# Another God damn 'Hello!' **URL:** \ **Category:** Introductions - New Users, Say "Hello"!\ **Created:** [August 27, 2011, 1:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/another-god-damn-hello/52027 "2011-08-27T01:34:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Scepticalbutintrigued](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7bcc69/32.png) [@Scepticalbutintrigued](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Scepticalbutintrigued)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 1:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/another-god-damn-hello/52027/1 "2011-08-27T01:34:37Z")
I’m a 23 year old English male, and am just beginning a PhD in Philosophy at a top university. I am quite good looking (tall, well groomed and in good shape) and depending largely on my mood, am confident and good with girls. However, I am a perfectionist, and often look to gain any edge I can find in the mating game, and more generally, in succeeding in many endeavours. This involves gathering the wide range of information on ‘pick-up’ and self-improvement and spending my time and money towards many self-improving possessions and experiences. To this end, I have experimented with pheromones before (from other brands), and have done quite a bit of sifting through all the information available on the internet about them. I am impressed by this forum and am about to order a wide range of Androtics [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/). With that said, I am cynical about pheromones, and feel reluctant to attribute them responsibility of any success I have achieved when wearing them. Perhaps this reluctance dampens the placebo effect achievable through the faith I often find on forums. Perhaps not. Anyway, it’s certainly fun experimenting and (we hope) it surely can’t hurt, bar side-effects and the ‘overdosing’ problems, of course. A $25 voucher sounds nice, as $200 dollars is a big investment for a poor-ass Londoner like me… Much Love ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyHard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnnyhard/32/1753_2.png) [@JohnnyHard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyHard)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 1:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/another-god-damn-hello/52027/2 "2011-08-27T01:34:58Z")
Welcome! You found the right place! Hi, cool you do everything what is possible. A superb starting point. 🆒 In what way do you need help to improve your game? Opening, staying in sets, rapport, attraction etc.? We have many different products for different situations. By the way what race are your target group and how old are them? No worries, they are no placebo, I mean the mones from here, they are like tools of your own personality and social skills. I think you have the right things. So, go ahead and boost them… 😉 If you tell us also something more about you, your hobbies for example, you can get also the really nice gc. Best wishes. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Pagodeiro](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pagodeiro/32/1226_2.png) [@Pagodeiro](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pagodeiro)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 1:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/another-god-damn-hello/52027/3 "2011-08-27T01:35:08Z")
**Hello and be welcome here at this cool Forum ..** **you finally joined in .. great to see this ..** it´s exactly like you say … each advantage you can get … you should get … PUA + Mones .. equals Dynamite .. even in London … what do you think about Gambler´s stuff ? .. experimenting with mones can´t hurt … hey .. even Bayboy from Croatia uses them …and Ross Jeffries . not to mention the ones from whom we don´t know .. with mones it´s like with most things in life .. the real fun comes from personal experience .. what Products from other sources have your tryed out ? and what experiences have you made with them ? well to get a good stash of mones needs some investment so you should definately get your GC … to dampen down the costs .. tell us more about you in order to qualify for it . sooo … what kinda effects are you expecting from the mones … what about your social skillz .. where do you see your sticking points in your Game .. where do you need the Edge just check the link to see what´s required to qualify for it **[https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-qualify-for-a-25-gift-certificate/19934](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-do-i-qualify-for-a-25-gift-certificate/19934)** have you already seen someting that has catched your interest on the store .. let us know . i think you´ve checked the sticky threads … they cover the basics on how to use mones … i´m not sure if you need to read up on them … but it won´t hurt .. well… best improvement comes with writing down your success stories and misadventures .. so i´m looking forward for more posts from you here . have a cool time **Pago** ---
**Author:** ![Oasis314](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/oasis314/32/219_2.png) [@Oasis314](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Oasis314)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 1:39am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/another-god-damn-hello/52027/4 "2011-08-27T01:39:16Z")
Hey there! Welcome to [PTalk.com](http://PTalk.com)! Nothing wrong with being cynical. It provides opportunities to open more windows in our thoughts and lifestyle. What changes everything is the point that you are willing to give it a go. And after you receive your GC, you would be able to do just that with minimal investment costs. Are you looking to use mones as a means to expand and improve in your social skills and relationships? Mones are tools, and like any tool, are useless by itself unless they are used by a person with initiative and with ideas. Most do not attribute success in using them by itself, because the person driving them is still the natural person. Great that you look at it that way, I can see that you would do great if you were to start on this path of research. Cheers! ---
**Author:** ![jackdon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecae2f/32.png) [@jackdon](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jackdon)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 1:52am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/another-god-damn-hello/52027/5 "2011-08-27T01:52:57Z")
Hey mate, i’m new too, and from the UK Got some IS, IH, TUTH, and AMMO coming, keep in touch bro, i’ll let you know my experiences! I did alot of research, and this place looks PROMISING. xD ---
**Author:** ![Scepticalbutintrigued](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7bcc69/32.png) [@Scepticalbutintrigued](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Scepticalbutintrigued)\ **Post date:** [August 27, 2011, 2:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/another-god-damn-hello/52027/6 "2011-08-27T02:29:31Z")
Thanks for the helpful replies; I will give a detailed response tuesday - it’s approaching 3 here and I have to work long hours weekends (our government slashed funding for philosophy/political science graduates rather harshly - break out the violins guys). Very briefly though, gambler’s quite good, but never went to a workshop, just skipped through his materials. I do, like most, have specific goals when I think about it - increasing status in social settings and among my longer-term relationships, satisfying my addiction to the ego boost a girl’s laugh or sexual advance provides. I have the quite typical ambition of being some sort of alpha-male, but I never fully commit to any method - I can only devote so much time to something that may or may not be simply a craving for validation and an un-realistic level of social success that upon achievement I may not even enjoy that much… Maybe my father doesn’t pay me enough attention, I was dumped too harshly by my first love, was slightly bullied for being overly verbal and sensitive, and have a borderline body-dysmorphic obsession with how I look - overly self-conscious… Maybe that’s off the mark and introspection is not what I came here for. Oh’ look, this stream of consciousness wasn’t quite as brief as I had intended it to be. Anyway, I was scammed by Phelure a few years back, but I think that love-scent’s products (I’ve tried Chakira, edge, edge trust, and Scent of Eros) are decent. As mentioned, I am cynical about how much mone causality there really was. Next on my background experiments (and yes I can appreciate the sports-psychology-esque wisdom that approaching anything this half-heartily will lead to failure) I was going to order A314 and Ammo for a daily combo, and TUTH for night-life stuff. Anyway, I’ll follow the voucher link and provide some entertaining and maybe even edifying (mis/)adventure stories with mones and some more personal stuff about my game. I am, in fact, after a 2 week holiday in Croatia and a week in Amsterdam for work (and fun times with mushrooms and dutch friends), on the brink of moving from a more theoretical interest and background effort to improve my social skills and flirting style by speed-reading through the plurality of so-called ‘guru’ materials towards a more geeky, advanced and holistic (PUA/ the game/paragon project/ mystery method/ even gambler) orientation with more emphasis on actually going out and forcing practical experience upon myself. I guess the reason why I never took the leap and went full on with this stuff was that my situation was never really dire; I am just an overly curious, obsessive, and greedy chap, who likes to have a bibliography and maximum set of resources behind him whenever he competes for a prize (of sorts). Again, I will go into what inspired this shift (failure and the realisation that it need not all be the same ol’ self-fulfilling self-help crap, but may actually be what I need for what I really want). Yet, I will still beware not to fall too far into the comforts of online social networks, pick up or [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/)… I have a phobia, I guess. Until then, good-night gentlemen. ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyHard](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnnyhard/32/1753_2.png) [@JohnnyHard](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyHard)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2011, 12:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/another-god-damn-hello/52027/7 "2011-08-28T00:45:31Z")
> [@Scepticalbutintrigued](#): > > Thanks for the helpful replies; I will give a detailed response tuesday - it’s approaching 3 here and I have to work long hours weekends (our government slashed funding for philosophy/political science graduates rather harshly - break out the violins guys). > > Very briefly though, gambler’s quite good, but never went to a workshop, just skipped through his materials. I do, like most, have specific goals when I think about it - increasing status in social settings and among my longer-term relationships, satisfying my addiction to the ego boost a girl’s laugh or sexual advance provides. I have the quite typical ambition of being some sort of alpha-male, but I never fully commit to any method - I can only devote so much time to something that may or may not be simply a craving for validation and an un-realistic level of social success that upon achievement I may not even enjoy that much… Maybe my father doesn’t pay me enough attention, I was dumped too harshly by my first love, was slightly bullied for being overly verbal and sensitive, and have a borderline body-dysmorphic obsession with how I look - overly self-conscious… Maybe that’s off the mark and introspection is not what I came here for. Oh’ look, this stream of consciousness wasn’t quite as brief as I had intended it to be. > > Anyway, I was scammed by Phelure a few years back, but I think that love-scent’s products (I’ve tried Chakira, edge, edge trust, and Scent of Eros) are decent. As mentioned, I am cynical about how much mone causality there really was. Next on my background experiments (and yes I can appreciate the sports-psychology-esque wisdom that approaching anything this half-heartily will lead to failure) I was going to order A314 and Ammo for a daily combo, and TUTH for night-life stuff. > > Anyway, I’ll follow the voucher link and provide some entertaining and maybe even edifying (mis/)adventure stories with mones and some more personal stuff about my game. I am, in fact, after a 2 week holiday in Croatia and a week in Amsterdam for work (and fun times with mushrooms and dutch friends), on the brink of moving from a more theoretical interest and background effort to improve my social skills and flirting style by speed-reading through the plurality of so-called ‘guru’ materials towards a more geeky, advanced and holistic (PUA/ the game/paragon project/ mystery method/ even gambler) orientation with more emphasis on actually going out and forcing practical experience upon myself. I guess the reason why I never took the leap and went full on with this stuff was that my situation was never really dire; I am just an overly curious, obsessive, and greedy chap, who likes to have a bibliography and maximum set of resources behind him whenever he competes for a prize (of sorts). Again, I will go into what inspired this shift (failure and the realisation that it need not all be the same ol’ self-fulfilling self-help crap, but may actually be what I need for what I really want). Yet, I will still beware not to fall too far into the comforts of online social networks, pick up or pheromone… I have a phobia, I guess. > > Until then, good-night gentlemen. Wow, superb intro dude, please wait on Mickaelia for the gc, you have it for sure. 😉 For the alpha thing is A314 the ne plus ultra. It’s a self-confidence booster and give you high status, serious trust and respect. High value for pick up and also great for the workplace. The only problem is it’s maybe for some women, younger women too intimidating. I would add some social things or maybe you take his little brother IG, Mr. Charm in the bottle + respect. Younger women like it really much. You are right TUTH is the thing for club game, but please also add some comfort elements, maybe you have the same problems with younger ones. It’s sexual like hell… 😛😉 The best comfort and bonding thing you can get is MX412. IO is a fast icebreaker, more in the face like Scent of Eros and [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) is a incredible mood booster with a exciting aura. You can add also all together. I hope this stuff brings you to the next level. Seduction time… 😛😉 ---
**Author:** ![Scepticalbutintrigued](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7bcc69/32.png) [@Scepticalbutintrigued](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Scepticalbutintrigued)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 12:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/another-god-damn-hello/52027/8 "2011-08-29T12:56:27Z")
Again, I have to be brief today, but I changed my mind thanks to Johnny Hard, and am going to try TUTH, AMMO, IO, and instead of A314 I will use IG, but should I go for double or single strength? More specifically, is double strength IG less intimidating that standard strength A314? Also, I am new to forums and I didnt mean to make my own answer the best answer, lol. Thanks guys ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 1:39pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/another-god-damn-hello/52027/9 "2011-08-29T13:39:22Z")
I’d suggest that at 23, you will still have a reasonable natural none production so would be better to leave double strength [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) and TUTH till you have found your effective dose. Socials are a different matter and yes, I would suggest you go for double strength there. 🙂 A314 and IG are very different creatures - You simply cannot compare them that way. ---
**Author:** ![Scepticalbutintrigued](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7bcc69/32.png) [@Scepticalbutintrigued](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Scepticalbutintrigued)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 2:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/another-god-damn-hello/52027/10 "2011-08-29T14:27:55Z")
ok, I planned to go for single strength Ammo & Tuth, but would you say that I will get better results flirting with women and being within social groups in the day time with one spray of both double strength IG & IO and one spray of single strength Ammo, or another combination or even single strength social ones instead? I want value for money, so if I buy single and end up doing two sprays of each, won’t this be the same? What are the main ways A314 and IG differ; I thought that they were similar but A314 commands more respect (increases feeling of dominance) but that this can be intimidating on a younger male producing high ammounts of none? Maybe I should go for A314 after all; I want to see effects of course! At the moment I have in my cart IO, TUTH, Ammo (all single strength), and IG double strength. But I’m really not sure this is the right selection; I was planning on mixing Ammo, IO and IG most days, and then throwing in a spray of TUTH on a night out or at the right time on a date (I have the travel size TUTH as well). A314 seems to have a lot going for it, but I don’t know if it is the right thing for a 23 year old. Any thoughts?! ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 2:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/another-god-damn-hello/52027/11 "2011-08-29T14:31:59Z")
IG has a far lighter feel - much more suited to a younger guy in a social environment. Not similar at all ---
**Author:** ![Kelsey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kelsey/32/8468_2.png) [@Kelsey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kelsey)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2011, 11:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/another-god-damn-hello/52027/12 "2011-08-29T23:02:39Z")
Welcome to pherotalk Skeptical! It is quite fine to be skeptical and I don’t think that will effect your results if you are willing to at least give it a try. You already received some good advise and skeptics like yourself always do your hwk so I know you put in some good research time b4 ordering. Let us know how these products worked for you. **Your gc was issued! 😉**