Jas, why BetaNol? I thought people have been using A314 + IH and A314 + CTTM to ‘death’ and the rapport benefits that BetaNol brings to A314 are very well known.
As for P90, tacitus did think it had an ‘empathetic leadership’ aspect to it at: P90 barely registers even at 250 mu: subtle, a touch social dominant? (P90 barely registers even at 250 mu: subtle, a touch social dominant?). However, with all due respect to tacitus who got so many things right, noone else had that effect. Still, it might be interesting as a ‘compare and contract’ with BetaNol as they seem similar: P90 + A314 vs BetaNol + A314.
In any case when mixing putatives with A314, I hope the fixatives are at maximal levels – users have noticed that most of the putatives do not last long without strong fixatives. Some of the people who got the best results from the putatives ended up using strong fixatives to ‘extend the effects’ (like Tacitus with Monolaurin, Sandalo with Glucam P-20, and Warren who was going to try some Dipropylene Glycol).
I think you mean P80 – this might be suited to the ‘Master & Commander’ type edition of A314 (see this thread on P80): ‘Heavyweight’ effect for more personal power: P80 + A314 vs AndrostEnone + A314 (‘Heavyweight’ effect for more personal power: P80 + A314 vs AndrostEnone + A314)
Other useful add-ons to A314 may be:
P93 see the following thread: P93 as a way of further increasing A314's potential gains in Personal Power (P93 as a way of further increasing A314's potential gains in Personal Power)
P83 see the following thread: P83 as a way of further increasing A314's potential gains in Personal Power (P83 as a way of further increasing A314's potential gains in Personal Power)
Yea since you mention it, P85 might be an interesting add on as well to A314 mainly working to increase communication, credibility and trust…
P85... a nice decent buzz with no profundity (P85... a nice decent buzz with no profundity)
tacitus (September 1, 2006):
“ P85… a nice decent buzz with no profundity
P85 (https://pheromonelabs.com/) I would categorize as closer to P87, perhaps without the keen clarity of P87… wore a good 30 mu (Microgram - Wikipedia) of P85 (https://pheromonelabs.com/) and went out to eat… the room was soon upbeat and chatty… in a wholesome, talky way… like P87 (https://pheromonelabs.com/) there is some of the cobweb clearing, depression eliminating uplift… a lowering of self consciousness… nothing romantic though, no visual glows, no sexy rushes…”
Most magnetic pheromones for men? (Most magnetic pheromones for men?)
Marik (June 17, 2007):
“…There is also something attracting with the **P84 (https://pheromonelabs.com/)-P85**…”
A mix of manly/sexy putatives (A mix of manly/sexy putatives)
Marik (July 17, 2007):
“…For they all give a masculine vibe but each with a different taste.
P84 (https://pheromonelabs.com/) seems to be the strongest of the mentionned above.
P85 (https://pheromonelabs.com/)** is more gentle i found**…”
P85... a nice decent buzz with no profundity - #2 by SteveO (P85... a nice decent buzz with no profundity - #2 by SteveO)
SteveO (September 13, 2007):
“Interesting little thing happened today with my testing of **P85 (https://pheromonelabs.com/)! I know this is a way old thread, but what better way to keep the forum clutter free than to add to a tacitus thread. **
**I’ve been using P85 (https://pheromonelabs.com/) by itself for the last couple of days. Last night at a local book store some college kids got real chatty with me. It was the type of chat you reserve for “trustworthy” old friends. A little disconcerting to hear what they were telling me, but all the same, I got that vibe they felt as if they could relate to me. **
**Today at work my boss up and tells me how much he appreciates me and (no lie) how trustworthy he feels I am. He tells me he has a big project going in Mississippi beginning next year and he’d like me to run it. **
We’ve always have had good talks but he has never said anything like that before.
**I’m wondering what other people might be getting from P85 (https://pheromonelabs.com/) and if it is still being experimented with. I don’t see many new threads at all on it. **
I used 25 mcg (Microgram - Wikipedia) unscented to back of hair at 9am.”
P85... a nice decent buzz with no profundity - #3 by tacitus (P85... a nice decent buzz with no profundity - #3 by tacitus)
tacitus (September 13, 2007):
“Seems about right for both P84 (https://pheromonelabs.com/) and P85… P85 (https://pheromonelabs.com/) feels like a stronger version of P84 (https://pheromonelabs.com/)… P84 was my “talk show host” pheromone… you have this confidence exuding, let’s discuss the matter, active listening, getting through-ness…”
P85... a nice decent buzz with no profundity - #4 by SteveO (P85... a nice decent buzz with no profundity - #4 by SteveO)
SteveO (September 14, 2007):
“Very interesting. I’m going to have to use this one for comfort building.
Thanks for the insight tacitus”
P85 a nice surprise (P85 a nice surprise)
m3turbo (December 2007):
“P85 a nice suprise
Today I added P85 (https://pheromonelabs.com/) to my usual cocktail of pheros and I am quite pleased. Ther were no negative reactions at all. Three different people from two different classes who I can never seem to get to talk to me finally came out of their shell a little bit today . P85 (https://pheromonelabs.com/) seems to be a sort of trustworthy adult type vibe . It seems to be a mature sort of phero. Not sexual but good for communication. More testing needed but so far so good. ”
https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p85-a-nice-surprise/6979/3
m3turbo (December 2007):
“Sometimes I opt to make my own blend of Androsterone, Stenol, and stenone to replace the ammo when I feel like using a different scent. But basically the mix is still the same. Adding P85 (https://pheromonelabs.com/) sort of gives you a little more credability and trustworthyness.”
https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p85-a-nice-surprise/6979/4
m3turbo (December 2007):
“Just an update, the girls who had sort of come out of their shell yesterday continued to do so even more today. P85 (https://pheromonelabs.com/) still good. Some girls who usually take notice of me have backed off a little so P85 (https://pheromonelabs.com/) is definitely changing my aura a little bit. More testing needed.”
suitable pheros to use for a shy woman? (suitable pheros to use for a shy woman?)
m3turbo (December 2007):
“P85 (https://pheromonelabs.com/) and or TAL (https://pheromonelabs.com/). These two really bring all females but especially the awkward ones out of their shell. ”
suitable pheros to use for a shy woman? (suitable pheros to use for a shy woman?)
m3turbo (February 1, 2008):
“I am still using about 12.5 mcg per application of p85 (https://pheromonelabs.com/) …”
Aside from 'the big four' (P 74, 79, 83, 93), what are your favourite putatives? - #2 by Carrie (Aside from 'the big four' (P 74, 79, 83, 93), what are your favourite putatives? - #2 by Carrie)
Carrie (January 1, 2008):
“…P85 (https://pheromonelabs.com/) yielded more aggressive helpfulness from young female retail clerks…”