# Annoying guys attracted to my date **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 13, 2010, 10:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/annoying-guys-attracted-to-my-date/41704 "2010-09-13T22:55:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![orion\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8c91f0/32.png) [@orion\_1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/orion_1)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 10:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/annoying-guys-attracted-to-my-date/41704/1 "2010-09-13T22:55:05Z")
Hey folks, I’ve been using mones for a while now (mainly IS and AMMO) and I have noticed a recurring problem. When I go out with a girl or meet and talk with a girl at a pub/disco, suddenly lots of guys become attracted to her and start trying to pick her up, right in front of my nose. Before I used mones I never had that problem. Does anyone have experience with this situation? Or can maybe advice something that keeps the other guys a bit at bay? IFM seemed to help a bit, but it’s not available anymore. Best, Orion ---
**Author:** ![rolandcubed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@rolandcubed](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rolandcubed)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 11:13pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/annoying-guys-attracted-to-my-date/41704/2 "2010-09-13T23:13:42Z")
Are your venues the exact same as before when you started using [pheromones](https://a314.com/)? A venue change would explain this. Maybe it’s the shine which affects her, would affect her attitude and how people around her percieve her. So really your shine is her shine which makes it shiney for everyone else haha. good luck. ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 12:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/annoying-guys-attracted-to-my-date/41704/3 "2010-09-14T00:02:31Z")
Sometimes an issue like this could be inner game. Thinking other guys might move in on her may attract the same if you perceive yourself as weaker. _With each situation, opportunity_ ---
**Author:** ![MVKBUGATTI](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@MVKBUGATTI](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MVKBUGATTI)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 2:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/annoying-guys-attracted-to-my-date/41704/4 "2010-09-14T02:36:05Z")
> [@orion](#): > > I’ve been using mones for a while now (mainly IS and AMMO) and I have noticed a recurring problem. When I go out with a girl or meet and talk with a girl at a pub/disco, suddenly lots of guys become attracted to her and start trying to pick her up, right in front of my nose. > > Before I used mones I never had that problem. Does anyone have experience with this situation? Or can maybe advice something that keeps the other guys a bit at bay? Orion, so you never had this problem until you use phermones. Hmmm? What do you think could be a cause? Could share a little light on this subject.🙂 There could be a host of things that aren’t necessary -mones related. ---
**Author:** ![RADMAN513](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/radman513/32/364_2.png) [@RADMAN513](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RADMAN513)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 4:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/annoying-guys-attracted-to-my-date/41704/5 "2010-09-14T04:15:50Z")
Well normally I’d say it’s a body language communication thing. You know, seeing the cute girl with a guy who’s body language screams doormat can actually attract guys easier than a girl alone. Mainly because young guys think physically intimidating the BF will make them more attractive to the girl…which is easier than coming up with an opener for a girl alone or with girl friends. But you say it didn’t start before you started using mones. So…and this is PURE speculation on my part. You’re wearing enough None to be taken as a sign over your head that says “I’m a tough guy”…and they’re instinctively taking you up on the challenge. It’s almost a “reverse social proof”, the [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) is making enough of a statement you that stealing your girl would be a feather in the cap. Try adding a drop or two of A314 to the mix. A more mature Rone signature might put the kibosh on that. ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 12:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/annoying-guys-attracted-to-my-date/41704/6 "2010-09-14T12:51:39Z")
I second what Radman says. I missed the part about you saying you never had this problem before. The only times this has happened to me before have been when I’m picking up a high value girl who has all her friends around. Then the male friends try to interrupt. Could it be a coincidence? We often find what we are seeking! It’s called confirmation bias. > **[Confirmation bias](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias)** > > Confirmation bias (also confirmatory bias, myside bias,\[a\] or congeniality bias) is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor and recall information in a way that confirms or supports one's prior beliefs, values, or decisions. People display this bias when they select information that supports their views, ignoring contrary information or when they interpret ambiguous evidence as supporting their existing attitudes. The effect is strongest for desired outcomes, emotionally charged iss Biased... ---
**Author:** ![RisenAlpha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/54ee81/32.png) [@RisenAlpha](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/RisenAlpha)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 3:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/annoying-guys-attracted-to-my-date/41704/7 "2010-09-14T15:20:49Z")
I agree with Rad that maybe a drop of A314 would help. It’s possible that you are actually increasing her perceived value with your mone signature. How many sprays of ammo are you using? I’m thinking if you have a high -none signature but bad body language, then every other aggressive male in the place will see a woman who likes aggressive men and her current man is a push over. ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 3:33pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/annoying-guys-attracted-to-my-date/41704/8 "2010-09-14T15:33:37Z")
You wanna scare em off real fast? Wink and lick your lips ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 4:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/annoying-guys-attracted-to-my-date/41704/9 "2010-09-14T16:43:30Z")
life lesson #5295… _contexts are all powerful_. The interaction between pheromones and contexts are paramount. You’re suddenly “seeing into” the deeper level energetic states of a given context. Its’ like taking an interesting psychedelic and seeing psychological sides of things you never noticed (or worked overtime to repress noticing)… A LOT of people have only _moderate-to-weak self regulation_ abilities… give them a little ethanol and their entire time field collapses into a expanded present moment… normally their churning ids are regulated by external rules and social norms… bars, pubs, clubs and the like are places where there is some social agreement that the primitive, reptilian brain can have greater influence… Paradoxically, the estrogenic, communicative pheromones can be vastly more useful in these contexts, counterintuitive, I know… you’d think you want to layer up on the alpha exuding monkey piss… and what happens ?, you get a roomful of pissing monkeys… Much, much more effective to use P86, gives everything a golden airbrushed glow, reduces the threat levels, people falling all over themselves to see who is more civilized, more chivalrous… **TAA+ P86 + P74 + BetaNol + RONE** can be a freaking hoot (heavy on the p86, TAA and p74, medium on the BetaNol, and a sprinkle of RONE)… mix it up, put it in a little screw cap bottle, pour it into your hands and rub it all over your neck and face after your in there , if you have your hand magic down, palm the bottle, then practice a move like your rubbing your face quickly from tiredness or stress, drawing your hands back over your hair and back to your neck… if you put it on at home 90% will be evaporated before you get there… the funny thing about beta-nol is it really, really lets the blowhards and assholes express their inner selves, so let them make absolute fools of themselves and you and your GF can step back and enjoy the show… or run like hell out of there when they uncontrollable won’t shut up about how you would be speaking German if it weren’t for them… ---
**Author:** ![giants52000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/958977/32.png) [@giants52000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/giants52000)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 8:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/annoying-guys-attracted-to-my-date/41704/10 "2010-09-14T20:19:09Z")
> [@tacitus](#): > > life lesson #5295 **TAA+ P86 + P74 + BetaNol + RONE** can be a freaking hoot (heavy on the p86, TAA and p74, medium on the BetaNol, and a sprinkle of RONE)… mix it up, put it in a little screw cap bottle, **pour it into your hands and rub it all over your neck and face** after your in there , if you have your hand magic down, palm the bottle, Tacitus, How much MORE mcgs of mones would one get using that method of pouring into ones hands and rubbing it all over vs simply spraying it on? ---
**Author:** ![orion\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8c91f0/32.png) [@orion\_1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/orion_1)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2010, 8:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/annoying-guys-attracted-to-my-date/41704/11 "2010-09-14T20:46:56Z")
Wow, thanks for all the feedback guys! @rolandcubed: yes, but there’s been quite some time in between. Potentially I have changed a lot since then. @evolver + RADMAN513: the body language thing is certainly a weak spot for me. Might need to seriously look into that. Interestingly enough, I don’t even seem worth a glance in such a situation. They’re heading straight for the girl. Gives me this eerie vibe of not actually being present in the situation. I’ll give the A314 a shot, although I don’t have any yet. @MVKBUGATTI: You may be right. Maybe I’m not looking like a threat to anyone? @JosieWilder: I’m usually trying to go for the minimal dose that does it for me. One spray is all (and even only a togo). @P51Mustang: Haha, yeah, that might help 🙄 @tacitus: That’s a very impressive post, but I think far beyond my level at this point. Interesting none the less! ---
**Author:** ![tacitus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@tacitus](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tacitus)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 12:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/annoying-guys-attracted-to-my-date/41704/12 "2010-09-15T00:29:16Z")
> [@giants52000](#): > > Tacitus, > How much MORE mcgs of mones would one get using that method of pouring into ones hands and rubbing it all over vs simply spraying it on? The main this is TIMING… if you can concentrate massive force on a small point, you get mind expanding effects… if you spray it on at a distance from your target location, most is wasted in air currents… The make these teeny tiny 2 ml glass bottlers with screw caps they sell at essential oil stores (great because they have tight seals too), you can drop two or three in a pocket and grab one when you need to go nuclear… don’t waste pearls before swine… if you want to ad a fragrance you have a perfect cover story… hint: use the highest quality stuff and nothing but.. some anthropologists tried handing out various fragrances to the Wodaaabe men during their annual mating rituals… they went for the Chanel and wouldn’t touch the rest (which was cheap crap, they instinctively knew quality)… you might fill 1 ml. with primo fragrance and 1 ml. with concentrated mone, unless you want to go stealth… A lot of those bozos will probably start turning gay on each other… ---
**Author:** ![giants52000](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/958977/32.png) [@giants52000](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/giants52000)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2010, 2:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/annoying-guys-attracted-to-my-date/41704/13 "2010-09-15T02:26:31Z")
> [@tacitus](#): > > The main this is TIMING… if you can concentrate massive force on a small point, you get mind expanding effects… if you spray it on at a distance from your target location, most is wasted in air currents… > > The make these teeny tiny 2 ml glass bottlers with screw caps they sell at essential oil stores (great because they have tight seals too), you can drop two or three in a pocket and grab one when you need to go nuclear… don’t waste pearls before swine… if you want to ad a fragrance you have a perfect cover story… hint: use the highest quality stuff and nothing but.. some anthropologists tried handing out various fragrances to the Wodaaabe men during their annual mating rituals… they went for the Chanel and wouldn’t touch the rest (which was cheap crap, they instinctively knew quality)… you might fill 1 ml. with primo fragrance and 1 ml. with concentrated mone, unless you want to go stealth… > > A lot of those bozos will probably start turning gay on each other… Holy shit I have to try that!