# Androstenone replacement in a mix? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 25, 2009, 2:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-replacement-in-a-mix/31853 "2009-08-25T02:01:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 2:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-replacement-in-a-mix/31853/1 "2009-08-25T02:01:13Z")
I was just wondering if anyone has tried replacing androstenone in a mix with something like P80 or [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/)? I’ve read a lot on the forums about people testing those individual molecules but I’m curious because I’m thinking of trying P80 in a mix to replace androstenone. ---
**Author:** ![tfrankz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tfrankz/32/468_2.png) [@tfrankz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfrankz)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 2:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-replacement-in-a-mix/31853/2 "2009-08-25T02:24:18Z")
Are you making your own made mix or spraying on a combo? Do you have [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/)? ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 2:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-replacement-in-a-mix/31853/3 "2009-08-25T02:26:52Z")
> [@tfrankz](#): > > Are you making your own made mix or spraying on a combo? Do you have P83? I am planning on my own composite (home made potion). Yup, I do have [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/). ---
**Author:** ![tfrankz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/tfrankz/32/468_2.png) [@tfrankz](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tfrankz)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 2:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-replacement-in-a-mix/31853/4 "2009-08-25T02:45:47Z")
If you want to take your mix in the P83 direction, use just a little of None and use P83. Just don’t make a lot. Small batch to see if it is what you are looking for. It has made some fun nights at the clubs with those two added in a mix! I think I have [P75](https://a314.com/product/p75/) but forgot about it. Got to test that one again! ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 3:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-replacement-in-a-mix/31853/5 "2009-08-25T03:03:42Z")
> [@tfrankz](#): > > If you want to take your mix in the P83 direction, use just a little of None and use P83. Just don’t make a lot. Small batch to see if it is what you are looking for. It has made some fun nights at the clubs with those two added in a mix! > > I think I have P75 but forgot about it. Got to test that one again! I totally agree that [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) and androstenone play very well together. I usually add Meo-Est and it provides a level of comfort that pushes things forward very nicely! ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 3:21pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-replacement-in-a-mix/31853/6 "2009-08-25T15:21:42Z")
I suggest 2.5 mcg of P75 and 12.5 mcg of [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) together as a baseline. That should be a fairly good analog… I’ll have to test this… hmmmm… I smell a pherosperiment coming on! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2009, 11:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-replacement-in-a-mix/31853/7 "2009-08-25T23:02:36Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > I suggest 2.5 mcg of P75 and 12.5 mcg of P85 together as a baseline. That should be a fairly good analog… I’ll have to test this… hmmmm… I smell a pherosperiment coming on! 😃 Excellent, thanks! I’m off to check out P85 since I’m unfamiliar with that one. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![catlord17](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@catlord17](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/catlord17)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 12:12am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-replacement-in-a-mix/31853/8 "2009-08-26T00:12:10Z")
> [@Snoopyace](#): > > Excellent, thanks! I’m off to check out P85 since I’m unfamiliar with that one. 🙂 Aw shucks, did I say P85? I meant [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/). I’ll change it. Sorry. :o ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 12:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-replacement-in-a-mix/31853/9 "2009-08-26T00:26:29Z")
> [@catlord17](#): > > Aw shucks, did I say P85? I meant P83. I’ll change it. Sorry. :o Ahhh, okay. I LOVE using [P83](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p83/) in different things. Amazing what adding a little ‘human velcro effect’ can do! So have you had any experience with P80? From what I’ve read it has somewhat similar effects to ~none. That is why I’d considered giving it a try. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 12:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-replacement-in-a-mix/31853/10 "2009-08-26T00:47:00Z")
I’ve had some success using androstanone in lieu of androstenone: it has many of the benefits of androstenone but without most of the repelling properties. I’d describe it as sorta a “social” androstenone: almost like adding a strong zap of androstenol to NPA or TE. I’ve also used androstanone as a buffer for androstenone and it seemed to mellow it a bit without choking out the horny. Ultimately, I decided it was too much effort and expense for small effect as I’m one of those guys able to wear vast amounts of androstenone to no ill effect. ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [August 26, 2009, 12:55am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-replacement-in-a-mix/31853/11 "2009-08-26T00:55:48Z")
Thanks! Off to the ‘other’ place to check that out.