# Androstenone... sexually aggressive attractant **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 26, 2008, 10:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-sexually-aggressive-attractant/24258 "2008-12-26T10:28:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 10:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-sexually-aggressive-attractant/24258/1 "2008-12-26T10:28:52Z")
I’m finding something out that is pretty surprising about Androstenone, but so far has been consistent. When I wear a very small amount of Androstenone, coupled with Copulins, it works as a pretty aggressive sexual attractant for my husband. I had that suspicious because he became more sexually aggressive when I had it on. But I wasn’t sure that the Androstenone was what was making the difference… so I tested it out. I’ve used TUTH, Edge Gel/w, and dilute Androstenone at different times, covered with cops/Pink Sugar mix. I’ve also tested it without cops, using plain Pink Sugar as cover. It is the mix of the two and _low_ dose of Androstenone that seems to do the trick. To test it out, and to rule out other factors, every night for the last two weeks after my husband has gone to sleep, I’ve put Androstenone (either TUTH, Edge Gel/W, or dilute Androstenone (1.3 mcg/spray) on the back of the thumb on each hand. On my left hand I’ve covered with Pink Sugar alone, and on the right I covered with Pink Sugar containing EOW (approx 1 drops Copulins/spray). I use 1 spray Pink Sugar or Pink Sugar/Cops mix only as cover. I chose my hands because they were easily covered and exposed, one at a time. Neither of us was wearing Androstenone in any other location. When I expose my left hand (no cops), approximately 4 breaths in, my husband shakes his head and turns away from me. When I cover that hand and expose the right, after approximately the same amounts of breaths, he turns towards me, pulls me in tight and either throws his leg over me, pinning me to the bed, or he grinds up against me. He also vocalizes and gets an immediate erection. He never wakes up during any of this. He responds more persistently with either the 1.3 mcg/spray Androstenone and cops or a very small amount of Edge Gel/w and cops. The dosage in TUTH might be too high (mine is 5.0 mcg/spray). His sleeping responses with the Androstenone/Cops were consistent, even after sex. One Caveat, I’ve also been wearing Est. I’m not sure if that makes a difference, but Est probably increases his feelings of possessiveness, if my understanding of this [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) is correct. Also, he doesn’t respond this way to copulins, alone. My thought is that perhaps he’s instinctively reacting to the scent of a competing male in the vicinity. I also think if I were younger, the cops would be unnecessary for this reaction, since I’d be producing more normally. I’m pretty pleased that using essentially only one drop EOW is effective. Any thoughts? Diane ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 11:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-sexually-aggressive-attractant/24258/2 "2008-12-26T11:59:24Z")
Great report Diane, Most the women find the same thing which is why we like to use a few dabs of TUTH on the upper lip as well in in mixes, A tiny bit of anone gives a nice aggressive kick to a sexual mix. Your should read some of countesszeros posts, she has it down to a art form 😃 Tisha ---
**Author:** ![countesszero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/countesszero/32/1392_2.png) [@countesszero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/countesszero)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 4:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-sexually-aggressive-attractant/24258/3 "2008-12-26T16:46:05Z")
Yes you should try the Pre-release Dirty. It’s Cops and Androstenone. Everytime I wear it my husband has an instant woody and literally attacks me. Like Tisha said there are some post about it around here somewhere. I still have a half full bottle of Dirty. I don’t use too much because it makes the hubby the energizer bunny. ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [December 26, 2008, 6:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-sexually-aggressive-attractant/24258/4 "2008-12-26T18:44:00Z")
Thanks, Ladies! Nice I could confirm that. Well, I guess until Androtics gets or makes more copulins, Dirty will be out of stock. Has anyone heard anything more about if/when copulins will be back here? This is a long time to be out. And what about EOW? Are they still having issues with potency? I’m almost out of my old bottle of EOW. But now I’m really hesitating ordering anything more from LS. I recently ordered another 10.0 mL of Est from LS and I got a fully sealed 10 mL bottle with only 5 mL in it! Gah! Where is quality control? And: “HEY, SANTA! DID YOU BRING ANDROTICS ANY COPS?!!” Diane ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 5:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-sexually-aggressive-attractant/24258/5 "2008-12-27T05:31:32Z")
> [@](#): > > Has anyone heard anything more about if/when copulins will be back here? This is a long time to be out. I agree Diane it has been a long time and it really sucks plain and simple. It makes it hard to correctly refer people to the product that would fit there needs best in the intro section. Alot of times the situation calls for LAM and the low cop formulas while excellent dont pack that same punch. I hope this is resolved very soon. There was nothing wrong with the old formula in my opinion. It was smelly but copulins smell, its what they do and it worked. I think they should have stuck with the old formula while exploring new copulin alternatives. Another thing that concerns me is that I know alot of the ladies mixes have small amounts of copulins in them. Are the cops being left out of the mixes in the new batches? Tisha ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 5:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-sexually-aggressive-attractant/24258/6 "2008-12-27T05:47:35Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > I agree Diane it has been a long time and it really sucks plain and simple. It makes it hard to correctly refer people to the product that would fit there needs best in the intro section. Alot of times the situation calls for LAM and the low cop formulas while excellent dont pack that same punch. > > I hope this is resolved very soon. There was nothing wrong with the old formula in my opinion. It was smelly but copulins smell, its what they do and it worked. I think they should have stuck with the old formula while exploring new copulin alternatives. > > Another thing that concerns me is that I know alot of the ladies mixes have small amounts of copulins in them. Are the cops being left out of the mixes in the new batches? > > Tisha All very valid concerns, and I’ve been wondering the same. If you find out anything, let us know. Are there any good alternatives to EOW? Diane ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [December 27, 2008, 6:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-sexually-aggressive-attractant/24258/7 "2008-12-27T06:23:07Z")
> [@diane999](#): > > _ **All very valid concerns, and I’ve been wondering the same. If you find out anything, let us know.** _ Hmm, makes ya wonder. > [@](#): > > _ **Are there any good alternatives to EOW?** _ Hey, Di. SugarSpice says try straight vinegar. For what it’s worth here’s the link, to Sugar’s journal post, about it. You need to take a stroll through there anyways. 😉 I love that SugarSpiceSugar! 😃 You will too. She’s also a big fan of MEO-EST. Welcome to “SugarSpice’s Secrets To Attraction” - > [@SugarSpice's Secrets to Attraction](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/sugarspices-secrets-to-attraction/10457): > > Ok ladies, I’m going to share with you some of my experiences, and observation in the art of attraction. Attraction begins with your body, how you walk, stand and present your attitude. From far away, that is what a man sees first. He’s got to be drawn in enough to recognize “oooh woman, me need to look closer.” If your clothes make you look feminine you can always win over the slutty look, no matter how revealing that other woman is. Cleavage does not equal quality attention. Women who are v… Enjoy. Bella ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 8:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-sexually-aggressive-attractant/24258/8 "2008-12-28T20:45:53Z")
> [@](#): > > My thought is that perhaps he’s instinctively reacting to the scent of a competing male in the vicinity. I also think if I were younger, the cops would be unnecessary for this reaction, since I’d be producing more normally. I’m pretty pleased that using essentially only one drop EOW is effective. I don’t think so. Androstenone is a human mone, and not exclusively male, although males typically produce much more Androstenone than women. I’ve had a couple gym rat GFs and, yes, they smelled like Androstenone naturally, especially down there. I think they had more than me (could also kick my ass). I was a little grossed out at first but strangely and wildly turned on at the same time. ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 9:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-sexually-aggressive-attractant/24258/9 "2008-12-28T21:22:28Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > I don’t think so. Androstenone is a human mone, and not exclusively male, although males typically produce much more Androstenone than women. I’ve had a couple gym rat GFs and, yes, they smelled like Androstenone naturally, especially down there. I think they had more than me (could also kick my ass). I was a little grossed out at first but strangely and wildly turned on at the same time. So, what are you saying? What is it that you don’t think so? I know from my tests that Androstenone alone doesn’t get the same response from my husband, and neither does Cops alone. It is the two together that do the trick. And, yes, young women produce more cops, especially at ovulation time. So, what are you disagreeing with? I’ve personally never smelled like Androstenone, nor has any of the women I’ve known. Are you sure you are not confusing general, unclean, dirty funk with Androstenone? The two don’t smell the same to me. Diane ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 9:44pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-sexually-aggressive-attractant/24258/10 "2008-12-28T21:44:21Z")
What he is probably saying is that its not the smell of a competeing male. Even though you have the cops on one hand and the anone on another he can still smell both to a certain extent. Perhaps the pink sugar caused the reaction or it wasnt the right dosage of cops. He also possibly needed a little time to process his feelings. Still a fun excellent test though. I wanna try it, on my hubby not yours LOL 😛 😉 Have you tried the test with one night using just anone and the next using just cops ? > [@](#): > > I’ve personally never smelled like Androstenone, nor has any of the women I’ve known. Are you sure you are not confusing general, unclean, dirty funk with Androstenone? The two don’t smell the same to me. Women do make some anone and once your accustomed to smelling it all the time you can recognize it. More so on a more masculinely built women. Women and men generally process the smell of it differently. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [December 28, 2008, 10:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-sexually-aggressive-attractant/24258/11 "2008-12-28T22:38:44Z")
Tisha wrote an excellent response so I won’t try to spin out a variant. I will recommend a great book for further study, James Vaughn Kohl’s _Scent of Eros._ It covers the basics of mone production and expounds on how production is influenced by age, sex, race, physical fitness, etc. And it’s in layman’s terms and easy to understand. If you’ve ever tried to read any of his peer refereed science journal articles, you’ll greatly appreciate the “translation.” And, yes, these girls were freshly showered and scrubbed raw, and were not fresh from a workout or marathon! The point is, a small amount of androstenone on a woman indicates to a male you are healthy and fit, i.e., ready to make babies. Although some men like their women dirty, I’m from the fresh shower school. And, yes, I am one of those guys blessed/cursed with a very sensitive nose and can easily detect small amounts of androstenone. It may be because I’m East Asian and we produce very little of it. I recall when young having difficultly being around males from other races because their androstenone output was so overwhelming. Gyms and locker rooms actually gave me a headache. I’ve gotten used to it, especially after wearing it for 5 years. ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [December 29, 2008, 5:14am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-sexually-aggressive-attractant/24258/12 "2008-12-29T05:14:13Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Tisha wrote an excellent response so I won’t try to spin out a variant. I will recommend a great book for further study, James Vaughn Kohl’s _Scent of Eros._ It covers the basics of mone production and expounds on how production is influenced by age, sex, race, physical fitness, etc. And it’s in layman’s terms and easy to understand. If you’ve ever tried to read any of his peer refereed science journal articles, you’ll greatly appreciate the “translation.” > > And, yes, these girls were freshly showered and scrubbed raw, and were not fresh from a workout or marathon! The point is, a small amount of androstenone on a woman indicates to a male you are healthy and fit, i.e., ready to make babies. Although some men like their women dirty, I’m from the fresh shower school. > > And, yes, I am one of those guys blessed/cursed with a very sensitive nose and can easily detect small amounts of androstenone. It may be because I’m East Asian and we produce very little of it. I recall when young having difficultly being around males from other races because their androstenone output was so overwhelming. Gyms and locker rooms actually gave me a headache. I’ve gotten used to it, especially after wearing it for 5 years. Ah, gotcha! My husband and I are both 48, caucasian, so I guess we are both either used to androstenone or insensitive to its smell in the “normal” range. I still find it interesting that he is turned off and turned away by the same amount of Androstenone that interests him when a little (1-2 drop) cops are added. Diane