# Any Luck With Other Phero Brands? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [November 18, 2011, 2:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-luck-with-other-phero-brands/53382 "2011-11-18T02:58:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 9:22am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-luck-with-other-phero-brands/53382/21 "2011-11-19T09:22:22Z")
> [@andromun](#): > > Thanks bro - you are right. I have used; Athena 10x, Dr. Amend’s Advantage and Pherlure. I actually stopped using pheros for a long time just because those didn’t work so well. > > Then I stumbled on Androtics and I got my monies worth here. Athena and Dr Amends are honest pheromone researchers the formulas are just rather weak. Pherlure is a joke but smells nice. Love scent doesnt really make many of there own products. They are more of a mini mall of mones from other vendors who are trusted and been in the business a long time. I think Chikira may be the one they actually did themselves. If its on LS you can trust them but keep in mind effectiveness will vary. There are a handful of other companies that are good. The ones I can mention like natural attraction and liquid alchemy sell quality stuff. There are a few others I cant mention that sell good quality products. The one you indicated though not only is unethical but there products are very low quality. I tested a few and its the first time a “pheromone” if thats what you want to call what they use made me ill. You have to be careful who you buy from and dig a little into there background and find out who they are. You dont want to buy from someone just in it for the money because they cut corners and buy from China so your never really sure what your getting quality wise. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Gslinger](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnny_gslinger/32/748_2.png) [@Johnny\_Gslinger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Johnny_Gslinger)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 2:54pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-luck-with-other-phero-brands/53382/23 "2011-11-19T14:54:08Z")
After spending thousands of dollars on different companies, I’ve found that AD gives the most consistent results There’re a few good companies out there that have pretty good products. In terms of good bang for buck there’re a few, however with some of these companies, I’ve experienced varying quality, some quite stark in fact with different batches. One of the most common reasons why people try out other stuff is because they’re either curious or find that AD’s stuff is expensive but that’s because you pay premium to get premium. I do admit of being quite the bargain hunter at times, but in my experience, AD’s stuff has almost always been consistent and what works well for me. Take your time familiarising yourself with AD’s product line first. They’re the most consistent and with the amount of resources and community at your fingertips, familiarise yourself with the aspects of pheros, learning how to use them, gauging self effects, recognising hits and learning how to tweak pheros based on your situation and condition. That way you’ll know a good product when you find one. There’re other good products out there but I always measure them up against AD because to me AD’s the standard, and where I started out. AD is a good place to learn how to walk first before you try going out there to run. In my opinion AD has three killer products, A314, mx297 and [P74](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/p74/). During my lean times I’ve tried finding substitutes but nothing I’ve seen and tried out there on the market has ever come close to touching these. If you’re on a tight budget, you can find a variety of substitutes out there, the socials, the nol products, the A1 products but if you can afford it, go with AD. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [November 19, 2011, 3:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-luck-with-other-phero-brands/53382/24 "2011-11-19T15:10:52Z")
Another in support! - This is exactly why I’m getting tired of seeing A1 threads again and again. We know where to get it if we want and can discuss its use here (within the limitations above), there is K-Train’s excellent advice on how to use it here already and brilliant discussion on how to dovetail it with AD’s range and certain other products. And I’d hazzard a guess that the basic skills learned in dosing and mixing A1 have also helped a good number of us get a better understanding of phero mixing in general. Which helps no-end. 🙂 What more do you need? ---
**Author:** ![mcmsinger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@mcmsinger](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mcmsinger)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 7:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-luck-with-other-phero-brands/53382/27 "2011-11-20T07:04:20Z")
> [@John\_Sebastian](#): > > Thank you I’ll pass that along, there’s a whole thread somewhere around here. Beyond that, we are still getting harassing voicemail from the owner of another company within this industry (that I wont give the dignity of being named), and she is still under threat of being stalked. Its pretty disgusting. > > But we are our own little island from now on and as she’s said above, we keep up what we do and will continue to support honest people. I like how Androtics tries not to be bias and attacking other companies just because they are rivals. It’s good business sportsmanship to recognize competitors who compete fairly with you and don’t copy you or do any other underhanded bullshit. Example: You mentioned Love Scent and giving some credit to them as a decent company with decent products. I like that you recognize competitors and be objective about their products. I think Androtics wants to make it clear that they don’t hate competitors - it’s just that some competitors do underhanded and very uncivil things and that’s why some competitors are not allowed to be mentioned here nor given respect. Competitors who are civil, ethical and offer their own original products deserve their credit here and they do receive that credit. It’s just good business sportsmanship. Competition are your best teachers. Make friends with them and learn from them when they beat you instead of engaging in uncivil conduct. Sometimes your rivals see your positive attitude. You befriend them and they decide that you aren’t too bad so they cut you a business deal in a joint venture project which becomes the breaking point of your business success. Only immature, jealous and unsuccessful people send harassing messages to competitors. The time, energy and resources used on that nonsense can be used on your own business. The best competitors are those who completely ignore you and just focus on their own business - making it better and better. John - let them keeping sending harassing messages. It only hurts them as their resources are unfocused on their own damn business. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [November 20, 2011, 9:42pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-luck-with-other-phero-brands/53382/28 "2011-11-20T21:42:08Z")
> [@mcmsinger](#): > > John - let them keeping sending harassing messages. It only hurts them as their resources are unfocused on their own damn business. Your encouragement means a lot to us, thanks! And you’re right - it will only breed negativity in their own lives. We will just move on to the science and helping you guys out 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![andromun](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/andromun/32/365_2.png) [@andromun](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/andromun)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2011, 12:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-luck-with-other-phero-brands/53382/29 "2011-11-21T00:58:04Z")
I want to thank everyone on the board for all your tips on this post. I really appreciate your input - I think I’m going to stick with androtics as my source for quality pheros. Thanks!! [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-luck-with-other-phero-brands/53382.md?page=1)