# Androtics providing oil based versions of the sprays? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 9, 2009, 10:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-providing-oil-based-versions-of-the-sprays/33957 "2009-11-09T22:50:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![allstarmvp256](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/allstarmvp256/32/1867_2.png) [@allstarmvp256](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/allstarmvp256)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 10:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-providing-oil-based-versions-of-the-sprays/33957/1 "2009-11-09T22:50:29Z")
So I was looking abound the Androtics site and then all of the sudden wondered why they can’t provide oil based versions of the alcohol based spray… obviously, the oil based ones will last longer so it will be more convenient for the users that apply it. I would love it if they had an oil based versions of IG or any of the other socials…Or am I just missing something please let me know 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 10:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-providing-oil-based-versions-of-the-sprays/33957/2 "2009-11-09T22:55:43Z")
> [@allstarmvp256](#): > > So I was looking abound the Androtics site and then all of the sudden wondered why they can’t provide oil based versions of the alcohol based spray… obviously, the oil based ones will last longer so it will be more convenient for the users that apply it. I would love it if they had an oil based versions of IG or any of the other socials…Or am I just missing something please let me know 🙄 You could always do what I’m doing. I’ve decided to make my own oil based versions of Steve’s ICM mixes. > [@ICM ...1b oil mix...](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-1b-oil-mix/32892): > > First off, let me say that I LOVE the ICM mixes. Steve you are a genius! slight_smile Because I’ve found them to work very well for me and because I’m not the most imaginitive person I’ve been trying mutant versions of these mixes. I’ve recently made a mutant version of ICM …1a with P75 instead of ~none and I’ll write up a report in a few days. Still trying to figure it out. (Could have amped up the amount of P75- or P75 layers differently than it composites.) Today I mixed up a batch of ICM … ---
**Author:** ![allstarmvp256](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/allstarmvp256/32/1867_2.png) [@allstarmvp256](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/allstarmvp256)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 11:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-providing-oil-based-versions-of-the-sprays/33957/3 "2009-11-09T23:08:51Z")
Hmm seems pretty complicated…If I were to do something like that I would defiantly need some guidance but can steve do the custom order for the oil based IG…Iv heard that the Alcohol based sprays can make people feel very different compared the the oil based product (A314) which is more genuine. In what ways would they feel different? ---
**Author:** ![zodiacore](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zodiacore/32/480_2.png) [@zodiacore](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zodiacore)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 11:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-providing-oil-based-versions-of-the-sprays/33957/4 "2009-11-09T23:19:11Z")
It would be very awesome if there were more oil based products on Androtics Direct. Also it would be very cool if the Instant Series were also in oil form. ---
**Author:** ![JJ54](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ea666f/32.png) [@JJ54](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JJ54)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 11:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-providing-oil-based-versions-of-the-sprays/33957/5 "2009-11-09T23:25:42Z")
Yea it would be nice if they brought back the oil version of instant honesty again ---
**Author:** ![allstarmvp256](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/allstarmvp256/32/1867_2.png) [@allstarmvp256](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/allstarmvp256)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2009, 11:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-providing-oil-based-versions-of-the-sprays/33957/6 "2009-11-09T23:32:46Z")
> [@JJ54](#): > > Yea it would be nice if they brought back the oil version of instant honesty again Woah they have had the oil based versions before? Im struggling to figure out the reason why androtics seems to be cutting loose of some of their products (IFM) and even the other oil based products (dirty, Raw Power). But yeh if they had IG oil based version Id be the first one in line. ---
**Author:** ![andrew88777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrew88777)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 12:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-providing-oil-based-versions-of-the-sprays/33957/7 "2009-11-10T00:20:02Z")
Oil based [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) are more expensive to make. Like in Snoopyaces thread he used 5x strength pheromones for the mix. It would cost the end user way more money to make an oil based mix. There are tons of posts on IFM. One of the pheromones in it can cause depression in some men. That is not a good thing! Androtics is not for giving out products that can hurt people! Plus I think there is some type of patent on the pheromone as well. > [@allstarmvp256](#): > > Woah they have had the oil based versions before? Im struggling to figure out the reason why androtics seems to be cutting loose of some of their products (IFM) and even the other oil based products (dirty, Raw Power). > > But yeh if they had IG oil based version Id be the first one in line. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 1:23am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-providing-oil-based-versions-of-the-sprays/33957/8 "2009-11-10T01:23:48Z")
It’s easy to roll your own homebrew IFM: buy chemset A1 from LS and mix away. Even a single undiluted drop worked as well as IFM for defeating female PMS moodiness and depression. Realize A1 is the most abundant mone on male skin, so no man is prone to depression in low doses. Unfortunately some men suffer moodiness and depression when exposed to high doses of A1, so keep that in mind. The patent only covers use of A1 in cologne/perfume products. You can’t patent a naturally occurring substance in and of itself. As for oil carrier mixes, I love them but by nature they are expensive. Why? Due to slow dispersion the mone contents need be much stronger than alcohol carrier products. Otherwise it’s too weak to do jack. TAA oil was a case in point: expensive and feeble compared to TAA spray. ---
**Author:** ![zodiacore](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zodiacore/32/480_2.png) [@zodiacore](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zodiacore)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 2:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-providing-oil-based-versions-of-the-sprays/33957/9 "2009-11-10T02:22:56Z")
I know what people mean when they say that A1 causes depression in men. The depressing effect is hard to explain but it is so mild for me. The main effect I get is sooo relaxing. I put on some A1 with The Scent of Zodiacore, take my daily adderall, listen to Luno by Bloc Party, and I am the most relaxed person on the planet. It is like a therapy session for me, I am in such a better mood and act more laid back like I can take on the world. That’s if I breath in the scent I mixed. I know it is more expensive, but what would be awesome, is if any spray pheromone were to become oil, a great one would be SPACELAND oil. That would be amazing! I would definately make that top in my collection. BTW I heard that there was a a thread that taught you how to turn [spray pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/spray-pheromones/) into oils because I definately want to do that with SPACELAND. If anyone knows, what oil do you use? ---
**Author:** ![andrew88777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrew88777)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 2:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-providing-oil-based-versions-of-the-sprays/33957/10 "2009-11-10T02:28:37Z")
The problem with spaceland is that it is EOs and Pheromones that do what it does. Also again to make an oil based mix, the pheromones would need to be several times stronger. You would have to get Spaceland x5 or x6 or possibly more to get the same effects. The price of that would be ridiculous. If you could even get it custom ordered. If you want to make you r own oils Snoopyace has an ICM thread with what he did, however he was just guessing and turned out lucky that everything worked. You would have to experiment to get the results you want. You can order the oil from Androtics. Its sold in a bottle under mixing supplies – DPG. You could call Steve and see about a custom order. > [@zodiacore](#): > > I know what people mean when they say that A1 causes depression in men. The depressing effect is hard to explain but it is so mild for me. The main effect I get is sooo relaxing. I put on some A1 with The Scent of Zodiacore, take my daily adderall, listen to Luno by Bloc Party, and I am the most relaxed person on the planet. It is like a therapy session for me, I am in such a better mood and act more laid back like I can take on the world. That’s if I breath in the scent I mixed. > > I know it is more expensive, but what would be awesome, is if any spray pheromone were to become oil, a great one would be SPACELAND oil. That would be amazing! I would definately make that top in my collection. > > BTW I heard that there was a a thread that taught you how to turn spray pheromones into oils because I definately want to do that with SPACELAND. If anyone knows, what oil do you use? ---
**Author:** ![Snoopyace](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/snoopyace/32/1727_2.png) [@Snoopyace](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Snoopyace)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 2:31am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-providing-oil-based-versions-of-the-sprays/33957/11 "2009-11-10T02:31:15Z")
> [@zodiacore](#): > > I know what people mean when they say that A1 causes depression in men. The depressing effect is hard to explain but it is so mild for me. The main effect I get is sooo relaxing. I put on some A1 with The Scent of Zodiacore, take my daily adderall, listen to Luno by Bloc Party, and I am the most relaxed person on the planet. It is like a therapy session for me, I am in such a better mood and act more laid back like I can take on the world. That’s if I breath in the scent I mixed. > > I know it is more expensive, but what would be awesome, is if any spray pheromone were to become oil, a great one would be SPACELAND oil. That would be amazing! I would definately make that top in my collection. > > BTW I heard that there was a a thread that taught you how to turn spray pheromones into oils because I definately want to do that with SPACELAND. If anyone knows, what oil do you use? I don’t know that I would call it a thread that teaches how but I’ve detailed my experiences making Steve’s ICM …1b. If nothing else, maybe it will help you have some insight into the process I used. I’m sure there are better ways, however. > [@ICM ...1b oil mix...](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/icm-1b-oil-mix/32892): > > First off, let me say that I LOVE the ICM mixes. Steve you are a genius! slight_smile Because I’ve found them to work very well for me and because I’m not the most imaginitive person I’ve been trying mutant versions of these mixes. I’ve recently made a mutant version of ICM …1a with P75 instead of ~none and I’ll write up a report in a few days. Still trying to figure it out. (Could have amped up the amount of P75- or P75 layers differently than it composites.) Today I mixed up a batch of ICM … ---
**Author:** ![allstarmvp256](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/allstarmvp256/32/1867_2.png) [@allstarmvp256](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/allstarmvp256)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 2:42am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-providing-oil-based-versions-of-the-sprays/33957/12 "2009-11-10T02:42:46Z")
It seems to me that it would be way to expensive to make the oil version of the instant line considering that the concentration of the mones would have to be a lot higher (x5,x6) of the normal ones. What do you guys think of [pheromone](https://a314.com/) body wash? I saw a website in which they had body wash that had certain mones in it. I don’t know if it would be legit though but I heard that the Dial magnetic works (Just recently bought from Walmart for like $3) but I haven’t tested it yet… apparently steve had had some success with it. ---
**Author:** ![andrew88777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@andrew88777](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andrew88777)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 2:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-providing-oil-based-versions-of-the-sprays/33957/13 "2009-11-10T02:45:49Z")
I believe it does something. What lead me here was the Magnetik pomade product that was no longer available at the store I shopped at. I wanted to purchase it online if I could. Then I found this wonderful place. 🙂 > [@allstarmvp256](#): > > It seems to me that it would be way to expensive to make the oil version of the instant line considering that the concentration of the mones would have to be a lot higher (x5,x6) of the normal ones. > > What do you guys think of pheromone body wash? I saw a website in which they had body wash that had certain mones in it. I don’t know if it would be legit though but I heard that the Dial magnetic works (Just recently bought from Walmart for like $3) but I haven’t tested it yet… apparently steve had had some success with it. ---
**Author:** ![allstarmvp256](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/allstarmvp256/32/1867_2.png) [@allstarmvp256](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/allstarmvp256)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 2:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-providing-oil-based-versions-of-the-sprays/33957/14 "2009-11-10T02:58:22Z")
> [@andrew88777](#): > > I believe it does something. What lead me here was the Magnetik pomade product that was no longer available at the store I shopped at. I wanted to purchase it online if I could. Then I found this wonderful place. 🙂 Haha thats a nice way to get started…unfortunately,I found this place after that stupid pherlure scam which was BS…I didnt even receive my order! ---
**Author:** ![zodiacore](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zodiacore/32/480_2.png) [@zodiacore](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zodiacore)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 4:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-providing-oil-based-versions-of-the-sprays/33957/15 "2009-11-10T04:27:52Z")
> [@allstarmvp256](#): > > What do you guys think of pheromone body wash? I saw a website in which they had body wash that had certain mones in it. I don’t know if it would be legit though but I heard that the Dial magnetic works (Just recently bought from Walmart for like $3) but I haven’t tested it yet… apparently steve had had some success with it. Yes, I use Dial Magnetic everyday. It contains Androstadienone. It is supposed to cause depression in men but it is way more relaxing than depressing. I use the blue kind (I love the smell), and after I have applied it I love smelling my arms because the scent really is relaxing. In fact it is the base of my scent mix and I suggest this body wash to anyone who uses pheromones. I read one of Steve’s posts about it when he got done showering at the gym and he had some hits from it, when he was on the treadmills a girl kept wanting to be close to him. I wouldn’t blame her 😃 ---
**Author:** ![allstarmvp256](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/allstarmvp256/32/1867_2.png) [@allstarmvp256](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/allstarmvp256)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 4:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-providing-oil-based-versions-of-the-sprays/33957/16 "2009-11-10T04:39:05Z")
> [@zodiacore](#): > > Yes, I use Dial Magnetic everyday. It contains Androstadienone. It is supposed to cause depression in men but it is way more relaxing than depressing. I use the blue kind (I love the smell), and after I have applied it I love smelling my arms because the scent really is relaxing. In fact it is the base of my scent mix and I suggest this body wash to anyone who uses pheromones. I read one of Steve’s posts about it when he got done showering at the gym and he had some hits from it, when he was on the treadmills a girl kept wanting to be close to him. I wouldn’t blame her 😃 Haha thats exactly what I read..I was sold after I read that. Im surprised that Dial can make a legitimate [pheromone product](https://a314.com/shop/) that also smells good. That would suck if everyone found out about mones though. ---
**Author:** ![zodiacore](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/zodiacore/32/480_2.png) [@zodiacore](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/zodiacore)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 4:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-providing-oil-based-versions-of-the-sprays/33957/17 "2009-11-10T04:54:58Z")
> [@allstarmvp256](#): > > That would suck if everyone found out about mones though. Yeah, true, life would be WAY more competitive and the girls would probably end up with the assholes who would put on some androstenone and rip their shirt off. I know a kid who did this without pheromones and every girl in the room was getting exited 😕 Also the Dial Magnetic commercials aren’t helping with this either. I perfer a world where androtics are given to people who have respect for other people. ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 6:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-providing-oil-based-versions-of-the-sprays/33957/18 "2009-11-10T06:29:02Z")
> [@zodiacore](#): > > I perfer a world where androtics are given to people who have respect for other people. Whoa, mones ain’t magic or mind control. It’s only an edge. Success is still mostly about you and your words and actions. Mones can’t cover up for being an asshole or a dimwit. Even with the finest mones your true colors still shine through. ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 7:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-providing-oil-based-versions-of-the-sprays/33957/19 "2009-11-10T07:51:31Z")
Listen to this man, he speaks of truths. > [@Gegogi](#): > > Whoa, mones ain’t magic or mind control. It’s only an edge. Success is still mostly about you and your words and actions. Mones can’t cover up for being an asshole or a dimwit. Even with the finest mones your true colors still shine through. ---
**Author:** ![meow333x](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ecae2f/32.png) [@meow333x](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/meow333x)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2009, 8:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/androtics-providing-oil-based-versions-of-the-sprays/33957/20 "2009-11-10T08:02:06Z")
> [@allstarmvp256](#): > > That would suck if everyone found out about mones though. that’s like saying it would suck if everyone figured out how to get in shape.