# Androtics flagship mone revisited **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 5, 2012, 12:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-flagship-mone-revisited/57218 "2012-11-05T12:17:23Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 12:17pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-flagship-mone-revisited/57218/1 "2012-11-05T12:17:23Z")
a314 has peaked my interest again. I know other products do well too and I have a stash of mones collected over the past 15 years. (Yes I’ve been experimenting that long) My issue is about what to expect from a314 especially the a314b sprays. the smell is downright fantastic in akuto and I find the sprays work better than the oil (for me I’ve used both in the past). Its also cold out there now in toronto making the sprays a good option. So let’s revisit A314 shall we? It seems this mone has powerful self effects. Everytime I’ve worn it (As long as I take breaks) I find my confidence soars and i feel very much like a leader. The effects on others are very noticeable too. I find this mone should _NOT_ be worn around family members as your parents were once alpha during your younger years and in my family my parents become challenging and irritable when I wear it and try to put me in my place and treat me like a kid before I even say a sentence. With strangers, Women take interest in me and the first question I’m often ask is what i do for a living. I find it kinda a good way to start a conversation, however, its hard to get romantic where topics start off on work. Work is damn boring to discuss things, and I am really starting to wonder if a314 can lead to relationship enhancement in terms of sex. I find its one of the few mones I can act congruent with, however, it requires me to act high status, and high status is not necessarily something women will associate with attractiveness , especially younger women (25 and under). Perhaps if you’re trying to attract the 40 years old business executive it would be worthwhile but amongst younger more sexy women who are more playful this mone may put you in the dark. I would really like to use a314 to get sexual with women.. Now tell me up front, how many of you are successful at doing this with a product like a314? Women do like men who are more powerful than them.. So if your short, old, and fat and need to appear tall, younger, and in shape the power of a314 may help you along that path. Of course I do thinks to keep looking younger, am in relatively decent shape, and am of just slighly below average height for the province I live in. I also wear elevator shoes at times I want to make a good impression. So my question to you is this: with a314 I want to attract women 23-28 years of age for casual relationships.. I’m not looking for instant sex or ONS, nor am I looking to be friended. Do any of you stick to a314 for day evening game and use it with IS as a buffer for example and have dating, sexual success with women? Do you find they only care about your wallet when you act congurent with this signature? Alpha is a relative term and I’m past the stage of thinking i have to be bill clinton or donald trump to wear it.. Alpha simple means being more powerful that who your dealing with and young girls mid twenties are usually not that powerful anyways. Can the long term users of a314 comment on what they have found.. I read countless reviews and it seems to be the business mone but my life is more than work. I wanna have success with women and not necessarily high status women but women who crave a strong man. I have found IS/A314 to work best for me at being powerful yet relaxing. Ihave found [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) does little for me , except the summer ammo which relaxes me and put me in a chill mood. Still being older I find a314 gets old people talking to me which I like and don’t like. Its no fun when you see a good looking 20 something woman you want to approach and a 60 year old man with a belly and a laptop is demanding your attention and acting alpha around you.. Know what I mean? I would instantly be labelled an old fart and younger women would not want to socialize with me because of the type of people demanding my attention. You become your social circle. Once I tried IS AMMo A314 but found the ammo doesn’t do anything and if anything too many mones spoil the soup causing nothing to happen. Well you know it now.. i NOT trying to get ahead in business.. I already have a full time income, many hobbies, my own place etc.. i’m trying to have more success with women in all facets of my life. Would a314 be the best choice? ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2012, 2:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-flagship-mone-revisited/57218/2 "2012-11-05T14:00:58Z")
> [@](#): > > I would really like to use [a314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) to get sexual with women.. Now tell me up front, how many of you are successful at doing this with a product like [a314](https://a314.com/product/a314-classic/) ? I am sure a lot of the men will have experiences to share with you but when I read your post all I could think of was … Your trying to make apple pie with oranges and no matter how you spice it up its not going to taste like an apple pie. If your interested in sexual then use sexual mixes. You can still use A314 under them for that powerful alpha vibe. I am not saying A314 can not be sexual. But its the alpha leader mix. That requires you to lead, where you lead it is up to you. So if sexual is what you want lead it that way. > [@](#): > > So my question to you is this: with a314 I want to attract women 23-28 years of age for casual relationships.. I’m not looking for instant sex or ONS, nor am I looking to be friended. You still may be shooting to low in age, not that younger women dont have casual relationships with older men but usually its for 2 reasons status and wealth. A314 can up your status or vibration a little but it cant change your status. You have to think about it from the womens point of view. At 23 to 28 women are beginning to think long term and moving away from casual. Clocks begin ticking as you approach that age. They are looking for long term partners that will make strong offspring. In that sense A314 can put them in an aroused state but once they sense your looking for casual many will take a pass. Of course there are a handful of women who dont want that, they are just few and far between and tough to find. Your best bet is to go for something to make them horny and pull them in on that level. Perhaps they will throw caution to the wind and go for a little fling. Anone products like TUTH. A314 is full of arone which is more the settled vibe. I totally understand mens instinctual needs to attract to the younger 20 something women. Fertility plays a huge roll in this even if your not conscious of it but I think because of that instinctual response men have a tougher time excepting that most 20 something women are not looking for men in there fathers age range. They instinctively look for the strong breeders and even though men can breed well into there old age that signal is still lessened quite a bit. Its the natural order of things really. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![JohnM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/848f3c/32.png) [@JohnM](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnM)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 9:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-flagship-mone-revisited/57218/3 "2012-11-07T09:53:07Z")
> [@](#): > > Its no fun when you see a good looking 20 something woman you want to approach and a 60 year old man with a belly and a laptop is demanding your attention and acting alpha around you.. Know what I mean? I would instantly be labelled an old fart and younger women would not want to socialize with me because of the type of people demanding my attention. I don’t know whether that’s true. I don’t think a woman will mind when you get approached by a 60 year old man. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 12:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-flagship-mone-revisited/57218/4 "2012-11-07T12:41:55Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > I totally understand mens instinctual needs to attract to the younger 20 something women. Fertility plays a huge roll in this even if your not conscious of it but I think because of that instinctual response men have a tougher time excepting that most 20 something women are not looking for men in there fathers age range. They instinctively look for the strong breeders and even though men can breed well into there old age that signal is still lessened quite a bit. Its the natural order of things really. > Tisha I beg to differ with you here.. i hear woman in early 20’s complaining guys they’re age are not mature enough, settled enough in job/career, or are always demanding sex. Consequently, a younger woman may like an older man because he possesses these qualities. Woman in 30’s are at their sexual peak. It’s not uncommon for them to think, and want sex all the time.. Older men for the most part can’t deliver here. It makes more sense for them to seize a younger early 20’s man who is more potent. These women are cougars and often they go to bars and clubs looking for ONS. Many are settled in occupation and don’t care if the guy they meet is rich. I’m not saying this is the norm Tisha, but I’ve read about these scenarios countless times. Age does make a difference.. Luckily no one i’ve ever asked has guess my age to be over 34 and I’m 42. NO ONE except family who knows it. Consequently, a 25-28 year old woman isn’t exactly out of scope for me. Let’s talk about mixes now. There’s the issue of a314. Its a settled man’s image.. I like the fact that when I wear it I can make things happen. It provides me with motivation.. I can be congruent with it.. its all about value. I don’t want a horny only mix because i’m not potent 18 year old who only thinks of sex and ONS. I AM looking for interest with more long term potential.. Even if that is just casual to me (i.e. not going past dating or GF) it need not be seen as casual to a woman. In the end different mixes are for different scenarios but let me ask you something, what if you can’t act congruent with a sexual mix? Then what? You have the mix but not the behavior. on the other hand with status you have the behavior but the mix is wrong. What do you think of the following mix for status and young mans vibe… 1 spray A314 3 sprays mx297 3 sprays IH 2-3 sprays ammo (single strength) ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 12:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-flagship-mone-revisited/57218/5 "2012-11-07T12:45:19Z")
> [@JohnM](#): > > I don’t know whether that’s true. I don’t think a woman will mind when you get approached by a 60 year old man. Aha approached is ok, but most of the time they act so buddy buddy to me its as if they want to make friends.. that immediately puts me in the older man’s social circle and I don’t want that if I want to attract younger women who will wonder why I’m so buddy buddy with older people. Most people socialize with others their own age unless its work related. ---
**Author:** ![JohnM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/848f3c/32.png) [@JohnM](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnM)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 3:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-flagship-mone-revisited/57218/6 "2012-11-07T15:19:22Z")
> [@](#): > > Most people socialize with others their own age unless its work related. That’s not true. People who have a hobby where they meet people of different ages socialize with whomever is there. The guy who is good at socializing well with everyone who’s there possesses an valuable trait. He’s likely to have valuable social connections. If you don’t have any friends that have the same age as the girl you are persuing, she might hold that against you. I don’t think she will hold the fact that you have friends who are older against you. This is also an issue of mindset. If you think that woman will judge you for a lot of things and don’t do those things you are acting low status. > [@](#): > > With strangers, Women take interest in me and the first question I’m often ask is what i do for a living. I find it kinda a good way to start a conversation, however, its hard to get romantic where topics start off on work. You are wearing a high status product but you allow the woman to determine the topic of the conversation. Why do you think you are acting congruent with the mones that you are wearing? > [@](#): > > In the end different mixes are for different scenarios but let me ask you something, what if you can’t act congruent with a sexual mix? Then what? You have the mix but not the behavior. How about learning the behavior? Yes, your first attempts are like to be failures, but you can learn a different behavior with practice. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 3:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-flagship-mone-revisited/57218/7 "2012-11-07T15:59:12Z")
> [@](#): > > I beg to differ with you here.. i hear woman in early 20’s complaining guys they’re age are not mature enough, settled enough in job/career, or are always demanding sex. Consequently, a younger woman may like an older man because he possesses these qualities. They are talking about men their own age. That doesn’t mean they want to jump 20 years ahead. One key point you brought up is they feel they are not “settled enough” Thats true, but your not looking to hook up to settle down with someone. You have said many times before, Your looking for the same thing those 20 something guys are looking for. They are not going to ignore that because your older. > [@](#): > > Most people socialize with others their own age unless its work related. I agree with John, I have friends that are totally not related to work of all different ages and most people I know do. > [@](#): > > Woman in 30’s are at their sexual peak. It’s not uncommon for them to think, and want sex all the time.. **Older men for the most part can’t deliver here.** I dont agree with this either. Older men have skills and by the time a women is at the peaking age skill trumps frequency every single time. > [@](#): > > I don’t want a horny only mix because i’m not potent 18 year old who only thinks of sex and ONS. I AM looking for interest with more long term potential.. **Even if that is just casual to me (i.e. not going past dating or GF) it need not be seen as casual to a woman.** OK maybe I am confusing you with someone..seriously. As I recall your involved with someone already in a long term relationship with a mutual agreement to have side action. Is that correct ? So your saying you would lead a women on and make her think that its more then casual even though you know thats all your intentions are and lie about your age as well ? Dude thats cold. Women are emotional creatures. We can handle ONS better then someone misleading their affections. Think about your expectations. Your expecting a women to fill your needs without regard to her own. That makes the 23 to 28 even tougher because they are looking for mature, which translates into long term (someone who want to have a relationship that moves forward) There are those “other women” out there but it never ends well and no one sets out to be the other women. You cant match the alpha vibe if thats what your intentions are. Its a Beta quality. I am not judging but I think your expectations are a bit out of alignment. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 4:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-flagship-mone-revisited/57218/8 "2012-11-07T16:50:23Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > They are talking about men their own age. That doesn’t mean they want to jump 20 years ahead. > > One key point you brought up is they feel they are not “settled enough” Thats true, but your not looking to hook up to settle down with someone. You have said many times before, Your looking for the same thing those 20 something guys are looking for. They are not going to ignore that because your older. > > I agree with John, I have friends that are totally not related to work of all different ages and most people I know do. > > I dont agree with this either. Older men have skills and by the time a women is at the peaking age skill trumps frequency every single time. > > OK maybe I am confusing you with someone..seriously. As I recall your involved with someone already in a long term relationship with a mutual agreement to have side action. Is that correct ? > > So your saying you would lead a women on and make her think that its more then casual even though you know thats all your intentions are and lie about your age as well ? Dude thats cold. Women are emotional creatures. We can handle ONS better then someone misleading their affections. > > Think about your expectations. Your expecting a women to fill your needs without regard to her own. That makes the 23 to 28 even tougher because they are looking for mature, which translates into long term (someone who want to have a relationship that moves forward) There are those “other women” out there but it never ends well and no one sets out to be the other women. You cant match the alpha vibe if thats what your intentions are. Its a Beta quality. > > I am not judging but I think your expectations are a bit out of alignment. > > Tisha If its not an alpha vibe what would you suggest in terms of mones? Perhaps IS AMMO [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/)? A more relaxed sensual and sexy mone signature? I seem to lately be wearing that one well.. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2012, 10:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-flagship-mone-revisited/57218/9 "2012-11-07T22:45:34Z")
> [@dsouza](#): > > Most people socialize with others their own age unless its work related. Certainly true when you’re really young and just out of school. But most of us eventually make friends based on common lifestyles and environment. Heck, I often hang out with neighbors whom I have nothing in common with (environment) and organic gardeners of all ages (lifestyles). My experience with A314 is, unless you already have it going on, it probably won’t make you attractive to women not normally attracted to you. It does however engender a certain authoritative air conducive to respectful communication, following orders, etc. People may not like you but will give you your due. If I wanted to make time with a woman, I’d dress up A314 with happy and social molecules unless you know she has a daddy complex and prefers the authoritative big kahuna vibe. ---
**Author:** ![Misein](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Misein](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Misein)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 1:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-flagship-mone-revisited/57218/10 "2012-11-08T01:27:32Z")
Why would the company of a 60 year old make you any less attractive in the eyes of any woman? I really don’t get it. ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 1:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-flagship-mone-revisited/57218/11 "2012-11-08T13:08:22Z")
If that 60 year old is attractive it won’t make you less attractive.. but if you’re “buddying up” not just being approached, with a pot bellied , bald, obese, person who’d quicly be labelled a thug or street person in toronto most people here will not only look less attractive in younger girls eyes but also appear downright creepy. In toronto security is high.. and because of the mixed cultures in the city people tend to mind their own business. It may be different depending on demographics. ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 1:52pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-flagship-mone-revisited/57218/12 "2012-11-08T13:52:33Z")
So in Toronto all the thugs are pot bellied, bald, obese and over 60 ?? Remind me not to go to Toronto LOL How do they know its not your Dad or your Uncle Pete ? It could just be a perfectly nice person. Judging people visually is an illusion. You see what you fear and believe not whats really there most times. If people are that misguided and judgemental there I can see why your having trouble with your mones. I think Thomas was from there to and he mentioned similar weird beliefs. Out of curiosity why is security high there ? Tisha ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 2:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-flagship-mone-revisited/57218/13 "2012-11-08T14:04:08Z")
People keep their distance and mind their own business most of the time.. Lots of gays, different nationalities, religions, ethics and differing of status all mixed together. It makes for an interesting city but the diversion makes for added security and you can tell people still socialize within their own group network. Some suburbs are more relaxed and laid back.. But downtown toronto isn’t such a way. Also traffic can be crazy… that alone can cause a lot of tension… ---
**Author:** ![dsouza](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/dsouza/32/840_2.png) [@dsouza](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/dsouza)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2012, 2:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-flagship-mone-revisited/57218/14 "2012-11-08T14:04:30Z")
People keep their distance and mind their own business most of the time.. Lots of gays, different nationalities, religions, ethics and differing of status all mixed together. It makes for an interesting city but the diversion makes for added security. Some suburbs are more relaxed and laid back.. But downtown toronto isn’t such a way. ---
**Author:** ![veramis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/848f3c/32.png) [@veramis](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/veramis)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2012, 5:12pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-flagship-mone-revisited/57218/15 "2012-11-09T17:12:24Z")
I only wore A314 solo 3 times or so, and when I don’t smile or avoid looking at them it usually scares away women in their 20’s. But if I am considerate and keep smiling and never criticize them, conversations usually go very well. I learned early on to never criticize people when wearing A314 because they get a strong urge to defend themselves. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2012, 1:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-flagship-mone-revisited/57218/16 "2012-11-10T13:06:54Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Think about your expectations. Your expecting a women to fill your needs without regard to her own. That makes the 23 to 28 even tougher because they are looking for mature, which translates into long term (someone who want to have a relationship that moves forward) There are those “other women” out there but it never ends well and no one sets out to be the other women. You cant match the alpha vibe if thats what your intentions are. Its a Beta quality. Tisha, you are half right on this. Alphas don’t give crap what others think AND do not need women to satisfy them. It is usually hard for men over 30 to be alpha without respectable jobs, money and confidence. For example, a man that works at home depot or resturant won’t be taken seriously by people no matter how confident and tough he acts. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2012, 1:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-flagship-mone-revisited/57218/17 "2012-11-10T13:08:41Z")
> [@Misein](#): > > Why would the company of a 60 year old make you any less attractive in the eyes of any woman? I really don’t get it. Dude, you think hot 20 yo female would f\*\*k a 60 year male? lol ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2012, 2:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-flagship-mone-revisited/57218/18 "2012-11-10T14:41:53Z")
> [@CoolKat](#): > > Tisha, you are half right on this. Alphas don’t give crap what others think AND do not need women to satisfy them. It is usually hard for men over 30 to be alpha without respectable jobs, money and confidence. > For example, a man that works at home depot or resturant won’t be taken seriously by people no matter how confident and tough he acts. Alphas are not defined by what others think and in that sense they don’t care what people think of them however they do care about others peoples thoughts and feelings. They tend to hold themselves to a higher standard. I don’t agree that its hard for a male to be alpha without material things. Alpha is a trait, you cant buy it or trade it. Its something you are, not something you have. Yes most successful people are alpha in personality but that is a side effect of the trait. It doesn’t create the trait. If you have no respect for a person because he works at Home depot then your not really seeing the man or his worth, your seeing whats material and those things come and go. > [@](#): > > Dude, you think hot 20 yo female would f\*\*k a 60 year male? That’s not what he meant. dsouza said that in Toronto if you are seen with a old fat bald person young girls wont be attracted to you even if your young fit and have a full head of hair. I have been all over the US and I dont know any girls who would judge your looks and bang worthiness by the guy standing next to you. Apparently its something that happens where he is from often. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2012, 2:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-flagship-mone-revisited/57218/19 "2012-11-10T14:50:50Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Alpha is a trait, you cant buy it or trade it. Its something you are, not something you have. Yes most successful people are alpha in personality but that is a side effect of the trait. It doesn’t create the trait. You have it wrong. Alpha traits can be ingrained and acquired. You are right in that alphaness is something that one cannot buy or sell, but one can develop it. Also, some alphas do care about others, while some do not. However, they primarily care about accomplishing what they believe in and they don’t change their core values to please or satisfy others If people don’t respect or follow you as a leader, by definition you’re not alpha. Many people become more alpha as they become more successful and experienced in life. Also, how alpha people are varies by their environment and comfort level. From the ages of 15 to 25 years old, usually, tall and buff guys tend to be more alpha, because they command more respect from other guys. Also, they have easier time with girls. Therefore, they feel more accepting and confident of themselves. However, from 26 to 40 years old, usually, those who are in respectable professions and more educated exhibit more alpha behavior because they feel more confident about themselves where they are in terms of social status. For those who are 41+, it is all about being satisfied with what they have achieved in their lives and who they are. It is all about being able to accepting your place in life. Also, to further illustrate, PUA’s become more alpha as they start to pick up more girls and become confident about themselves. It is all about inner game. Some have it while some don’t. But don’t forget. Many can develop confidence and alphaness overtime, but I admit,that most don’t ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2012, 7:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-flagship-mone-revisited/57218/20 "2012-11-10T19:55:24Z")
We will have to agree to disagree on this one to some extent. Its a common mistake men tend to make, misunderstanding exactly what it means to be an Alpha male. It has nothing to do with your fitness level, how buff you are, how tall you are or any of those things. I do agree it comes from an inner confidence but having confidence doesnt automatically make you a leader or an alpha. I am not saying you can not work at portraying more alpha traits but that doesnt make you naturally an Alpha male it just means you have developed some new skills not changed into an alpha. Alpha’s dont learn to be Alphas they just are. Think of it this way… There are hundreds of rich men, buff men, tall men, men with good jobs and confident men in the world. Are all of them alphas though ? If that was all it took to be an alpha male then they all would be. PUA is a Beta quility. Alpha males are not pick up artists. They can care less about the game. PUA can make you more confident but it can not make you an alpha male. Its screams Beta. I am not putting PUA material down. In fact I think it can be very useful to some people but while it can change whats on the outside it can not change the core. So again I am not saying your wrong I am saying I dont see it the same way as you do. Tisha [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-flagship-mone-revisited/57218.md?page=2)