# Another question from a newb

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**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [March 14, 2009, 9:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/another-question-from-a-newb/27052 "2009-03-14T09:46:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Marshallenator](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marshallenator/32/2158_2.png) [@Marshallenator](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Marshallenator)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2009, 9:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/another-question-from-a-newb/27052/1 "2009-03-14T09:46:07Z")

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Gonna try and make this short (its 2:40 am where im at, last time i checked the clock it was midnight lol).

I ordered pretty much the whole instant line in to-go sizes (except IFM, which was out of stock, and Instant jerk, cause I’m a peaceful kinda guy).  
I ordered it on tuesday, got free 2-day shipping, but it’s still not here yet.

Anyways…

My sister Invited her friend (a girl that I like) over tonight (i guess it last night now), so she might stay the weekend, and if i get my package today (don’t know if they deliver on saturdays), I was gonna try it out around this girl.

My question is, what do I use? She’s pretty much frozen. doesn’t kiss or hug guys, not sexually active (but she’s not a virgin), never had a boyfriend, doesn’t show emotion much, kinda shallow, kind of a gold digger, etc…

…and she acts all bored and aloof like it’s going out of style (and she can be a bit mean…)

My sister said a guy would be lucky to get to and past “first base” with her…

…but I must admit I still want her, and I’m willing to try.

So thats why I’m wondering what single or combo I should try.

We’re both good friends, so I don’t have to worry about that.

I’m thinking maybe an IO and IH combo…

…and maybe TUTH (since we won’t be out in public).

any suggestions?

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**Author:** ![hoaxey](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hoaxey/32/182_2.png) [@hoaxey](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hoaxey)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2009, 11:07am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/another-question-from-a-newb/27052/2 "2009-03-14T11:07:35Z")

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> [@Marshallenator](#):
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> (don’t know if they deliver on saturdays),
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> any suggestions?

DHL doesn’t do services on saturdays. So nah you probably won’t get it delivered.

Try IO which is meant to be good for new users =)

Don’t think you should use tuth (as i know on myself) at 19 you produce enough of your own [pheromones](https://a314.com/), so you will come off as too horny, possibly might scare her =D

Try one spray of IO see if u notice any difference for a day, if not, next day up the dose to two.

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [March 14, 2009, 2:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/another-question-from-a-newb/27052/3 "2009-03-14T14:50:50Z")

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im with hoaxey,  
only if there is a choice,  
id use instant honesty.

honesty and openess have the same pheros in it, but in different ratios.  
you might get a “we’re tight” vibe with the IH.

maybe a spray of shine to lighten her mood up.

what i forget sometimes is that even though these formulas have a specific goal/intention,  
they are all attractive to some some degree.

some more than others,  
but then you dont know which ones work for which person until you start playing with them 🙂