# any ideas??

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**Created:** [February 26, 2007, 8:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-ideas/2238 "2007-02-26T20:16:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Pharcyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b2d939/32.png) [@Pharcyde](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pharcyde)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 8:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-ideas/2238/1 "2007-02-26T20:16:05Z")

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this wednesday my crush has 3 midterms and an assignment due. she sits right by me during her 2nd test that day so i want to get her something to make her feel good (shes been getting beat up a lot recently), but i have no ideas. a stuffed animal is probably too forward so thats out, but maybe a single rose. any other suggestions??

(aww, and i just thought a little note of encouragement to go with it would rock. how sweet am i???🆒 )

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**Author:** ![Thalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f475e1/32.png) [@Thalion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Thalion)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 8:30pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-ideas/2238/2 "2007-02-26T20:30:14Z")

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Maybe I’m out of practice, but a rose would probably be just as forward (if not moreso) than a stuffed animal.

A lot of it depends on context. Time and place and that sort of stuff as well as how well you know this person.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 8:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-ideas/2238/3 "2007-02-26T20:38:32Z")

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> [@Pharcyde](#):
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> this wednesday my crush has 3 midterms and an assignment due. she sits right by me during her 2nd test that day so i want to get her something to make her feel good (shes been getting beat up a lot recently), but i have no ideas. a stuffed animal is probably too forward so thats out, but maybe a single rose. any other suggestions??
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> (aww, and i just thought a little note of encouragement to go with it would rock. how sweet am i???🆒 )

Have you made your intentions known to her? Perhaps talking to her and asking her out is much better of an idea.

Giving gifts should be reserved for special occasions for girlfriends or you will quickly become “just friends” while she is out partying with the bad-boy.

Sorry but I say NO WAY! I always have gotten much better response by telling a girl how I feel. It presents you as a man in touch with who he is and not afraid of rejection which promotes an air of confidence.

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**Author:** ![Pharcyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b2d939/32.png) [@Pharcyde](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Pharcyde)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 11:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-ideas/2238/4 "2007-02-26T23:24:44Z")

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yah, i asked her out a few weeks ago. shes just got out of a 4 yr relationship and wants some solo time though. and i just mean getting her a flower is less forward cuz theyre only a couple bucks and not big and flashy.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [February 26, 2007, 11:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-ideas/2238/5 "2007-02-26T23:51:55Z")

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> [@Pharcyde](#):
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> yah, i asked her out a few weeks ago. shes just got out of a 4 yr relationship and wants some solo time though. and i just mean getting her a flower is less forward cuz theyre only a couple bucks and not big and flashy.

But it tells her the wrong thing. By giving her a flower, a symbol of relationships, courtships, and what have you, you are telling her, I don’t really care that you said no to me already.

The best thing you can do to get this girl to notice you is ignore her, move onto the other girls in class. Build your social value amongst the others and she will see you are not needy of her and then she will want in your life.

If she doesn’t it’s her loss.

Sorry I still say no flowers, no gifts. If you give her anything you are trying to buy her admiration and she, as a person, is not for sale. If she is then stay away from her.

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**Author:** ![Nunya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac8455/32.png) [@Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nunya)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 12:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-ideas/2238/6 "2007-02-27T00:17:20Z")

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skip the trinkets, slip her the note. 😉

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**Author:** ![Thalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f475e1/32.png) [@Thalion](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Thalion)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 12:21am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-ideas/2238/7 "2007-02-27T00:21:43Z")

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> [@Nunya](#):
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> skip the trinkets, slip her the note. 😉

Do they still pass notes in school? Isn’t text messaging the big thing now?

I agree with Steveo. Flowers represent courtship. Whew… at least SOME things remain the same.

Nunya is right. Just write her a note. Keep it light.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 12:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-ideas/2238/8 "2007-02-27T00:43:09Z")

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> [@Nunya](#):
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> skip the trinkets, slip her the note. 😉

Sorry Nunya I still disagree. The girl said she just got out of a long-term relationship. What could you possibly say in a note that would change her perception of you.

If you told me NO steveo I don’t want to date you, I just got out of a long-term relationship and I gave you a note, would you change your mind and date me? Or would you think I’m a sappy guy who is needy and really sink it home for you that indeed you do not want to date me?

The guy doesn’t want a friend here, he wants some freaky love!

If you think a note is a good idea that would change your not wanting to date, then what would that note say? That I’d love to hear.

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**Author:** ![Nunya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac8455/32.png) [@Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nunya)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 12:43am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-ideas/2238/9 "2007-02-27T00:43:42Z")

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oh yeah - you could send her a cute text message instead of the note. whatever’s clever. but yeah - as thalion said - keep it light!

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 12:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-ideas/2238/10 "2007-02-27T00:46:25Z")

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> [@Pharcyde](#):
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> this wednesday my crush has 3 midterms and an assignment due. she sits right by me during her 2nd test that day so i want to get her something to make her feel good (shes been getting beat up a lot recently), but i have no ideas. a stuffed animal is probably too forward so thats out, but maybe a single rose. any other suggestions??
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> (aww, and i just thought a little note of encouragement to go with it would rock. how sweet am i???🆒 )

Pharcyde, maybe I’m not reading this right. Do you want to date this girl or just be a guy friend of hers that she feels safe talking about her boyfriends with?

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**Author:** ![Nunya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac8455/32.png) [@Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nunya)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 12:48am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-ideas/2238/11 "2007-02-27T00:48:34Z")

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> [@steveo](#):
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> Sorry Nunya I still disagree. The girl said she just got out of a long-term relationship. What could you possibly say in a note that would change her perception of you.

how about this:

“I know it’s been a rough week, but good luck with the exam! I know you’ll ace it.”

and just leave it at that.

She may not want to date him now, but that doesn’t mean he might not grow on her, if he’s around, just supportive enough, but never fully available.

it’s happened to me on more than one occassion. The guy i’m dealing with now, i said no to repeatedly over several years. when i was finally ready, he was right there to swoop in. And I had to give him credit for being clear, consistent and persistent, without ever being my bitch. if you know what i mean.

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 12:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-ideas/2238/12 "2007-02-27T00:56:27Z")

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> [@Nunya](#):
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> how about this:
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> “I know it’s been a rough week, but good luck with the exam! I know you’ll ace it.”
> 
> and just leave it at that.
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> She may not want to date him now, but that doesn’t mean he might not grow on her, if he’s around, just supportive enough, but never fully available.
> 
> it’s happened to me on more than one occassion. The guy i’m dealing with now, i said no to repeatedly over several years. when i was finally ready, he was right there to swoop in. And I had to give him credit for being clear, consistent and persistent, without ever being my bitch. if you know what i mean.

See you must be some super hot babe with magic powers that put guys in a evil spell. Sorry, no offense meant, but either a girl is interested or not. I could never wait around and be there for someone who’s not there for me. So how long did this guy have to wait around for you to get interested in him? That’s right several years. OK pharcyde if you get started now in a few years you MIGHT get your chance.

But hey what do I know, I only have 4 girlfriends and a mistress 😃

Go ahead Pharcyde write your note and have a go at it. I just stick by my post that before you know it this girl will be off with another guy or back dating the guy she broke up with.

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**Author:** ![Nunya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac8455/32.png) [@Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nunya)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 1:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-ideas/2238/13 "2007-02-27T01:00:19Z")

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well see that’s the thing - he didn’t wait around for me. he was just around. but never with a sniff of desperation. and always with other options.

that doesn’t discount the fact that i’m a super hot babe with magic powers tho.

jsut sayin’.

Pharcyde - are you looking to hit and quit it with this girl, or are would you like something real with her? If you want something real, this may be a long term project. But keep yourself busy while you work it out.

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**Author:** ![Mtnjim](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mtnjim/32/2010_2.png) [@Mtnjim](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mtnjim)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 1:05am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-ideas/2238/14 "2007-02-27T01:05:04Z")

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I would have to agree with _both_ Nunya and Steveo. Send her that light note, then work the other ladies. The note will put you in her mind, then showing you have other “options” will resonate when she is ready to start dating again. You can’t “force” things, I learned that the hard way long ago.

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**Author:** ![Nunya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac8455/32.png) [@Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nunya)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 1:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-ideas/2238/15 "2007-02-27T01:13:27Z")

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> [@Mtnjim](#):
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> The note will put you in her mind, then showing you have other “options” will resonate when she is ready to start dating again.

my thoughts exactly. 😉

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**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 1:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-ideas/2238/16 "2007-02-27T01:13:54Z")

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> [@Nunya](#):
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> that doesn’t discount the fact that i’m a super hot babe with magic powers tho.

Nunya, I bet you are a babe 😛

You have my attention.

Nunya you do have to admit that perhaps you are not the norm. What percentage of women who get notes from guys who they are not interested in dating for whatever reason, will change there minds. I bet you its very low.

There are not many guys who understand what you are saying though. Even if they did understand they would be way to needy and hanging around always looking for the in. Hey I’m a guy and believe me I have been there and it does not work.

Pharcyde you have to ask yourself how much of your life do you want to invest in this girl? Only you can answer this and trully I wish you the best of luck. Keep us informed how it goes though.

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**Author:** ![Nunya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac8455/32.png) [@Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nunya)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 1:29am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-ideas/2238/17 "2007-02-27T01:29:23Z")

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> [@steveo](#):
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> Nunya you do have to admit that perhaps you are not the norm. What percentage of women who get notes from guys who they are not interested in dating for whatever reason, will change there minds. I bet you its very low.

i think it’s also important to make the distinction - is she just not ready for YOU, or is she not ready period?

In my case - the shop was closed for everyone. So i was equal opportunity in shutting guys down. But sometimes women say that to let a guy down gently too.

also another point - does he really wanna be the rebound guy? that’s only fun if you’re in it for the sex, not if you’re in it for a relationship.

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 1:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-ideas/2238/18 "2007-02-27T01:54:56Z")

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> [@steveo](#):
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> Sorry Nunya I still disagree. The girl said she just got out of a long-term relationship. What could you possibly say in a note that would change her perception of you.
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> If you told me NO steveo I don’t want to date you, I just got out of a long-term relationship and I gave you a note, would you change your mind and date me? Or would you think I’m a sappy guy who is needy and really sink it home for you that indeed you do not want to date me?
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> The guy doesn’t want a friend here, he wants some freaky love!
> 
> If you think a note is a good idea that would change your not wanting to date, then what would that note say? That I’d love to hear.

SteveO-  
_im going to SPANK you_.

first of all, a short BLUNT note-  
sprayed with either instant shine or IO (light and fun)  
NOT saying “im so not worthy of you”,as steveO is portending

[http://www.smilieshq.com/smilies/tongue0020.gif](http://www.smilieshq.com/smilies/tongue0020.gif)

i thought the whole point of the note was to make her feel good because she was getting beat-up???

so a note saying :

breathe in;breathe out…mantra: _something cute and uplifting inserted here_

shes breathing in the shine and reading something that may make her laugh.

so many ideas, so few victims!!!

[http://www.smilieshq.com/smilies/evilgrin0007.gif](http://www.smilieshq.com/smilies/evilgrin0007.gif)

BTW, a note _with the intention of upliftment and a giggle_ would definately let my guard down around someone i thought was hunting me 😉

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**Author:** ![Nunya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ac8455/32.png) [@Nunya](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Nunya)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 1:56am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-ideas/2238/19 "2007-02-27T01:56:39Z")

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oooh! good call Lor! he should totally spray it with something good.

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**Author:** ![Lor](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lor/32/759_2.png) [@Lor](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Lor)\
**Post date:** [February 27, 2007, 2:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-ideas/2238/20 "2007-02-27T02:01:14Z")

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> [@Nunya](#):
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> oooh! good call Lor! he should totally spray it with something good.

gals are clevah

[http://www.smilieshq.com/smilies/love0084.gif](http://www.smilieshq.com/smilies/love0084.gif)

instant shine me thinks!

she will think of him wherever she smells _THAT_ scent, and he could leave little “think of me” trails.

so so sexxay…

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