# Any mixes with Androstenetrione

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-mixes-with-androstenetrione/67098>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [March 30, 2017, 6:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-mixes-with-androstenetrione/67098 "2017-03-30T06:08:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![batman721](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47774/32.png) [@batman721](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/batman721)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 6:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-mixes-with-androstenetrione/67098/1 "2017-03-30T06:08:14Z")

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So I have yet to purchase my first batch of pheros and have been doing quite a bit of research. I’ve read about the effects of Androstenetrione, (IE: beautification) and was wondering if there were any pheros that contained a significant amount of this phero. I’ve heard the p86 has similar effects, but is this true?

Thanks in advance

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 9:26am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-mixes-with-androstenetrione/67098/2 "2017-03-30T09:26:50Z")

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P86 is the one most strongly suspected to be Trione but the way AD work, we don’t really know.

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**Author:** ![batman721](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47774/32.png) [@batman721](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/batman721)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 2:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-mixes-with-androstenetrione/67098/3 "2017-03-30T14:46:27Z")

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Thanks Mobo. So is P86 the best choice for a phero with “beautifying” effects? If not, what product ,from AD or other, would you recommend. Lastly, is a beautifier really necessary in a fallout mix?

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**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2017, 11:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-mixes-with-androstenetrione/67098/4 "2017-03-30T23:20:26Z")

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You won’t need it in any base mix, no. For strategic use when you want to take a developing fallout up a gear, or steer it for a specific occasion, yes it is useful.

If you are wanting to use it as a primary, maybe think again. IMO P86 is best kept in a secondary/supporting role to your primary attractor.

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**Author:** ![batman721](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47774/32.png) [@batman721](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/batman721)\
**Post date:** [March 31, 2017, 12:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-mixes-with-androstenetrione/67098/5 "2017-03-31T00:03:37Z")

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Makes sense. Thanks again Mobo
