---
**Author:** ![jvkohl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jvkohl/32/1297_2.png) [@jvkohl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jvkohl)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 12:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-receptor/5567/5 "2007-09-18T00:35:51Z")
> [@nbully79](#): > > What do you think? I’ll request a copy of the article before commenting further, after I’ve read it. James V. Kohl The Scent of Eros ---
**Author:** ![jvkohl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jvkohl/32/1297_2.png) [@jvkohl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jvkohl)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2007, 5:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-receptor/5567/6 "2007-09-20T05:53:43Z")
> [@snook\_assassin](#): > > HA! And some of those quacks say the VNO doesn’t work anymore! can anyone say Boo-yah??? From the article: “Recent expression analysis shows that OR7D4 is selectively expressed in human nasal epithelium.” Citation: Zhang, X. et al. Characterizing the expression of the human olfactory receptor gene family using a novel DNA microarray. Genome Biol. 8, R86 (2007). Once again, there appears to be no support for the concept that human [pheromones](https://a314.com/) act through what appears to be a non-existent human VNO. James V. Kohl `http://www.pheromones.com` ---
**Author:** ![smn1234](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/smn1234/32/2430_2.png) [@smn1234](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/smn1234)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2007, 8:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-receptor/5567/7 "2007-09-20T20:21:14Z")
break this down for me doc ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [September 20, 2007, 9:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-receptor/5567/8 "2007-09-20T21:21:34Z")
> [@smn1234](#): > > break this down for me doc I ain’t the doc, but “nasal epithelium” means “nose skin” meaning the skin that lines the inside of the nose. Then of course, there is always “Cranial Nerve 0”, but that’s a different discussion. Hope that helps.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![jvkohl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jvkohl/32/1297_2.png) [@jvkohl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jvkohl)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2007, 2:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-receptor/5567/9 "2007-09-21T02:03:09Z")
> [@Mtnjim](#): > > I ain’t the doc, but “nasal epithelium” means “nose skin” meaning the skin that lines the inside of the nose. Then of course, there is always “Cranial Nerve 0”, but that’s a different discussion. > > Hope that helps.🙂 It certainly helped me. Thanks for explaining it in words that more people can understand. Did you read the article on Cranial Nerve Zero that I was interviewed for? It’s not necessarily a different discussion; more like one that’s hovering on the sidelines, along with TAAR’s --all of which make debate over a human VNO a waste of time–as does the most recent article on the androstenone (and androstadienone) receptor. But according to some, not currently present on this Forum, my debate style reflects only my ego–not my knowledge base. James V. Kohl The Scent of Eros ---
**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2007, 5:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-receptor/5567/10 "2007-09-21T17:07:12Z")
> [@jvkohl](#): > > …Did you read the article on Cranial Nerve Zero that I was interviewed for? … Was it the one in _Scientific American Mind_? The one about the whale? If so, I posted about it here and there. ---
**Author:** ![jvkohl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jvkohl/32/1297_2.png) [@jvkohl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jvkohl)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2007, 2:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-receptor/5567/11 "2007-09-22T02:28:08Z")
> [@Mtnjim](#): > > Was it the one in _Scientific American Mind_? The one about the whale? If so, I posted about it here and there. Thanks for the hint. It followed the whale/cranial nerve article and was distributed by the Columbia News Service. [Little-known nerve may be secret to lust — JSCMS](http://jscms.jrn.columbia.edu/cns/2007-04-24/russell-sexnerve) James V. Kohl `http://www.pheromones.com` ---
**Author:** ![jvkohl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jvkohl/32/1297_2.png) [@jvkohl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jvkohl)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2007, 1:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-receptor/5567/12 "2007-10-08T01:21:47Z")
Follow-up article for a general audience: [Scent of a Man: ScienCentral Video News](http://www.sciencentral.com/articles/view.php3?type=article&article_id=218393001) James V. Kohl The Scent of Eros ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [October 8, 2007, 4:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-receptor/5567/13 "2007-10-08T16:42:49Z")
Funniest story ever from the link posted by JVKohl “We got an email from a woman who told us a story that she has a female pet pig and that one day the pig was in heat and it disappeared. And she went searching for it and found it among a group of sweaty construction workers at a nearby house and she told us that she thinks it’s the androstenone odor of these men that attracted her pig.” > [@jvkohl](#): > > Follow-up article for a general audience: > > [Scent of a Man: ScienCentral Video News](http://www.sciencentral.com/articles/view.php3?type=article&article_id=218393001) > > James V. Kohl > The Scent of Eros ---
**Author:** ![jvkohl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jvkohl/32/1297_2.png) [@jvkohl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jvkohl)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2007, 11:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-receptor/5567/14 "2007-10-09T23:38:32Z")
> [@nbully79](#): > > Funniest story ever from the link posted by JVKohl > > “We got an email from a woman who told us a story that she has a female pet pig and that one day the pig was in heat and it disappeared. And she went searching for it and found it among a group of sweaty construction workers at a nearby house and she told us that she thinks it’s the androstenone odor of these men that attracted her pig.” Some might consider this tragedy. Anyone who wants to keep their “pig” at home, may need to learn more about species-specific pheromones to avoid potential losses. James V. Kohl `http://www.pheromones.com` ---
**Author:** ![nbully79](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c68b51/32.png) [@nbully79](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/nbully79)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2007, 10:57pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-receptor/5567/15 "2007-11-08T22:57:52Z")
An excerpt from JVKohl’s book: Scent of Eros It mentions the experiment done at U. of Manchester in UK with men who sniffed Androstenone rating women much higher on the attractiveness scale. So there seems to be some study on androstenone’s effect on mood, but alas not when sniffed by women. [The Scent of Eros: Mysteries of Odor … - Google Book Search](http://books.google.com/books?id=Iz_7FahU7VkC&pg=PA68&lpg=PA68&dq=androstenol&source=web&ots=aK93WAZvfB&sig=GloFeihuo4jbPFbCrxgHd9yAt7I#PPA68,M1)