# Androtics Debut in York UK. **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [January 15, 2008, 11:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-debut-in-york-uk/8316 "2008-01-15T11:10:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![00greena](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/00greena/32/2065_2.png) [@00greena](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/00greena)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 11:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-debut-in-york-uk/8316/1 "2008-01-15T11:10:55Z")
Ive recieved my products today. Ih, Ishine, ammo, turn up the heat, Ijerk, Iopenness. tonights setting is in a car with a girl i have known a long time.we have a flirty playful relationship. can an experienced member tip me on a mix that will assist me in taking the relationship to a subconcious, instincual attraction level. suggestions? ---
**Author:** ![runnerxvr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@runnerxvr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/runnerxvr)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 12:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-debut-in-york-uk/8316/2 "2008-01-15T12:49:00Z")
Hello 00greena! I see that you bought many pretty things! Congratulations!!! As I don’t know how you react to pheros and I laso don’t know how your relationship is, I’d suggest you to start with Instant Shine and [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/). Of coruse, the advice for the starters is “start with a spray per time”. Anyway, I never noticed any “big” effect with just 1 spray. So, I could suggest one or two of Shine and a couple of IOpenness. Or maybe AMMO, but I didn’t have big results with it. I prefer Turn Up The Heat, as I think it’s better buffered for me. Who knows? Anyway, I wish you GOOD LUCK with your date!!! Keep us updated!!! See ya Franz ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 12:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-debut-in-york-uk/8316/3 "2008-01-15T12:56:59Z")
I know you want to mix it up right away but go with one product to start. We do suggest one spray to start but as runner said no one usually finds there sweet spot at one except with Turn Up The Heat. I suggest using [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) 2 sprays first. One to hair and one to upper chest. If you really really cant stand the wait and want to go with more then one in typical pheromone baptism fashion 😃 Then I would try 1 shot of ammo to chest 2 shots of Instant shine. 2 shots of IH. WAIT LOL Just noticed your going to be in a car. Scale down to one shot of each because you will see increased effects in the car since its so enclosed. Good luck have fun Tisha ---
**Author:** ![runnerxvr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/35a633/32.png) [@runnerxvr](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/runnerxvr)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 1:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-debut-in-york-uk/8316/4 "2008-01-15T13:04:28Z")
Tisha is right (as she always is), I forgot too that you were in car!!! Yeah, she’s right with the amount, keep low or you’ll turn it into a phero gas-chamber!!! Tisha is the sexiest!!! Tisha is the wisest!!! ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 1:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-debut-in-york-uk/8316/5 "2008-01-15T13:11:06Z")
> [@](#): > > Tisha is the sexiest!!! > Tisha is the wisest!!! Lordy Thank you, your making me have to fan myself LOL 😉 ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 1:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-debut-in-york-uk/8316/6 "2008-01-15T13:41:16Z")
Ahhh - go for Tisha’s original recommendation - 1 Ammo, 2 Instant Shine, 2 [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/). The danger here is … over-success! She may never stop talking … even on a deeper level. You may hear things you don’t want to hear. But then again - you may end up where you wanna be. Oh Noooo - I am going against my usual recommendation of start slow and build up. Then again - you won’t be in the car forever. With an extra spray each of Shine and Honesty you will be ready for … whatever awaits you. ---
**Author:** ![00greena](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/00greena/32/2065_2.png) [@00greena](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/00greena)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 2:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-debut-in-york-uk/8316/7 "2008-01-15T14:55:52Z")
Im suprised to not see turn up the heat in the mix lol. do you mean ammo to my chest skin or with a shirt on ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 3:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-debut-in-york-uk/8316/8 "2008-01-15T15:10:21Z")
Upper chest, skin unless you plan to wear a turtle neck. 😉 Turn Up The Heat comes on strong and in a car it could be overwhelming. Its sex in a bottle seriously. To a more mature girl (around 28 and up) its arousing and we will react to it. As you get older you have more confidence, self assurance and experience and this is my therory as to why you get better reactions from older girls. Below that age group, its still arousing but alot of girls (not all of them) feel overwhelmed, unsure, dont have the confidence or experience to handle that vibe and respond to it so they become quiet. JMO Tisha ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 3:40pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-debut-in-york-uk/8316/9 "2008-01-15T15:40:43Z")
Ammo by itself is a good starting point for your night. Ammo is a pretty complex mix in itself (looks a lot like a mix of openness, Turn Up The Heat, + Shine). Its a sexual + social mix…very good product for an all-around ‘attractive’ type image. Ammo should most immediately and consistently produce results. 1-2 sprays max…gauge your results and adjust accordingly next time. Definitely spend some time experimenting with each individually as tish suggested…this will give you an idea of how each product works. Each product serves its own purpose in building attraction. Once you have a good understanding of how each product works, it’ll be easier to know when and how to use each one. Generally here’s how each of the products you own ‘works’: IH: (beta androstenol) communication pheromone. more intimate than openness. very ‘deep’, penetrating type communication (this is where the ‘honesty’ effect comes in). great for building rapport with a person, although can be too serious at times. IShine: (TAA) mood enhancing pheromone. Very upbeat, energetic, and uplifting. slightly sexual and exciting. Ammo: attraction type mix (alpha androstenol, androstenone, androsterone, TAA). Very balanced attraction type effects…has the sexual effects of androstenone, while balancing its negative aspects with uplifting social notes from TAA and alpha androstenol. Turn Up The Heat: (androstenone). Sexual type product. Produces a strong, masculine, aggressive vibe. Known to create strong sexual type responses, although it can also produce intimidation, irritation, and/or indifference. TUTH is dosed farily conservatively and mixed with other pheromones that curb the negative effects of androstenone a bit, however, over-dose effects can still be a problem if used too heavily. Instant Jerk: (androstenone + copulins). It pairs strong sexual notes from androstenone, with copulins, a molecule secreted by females during ovulation. Can be highly aggressive (copulins raise testosterone levels in males), and cause distrust and insecurity in women. I would recommend limiting its use to the bedroom, unless you want to carry a highly abrasive, aggressive type vibe with you. [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/): (alpha androstenol). Communication type pheromone. Upbeat, and chatty…mindlessly chatty at high doses. Great for lowering social barriers and opening lines of communication with targets. Creates a very ‘fun’ type vibe. Less intimate than honestly, but also far less serious. ---
**Author:** ![00greena](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/00greena/32/2065_2.png) [@00greena](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/00greena)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 4:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-debut-in-york-uk/8316/10 "2008-01-15T16:43:15Z")
Yes she is just turned 16. ive been friends with her for ages and we will be eventualy sleeping together without [pheromones](https://a314.com/) so i figured i wouldnt be loosing anything with a few experiements wud i? thanks for the advice. i will try that exact mix tonight to report on tomoro for ya trisha. and i will join the “tisha is the sexiest and wisest” fan club. lol 😉 ---
**Author:** ![00greena](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/00greena/32/2065_2.png) [@00greena](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/00greena)\ **Post date:** [January 15, 2008, 4:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-debut-in-york-uk/8316/11 "2008-01-15T16:45:24Z")
i forgot to say i had instant female magic. i best let u know just incase u advise that into the mix. ---
**Author:** ![sigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dec6dc/32.png) [@sigma](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/sigma)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2008, 4:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-debut-in-york-uk/8316/12 "2008-01-16T04:46:02Z")
> [@00greena](#): > > Yes she is just turned 16. ive been friends with her for ages and we will be eventualy sleeping together without pheromones so i figured i wouldnt be loosing anything with a few experiements wud i? > > thanks for the advice. i will try that exact mix tonight to report on tomoro for ya trisha. > and i will join the “tisha is the sexiest and wisest” fan club. lol 😉 Younger women usually aren’t receptive to androstenone. It can be too brooding and heavy…she may not have the same level of confidence as an adult woman and find high doses of androstenone intimidating. It would be counter-productive. Also, since you’re also in your teens, you should consider that you’re right around the age where you’re producing a high level of androstenone naturally. Any bit of androstenone added to your signature could cause you to OD. This isn’t always the case of course, as I too was pretty young when I got into pheromones and I had great results with high doses of androstenone. You’ll have to experiment to find your threshold, but go easy on bit for a bit. Younger people are very highly receptive to alpha androstenol (Instant Openness). The upbeat, fun nature of it jives with what younger people find attractive. I would focus on that. Knowing more about your situation, if I had to recommend a mix based on the products you have, I would go for Instant Openness + [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/) + Instant Shine. ---
**Author:** ![00greena](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/00greena/32/2065_2.png) [@00greena](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/00greena)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2008, 9:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-debut-in-york-uk/8316/13 "2008-01-16T09:50:11Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > I know you want to mix it up right away but go with one product to start. We do suggest one spray to start but as runner said no one usually finds there sweet spot at one except with Turn Up The Heat. > > I suggest using Instant Honesty 2 sprays first. One to hair and one to upper chest. > > If you really really cant stand the wait and want to go with more then one in typical pheromone baptism fashion 😃 Then I would try 1 shot of ammo to chest 2 shots of Instant shine. 2 shots of Instant Honesty. > > WAIT LOL Just noticed your going to be in a car. Scale down to one shot of each because you will see increased effects in the car since its so enclosed. > > Good luck have fun > > Tisha **RESULTS** The in car test was intresting. like trisha advised i used ammo, shine and openness. I was lucky enough to be squashed up on the back seats with emily the girl in question in the middle. the night lasted about 5 hours and the pheromones scent had become a background smell. the hits were coming all night. and the results made me realise what androtics can realy do. the first hit was enough to get excited about. traveling along in the car lookin in front of me. and in the corner of my eye emily starts turning her head and lookin at me in the corner of my eye. so when i look back, she looks away and starts giggling histericaly. and does that at various points in the night. lots of smiles and lots of laughing. Later on in the night she suddenly starts gettin really playful and hyper and starts a bit of horseplay. ie: squeezing ma leg to frighten me, nipping me, tickling me, slappin my forehead, speaking absalute bollucks, would not stop speakin shit at al, was bloody hilarious from where i was sat. so i gave her a PSP for her to relax and regain her thoughts. that was surely the instant openness at work. that was a sudden behavioral change about 2 hours in. towards the end of the night she was rather settled, began lookin at me again in the playful way and smiling and when she caught my eye she giggled. then she got a bit more settled and made herself cumfortable by resting her head on my shoulder. sat there for a bit. then she actualy physical moved and sat on my lap for about 15 mins then when we set of to take her home she had her hand on my leg. a subtle hit throughout the night. her drink was in front of me in the pocket on the back of the drivers seat. and when she reached it. her hand always brushed my leg. to conclude. deffinatly some unusual behavior last night. openness realy proved itself. instant female magic proved itself with the siting on my lap and leaning on my shoulder. i know these things are what girls do without pheromone use but it was the fact that they were unusual behavioral changes. we go out in cars enough to spot patterns in behavior. all in all if your young and new to pheromones and your reading this then you must add openness, shine and female magic to your shoppin cart. thankyou andy