# any signs of addiction to instant shine? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [August 8, 2008, 6:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-signs-of-addiction-to-instant-shine/17145 "2008-08-08T18:04:45Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2008, 6:43pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-signs-of-addiction-to-instant-shine/17145/22 "2008-08-10T18:43:44Z")
> [@](#): > > As far as I know Gegogi has never made a profit from pheromones. I believe he is a college professor. Well, I’ve not received any cash, only sexual favors. ---
**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2008, 6:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-signs-of-addiction-to-instant-shine/17145/23 "2008-08-10T18:45:41Z")
> [@Gegogi](#): > > Well, I’ve not received any cash, only sexual favors. I’d ask if the favors were from SteveO or Tisha, but I know you’re sworn to secrecy. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2008, 6:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-signs-of-addiction-to-instant-shine/17145/24 "2008-08-10T18:47:35Z")
> [@PAE](#): > > whooaaaaaa!!! > > I dont remember saying anything remotely close to you being paid by whatever. And for your information (which you know as well as i do) you work for Androtics. Maybe not directly, but indirectly. There is a very clear correlation between Androtics and Pherotalk. > > Secondly. I read what he wrote. He said “it is technically impossible to be addicted to Pheromones…perhaps psychological dependence”… hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm… perhaps it IS possible to be addicted to pheromones. Just by going off what Gegogi said. His words not mine. > > Thirdly, I suggest you read what I wrote before you go telling me to read what someone else wrote. > > Fourthly, guy who started this thread. It is QUITE possible to be addicted to pheromones, just like gambling/drugs/sex/etc. Be careful about your business, and dont listen to these jokers telling you that “there is no possible way to be addicted to these substances”… a lot of jibber jabber with not a lot of facts backing it up… they are just the possibly biased possible unbiased opinions of some of the people that work directly and indirectly with the website that makes money off of whether you think pheromones are addictive or not. First off Tisha23 does NOT work for Androtics and basically you are spreading untruths. Tisha23 is a forum moderator who was chosen based upon her ability to be honest and willing to help. Not only that she is a volunteer. She doesn’t get paid a dime or compensated in any way. The only joker on this site is YOU and the only jiber jaber without facts is you. Citing the facts, lets hear them or please just keep trolling elsewhere. You are the only one on here that is emphatically stating as truths that pheromones will become addictive, but where are your facts? I don’t think I’ve ever read anyone becoming addicted to scents and after all when it comes right down to it pheromones are in their rawest forms scents. Please state as fact what you know and cite your sources. 🙄 ---
**Author:** ![PAE](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pae/32/2189_2.png) [@PAE](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PAE)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2008, 6:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-signs-of-addiction-to-instant-shine/17145/25 "2008-08-10T18:49:58Z")
You’re writing and argument are getting weaker and weaker. Your assertion: no way are pheromones addictive My assertion: pheromones could possibly be addictive The assertion that needs to be proved here is yours. Trying to prove a negative is impossible because you have to show us that not once has anyone ever been remotely addicted to pheromones, in any case, ever. Good luck. Maybe someone has had problems after taking a shower… maybe in some cases, someone needed a spray of A314 to get through the day without a mental breakdown… maybe, just maybe. Dont come at me with your “well the nasal passages select the molecules that go into the brain through the wiebufjdncs fvdfbj… there for it is 100% impossible to be addicted to pheromones…100% IMPOSSIBLE” And I explicitly stated, you do not get a pay check directly from Androtics, but the success of them clearly has an effect on this website that you are running. Are you telling me that if Androtics and pheromones in general are a complete bust with ZERO users, that you would still be running this forum? Is that what you are saying when you tell me that you have never made one dime off pheromones? And to top that off, you go on to say that you get big discounts on their stuff. Wow. I’ve seen this on this thread already multiple times, you people say one thing and then later in the paragraph you say the exact opposite…“there is no way pheromones are addictive… but you could be dependent on them”…“I dont make a single dime off pheros, but I get huge discounts from doing this” The level of how bad you guys are contradicting yourself is so outrageous, that I am beginning to think that you have been sarcastic throughout this entire thread. Because there is no way that you can truly believe all the things you have said here, since they contradict the hell out of themselves. -Nick go Blazers ---
**Author:** ![Robbie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2acd7d/32.png) [@Robbie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Robbie)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2008, 6:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-signs-of-addiction-to-instant-shine/17145/26 "2008-08-10T18:50:22Z")
Yikes! Talk about being the wrong time to make a joke about SteveO and Tisha… 😮 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2008, 6:50pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-signs-of-addiction-to-instant-shine/17145/27 "2008-08-10T18:50:45Z")
> [@](#): > > Well, I’ve not received any cash, only sexual favors 😮 No kissing and telling 😃 > [@](#): > > I’d ask if the favors were from SteveO or Tisha, but I know you’re sworn to secrecy. 😃 ROFL Tisha ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2008, 7:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-signs-of-addiction-to-instant-shine/17145/28 "2008-08-10T19:02:08Z")
> [@](#): > > In medical terminology, **addiction** is a state in which the body relies on a substance for normal functioning and develops [physical dependence](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_dependence). It is a term that is specifically applied to [drug addiction](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_addiction). When the drug or substance on which someone is dependent is suddenly removed, it will cause [withdrawal](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Withdrawal), a characteristic set of signs and symptoms. Addiction is generally associated with increased [drug tolerance](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_tolerance). In physiological terms, addiction is not necessarily associated with [substance abuse](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substance_abuse) since this form of addiction can result from using [medication](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medication) as prescribed by a doctor. > However, common usage of the term addiction has spread to include a wider range of meanings than simply physiological addiction, including ones associated with [psychological dependence](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_dependence). In this context, the term is often reserved for [drug addiction](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_addiction) and [substance abuse](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substance_abuse) problems, but may also sometimes be used to refer to behaviours that are not generally recognised by the medical community as problems of addiction, such as [compulsive overeating](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsive_overeating). > The term addiction is also sometimes applied to compulsions that are not substance-related, such as [problem gambling](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_gambling) and [computer addiction](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_addiction). In these kinds of common usuages, the term addiction is used to describe a recurring [compulsion](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsion) by an individual to engage in some specific activity, despite harmful consequences to the individual’s health, mental state or social life. For the 4th time > [@](#): > > Technically it’s impossible to be addicted to pheromones. They are not drugs and have no physical withdrawal or other side effects. Otherwise you’d have problems after taking a shower. **Perhaps you have developed a psychological dependence on using something you think makes you feel good, sorta like always wearing your favorite color, comfort eating, etc** Show me what you have ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2008, 7:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-signs-of-addiction-to-instant-shine/17145/29 "2008-08-10T19:04:07Z")
> [@PAE](#): > > oh, and Tisha, I AM saying you get paid by this site and Androtics, because you know you do. > > Always consider the motives behind the people who are giving you “advice”. We know Tisha’s motives, what are mine? What do I gain out of telling someone that pheromones could possibly be addictive? > [@PAE](#): > > [Snip]And I explicitly stated, you do not get a pay check directly from Androtics, but the success of them clearly has an effect on this website that you are running. Are you telling me that if Androtics and pheromones in general are a complete bust with ZERO users, that you would still be running this forum? Is that what you are saying when you tell me that you have never made one dime off pheromones? And to top that off, you go on to say that you get big discounts on their stuff. Wow. Contradictory?😕😮:o So which one is it, she does or doesn’t get paid. I think someone needs some ishine! Tisha doesn’t run the forum friend: I do 😛 I give many many users discounts for reporting. Who reports and does the most: Tisha23 so of course she gets the standard discounts, plus she is the first one to get all the new test mixes and goodies and yeah I send them out for free. Damn tootin and she’s worth every test opportunity I can get from her. I especially love when I or Tisha or many other members tell a new user that mones wont work for them. I guess you missed all those posts? Convenient! You know you had some credible debates when you started and I was actually liking this thread, but then you started your petty name calling and accusations which truthfully say volumes about they type of person you are. If you want to have a debate then please stick to mature levels and cite sources and stp with the childish nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2008, 7:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-signs-of-addiction-to-instant-shine/17145/30 "2008-08-10T19:05:23Z")
Havent read the thread. but I just felt like chiming in. Pheromones themselves are not addicting, however, the hobby of collecting pheromones may very well be addicting. I know when I first started coming here, I wanted to try everything, mix everything etc etc. Now I days, I sort of know what Im looking for, so I know specifically what I want to buy. Now. could I stop wearing pheromones right now, overnight. Thats a toughy, heres where my addiction comes in. I dont know. Ive been wearing pheromones for what 3 years now? Ive become used to wearing them. and having that ‘aura’ around…If andro disappeared, would you look for other pheromones are just settle for cologne? thats a good question to ask yourself, if you are addicted or not.as for Ishine, no its not addicting. the product themselves are not, the hobby of collecting them, using them, I believe, are.If you think outside the box, we all have a pretty weird hobby ffs. We put slap human musks on our skin lol. If thats not a tad bit weird, I dont know what is, but that is what this place is for, there are weirder hobbies/fetishes. but hey, all I know is my game has stepped up in the past 3 years, so thats all that really matters to me, oh and the perks…Im always wearing nice fragrance, for all Im concerned Id be wearing some (insert macys brand cologne for $175) anyways…without the pheromone plus. ---
**Author:** ![PAE](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pae/32/2189_2.png) [@PAE](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PAE)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2008, 7:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-signs-of-addiction-to-instant-shine/17145/31 "2008-08-10T19:06:33Z")
i dont need to show you what I have, you just showed me what I have in your last post. “Impossible to be addicted the pheromones” definition of addiction " The term addiction is also sometimes applied to compulsions that are not substance-related, such as problem gambling, computer addiction" … sounds like pheromones can be inserted right here… I’d like you to say right now, for the record, the ‘it is impossible to be addicted to pheromones’. Since that is what you know to be fact. Say that it is impossible. ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2008, 7:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-signs-of-addiction-to-instant-shine/17145/32 "2008-08-10T19:09:34Z")
I should also contest that IShine is not addicting, because Im sure users could stop using it overnight. perhaps settle for ammo or something. proof that the spray in itself is not addicting. ---
**Author:** ![PAE](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pae/32/2189_2.png) [@PAE](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PAE)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2008, 7:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-signs-of-addiction-to-instant-shine/17145/33 "2008-08-10T19:11:17Z")
wow, I say ‘jokers’ one time and it is blasphemy! I am sorry if that hurt your feelings to the point that anything I say after that is worthless and it makes me a horrible person to you. I wish I could take it back, so you guys would have nothing to discredit any and all of my opinions with. ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2008, 7:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-signs-of-addiction-to-instant-shine/17145/34 "2008-08-10T19:11:31Z")
> [@PAE](#): > > i dont need to show you what I have, you just showed me what I have in your last post. > > “Impossible to be addicted the pheromones” > > definition of addiction " The term addiction is also sometimes applied to compulsions that are not substance-related, such as problem gambling, computer addiction" … sounds like pheromones can be inserted right here… > > I’d like you to say right now, for the record, the ‘it is impossible to be addicted to pheromones’. Since that is what you know to be fact. Say that it is impossible. Nah. I think its safer to say “[Pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) THEMSELVES are not addicting”…is that a false statement PAE? ---
**Author:** ![PAE](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pae/32/2189_2.png) [@PAE](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PAE)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2008, 7:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-signs-of-addiction-to-instant-shine/17145/35 "2008-08-10T19:14:04Z")
uhhhh, examine, this game might be somewhat over your head. Your argument there is like saying…“crack is not addicting, because a junkie could just inject some meth and rail a few lines of coke and be fine for the next few hours – proof that drugs in itself are not addicting” ---
**Author:** ![PAE](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pae/32/2189_2.png) [@PAE](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PAE)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2008, 7:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-signs-of-addiction-to-instant-shine/17145/36 "2008-08-10T19:14:59Z")
yes, that is a false statement. ---
**Author:** ![PAE](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pae/32/2189_2.png) [@PAE](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PAE)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2008, 7:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-signs-of-addiction-to-instant-shine/17145/37 "2008-08-10T19:16:17Z")
My rep was at 34 a few minutes ago, now its at 2, with zero rep power. I guess I shouldnt have disagreed with the admins. Your wrath has been felt tisha/steveO ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2008, 7:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-signs-of-addiction-to-instant-shine/17145/38 "2008-08-10T19:18:06Z")
You should check your rep then. It has nothing to do with me. ---
**Author:** ![PAE](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pae/32/2189_2.png) [@PAE](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PAE)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2008, 7:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-signs-of-addiction-to-instant-shine/17145/39 "2008-08-10T19:22:05Z")
There is that same assertion. I’ll try and speak in simple terms for those of you who cant understand me… I know it was not you directly!!! But someone on here who respects you and sees that you have disagreed with me and also insulted my credibility, could have considered that enough to hinder my rep. Now, that is how you indirectly had an effect on my rep. I’ll try and speak in simple terms for those of you who cant understand me… ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2008, 7:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-signs-of-addiction-to-instant-shine/17145/40 "2008-08-10T19:22:58Z")
> [@PAE](#): > > uhhhh, examine, this game might be somewhat over your head. Your argument there is like saying…“crack is not addicting, because a junkie could just inject some meth and rail a few lines of coke and be fine for the next few hours – proof that drugs in itself are not addicting” no no no. my arguement is. crack the actual drug, like meth and heroin, are addicting. collecting baseball cards, are addicting, but are the fucking cards addicting. NO THEY ARE NOT. its that fucking simple ffs. I know I didnt just write 2 paragraphs for the shit to still go over your head ffs. ---
**Author:** ![examine](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/examine/32/1665_2.png) [@examine](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/examine)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2008, 7:27pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-signs-of-addiction-to-instant-shine/17145/41 "2008-08-10T19:27:21Z")
> [@PAE](#): > > yes, that is a false statement. ok. explain to me, biologically, how pheromones (something we produce naturally btw) are addicting. I can explain how nicotine is addicting, but Id like to know your thoughts on how something we produce naturally is addicting. do tell. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-signs-of-addiction-to-instant-shine/17145.md?page=1) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-signs-of-addiction-to-instant-shine/17145.md?page=3)