# Androstenone very tricky in humid climates **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [December 18, 2009, 11:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-very-tricky-in-humid-climates/34937 "2009-12-18T11:43:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 2\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![mahalo\_silver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8dc957/32.png) [@mahalo\_silver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mahalo_silver)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 11:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-very-tricky-in-humid-climates/34937/1 "2009-12-18T11:43:06Z")
So the Australian summer has become quite humid. Every time i wear an A-None mix in this humidity, i am having moderate to bad experiences…I am re-educating myself the hard way, lots of trial and error, mostly error… Combinations that served me well all winter r now causing quite bad ghosting and o’diing on minimal sprays…i have seen the common malady and its name is A-None. examples of excellent combo’s in normal or moderate climates that have badly misfired in the humid heat recently are: [in addition to using mild muscle-building supplements like Spirulina, Whey protein, Tribulus]. 1. ammo/IG/p83 2. AE/IShine/IH 3. 1 humble spray of AMMO in 35 degree heat 4. AE/mx200 5. 1 shot of [Mystery Boy](https://a314.com/product/mystery-boy/) - horrible, horrible night. Some points regarding _ **diffusion in humid or tropical heat** _ [dry heat not as tricky]: 1.“_ **step out into the fresh air** _” - My friend was ghosting terribly in a very sweaty, diffusive nite club. as soon as he stepped out into the fresh air, the girls were responding much better. Excalibur cover scent [lasts a long time]/ p83/ 1 drop of A7 were worn. 2. “_ **oil forms of A-none, not sprays"..** _…Oil form Androstenone products like A7 or Dirty Oil or Raw Power oil r so much safer in humidity. When u r constantly sweating in a humid climate, i have found even 1 or 2 sprays of Ammo or a dash of Alter Ego r too much. The girls become very **intimidated by the extermely quick diffusion** … Stick to oils. 3. _ **"stick to socials or A-rone** _”…therefore, the only reliable system ive found in the humid heat is to avoid Androstenone alltogether and stick to A314. It is always consistent in, at the very least, never having a “bad” experience with it. 4. “_ **more sweat = more natural A-none production** _”…Natural levels of A-none may be optimised naturally in humidity because u r producing that much more sweat, [as opposed to cold climates], therefore **adding synthetics** may be too much… 5. "_ **working out and taking testosterone enhancers, protein supplements or any other product used to enhance work-outs will further optimise your natural production of A-none, and thus in humid climates…"…** _ I have learnt the hard way to take this into consideration before applying A-none products. Therefore, I have to factor in this increased natural production, and be _ **very very cautious** _ of its useage, after a workout, with my supplementation, and in the humidity. Ive been angry with myself in trying to figure out the various reasons why these products cause me so many problems in this seasonal heat, and have often thought: “geeze, im better off just waiting till it cools down abit before taking the risks with A-none”… another of my major concepts is that **if u already have a great, natural chemistry and physical compability with a girl, then -mones rnt gonna do “that much” to enhance what is already a great attraction.** to me atleast, _ **they r more useful with people that u wouldnt normally have a connection with, colleagues at work u need to get along with, self-improvement, etc.** _…which for me has brought issues of girls flaking on me when i havent got the girl on the night while she was “under the -mone influence”, so to speak…with a natural attraction, well she’s obviously digging my natural pheromone output anyway, among many other attraction switches, and synthetics may just be superfluous to my needs, or even abit risky when u already know shes attracted. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [December 18, 2009, 11:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androstenone-very-tricky-in-humid-climates/34937/2 "2009-12-18T11:52:50Z")
Yeah, I think you’re right. The reason for your ghosting is because the heat was diffusing the alcohol based Androstenone WAY too fast. Definitely oil is much better when it’s that hot, but have you tried applying a bit of baby oil or body oil under your spray applications? I THINK that actually makes it diffuse a bit slower from previous testing. However, many factors still apply. Also, for good measure a shot of Alpha Androstenol will definitely soften that heavy -none vibe, but then you have to worry about that converting to -none in climates that are that hot and humid. > [@mahalo\_silver](#): > > So the Australian summer has become quite humid. Every time i wear an A-None mix in this humidity, i am having moderate to bad experiences…I am re-educating myself the hard way, lots of trial and error, mostly error… > > Combinations that served me well all winter r now causing quite bad ghosting and o’diing on minimal sprays…i have seen the common malady and its name is A-None. > > examples of excellent combo’s in normal or moderate climates that have badly misfired in the humid heat recently are: [in addition to using mild muscle-building supplements like Spirulina, Whey protein, Tribulus]. > > 1. ammo/IG/p83 > 2. AE/IS/IH > 3. 1 humble spray of AMMO in 35 degree heat > 4. AE/mx200 > 5. 1 shot of Mystery Boy - horrible, horrible night. > > Some points regarding _ **diffusion in humid or tropical heat** _ [dry heat not as tricky]: > > 1.“_ **step out into the fresh air** _” - My friend was ghosting terribly in a very sweaty, diffusive nite club. as soon as he stepped out into the fresh air, the girls were responding much better. Excalibur cover scent [lasts a long time]/ p83/ 1 drop of A7 were worn. > 2. “_ **oil forms of A-none, not sprays"..** _…Oil form Androstenone products like A7 or Dirty Oil or Raw Power oil r so much safer in humidity. When u r constantly sweating in a humid climate, i have found even 1 or 2 sprays of Ammo or a dash of Alter Ego r too much. The girls become very **intimidated by the extermely quick diffusion** … Stick to oils. > 3. _ **"stick to socials or A-rone** _”…therefore, the only reliable system ive found in the humid heat is to avoid Androstenone alltogether and stick to A314. It is always consistent in, at the very least, never having a “bad” experience with it. > 4. “_ **more sweat = more natural A-none production** _”…Natural levels of A-none may be optimised naturally in humidity because u r producing that much more sweat, [as opposed to cold climates], therefore **adding synthetics** may be too much… > 5. "_ **working out and taking testosterone enhancers, protein supplements or any other product used to enhance work-outs will further optimise your natural production of A-none, and thus in humid climates…"…** _ I have learnt the hard way to take this into consideration before applying A-none products. > > Therefore, I have to factor in this increased natural production, and be _ **very very cautious** _ of its useage, after a workout, with my supplementation, and in the humidity. > > Ive been angry with myself in trying to figure out the various reasons why these products cause me so many problems in this seasonal heat, and have often thought: “geeze, im better off just waiting till it cools down abit before taking the risks with A-none”… > > another of my major concepts is that **if u already have a great, natural chemistry and physical compability with a girl, then -mones rnt gonna do “that much” to enhance what is already a great attraction.** to me atleast, _ **they r more useful with people that u wouldnt normally have a connection with, colleagues at work u need to get along with, self-improvement, etc.** _…which for me has brought issues of girls flaking on me when i havent got the girl on the night while she was “under the -mone influence”, so to speak…with a natural attraction, well she’s obviously digging my natural pheromone output anyway, among many other attraction switches, and synthetics may just be superfluous to my needs, or even abit risky when u already know shes attracted.