# Any tried IJ + IH? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 9, 2011, 7:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-tried-ij-ih/50234 "2011-05-09T07:47:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![rfhvhtoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@rfhvhtoo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rfhvhtoo)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 7:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-tried-ij-ih/50234/1 "2011-05-09T07:47:00Z")
Just wondering if anyone has tried this mixture and the results they got. I’m thinking it’ll give a slightly badboy, confident, yet someone a girl can talk to and connect on a deeper level than just small talk. but i have no clue so what’s your story?? ---
**Author:** ![Fade1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fade1/32/1949_2.png) [@Fade1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Fade1)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 7:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-tried-ij-ih/50234/2 "2011-05-09T07:53:39Z")
I started spewing very negative trash about the military, in front of my WW2 vet grandpa. Wouldn’t recommend it unless you’re fantastic at holding your tongue 😃 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 8:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-tried-ij-ih/50234/3 "2011-05-09T08:20:15Z")
Yes - Interesting night! 😮 😃 Very nearly got in a fight and ended-up being proposed to. Next time I wore it was also pretty extreme but I managed to avoid both violence and nuptuals. ---
**Author:** ![Godhand](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/godhand/32/2378_2.png) [@Godhand](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Godhand)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 9:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-tried-ij-ih/50234/4 "2011-05-09T09:34:29Z")
Yes. I’ve used it in several mixes which I cover in my “The Mad Scientist Returns” thread. Works good. ---
**Author:** ![data4](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/data4/32/272_2.png) [@data4](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/data4)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 11:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-tried-ij-ih/50234/5 "2011-05-09T11:28:49Z")
IJ + IH? I’d have to call that the classic Dylan McKay mix. Just needs a Brenda Walsh to complete the picture. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![lifeisgood7](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lifeisgood7/32/1834_2.png) [@lifeisgood7](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lifeisgood7)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 11:35am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-tried-ij-ih/50234/6 "2011-05-09T11:35:27Z")
ive used it. if you are using it with around a woman, make sure there is already enough rapport built up for attraction…or she’ll feel horny but really uncomfortable around you. in my own experience, even with one spray, i had to buffer it a lot. IJ has a really strong distinct smell. buffer it with like 2-3 sprays of IH. also, buffer it with some shine also 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![lifeisgood7](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/lifeisgood7/32/1834_2.png) [@lifeisgood7](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lifeisgood7)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 11:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-tried-ij-ih/50234/7 "2011-05-09T11:38:25Z")
but of course, spot test 🙂 everyone is different!!! try it and report back!!! ---
**Author:** ![rfhvhtoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@rfhvhtoo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rfhvhtoo)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 3:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-tried-ij-ih/50234/8 "2011-05-09T15:04:56Z")
I’m gonna order some IH (cause i’ve got 3 bottles of jerk already) and give it a shot, test for a week and let you know how it goes. Thanks for the info all!! ---
**Author:** ![rfhvhtoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@rfhvhtoo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rfhvhtoo)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 7:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-tried-ij-ih/50234/9 "2011-05-09T19:26:30Z")
I’ve heard IO is good at starting the conversation and IH helps you get into deeper levels of conversation. I’m wondering now is there 1 putative or MX that can help conversation AND attraction? Because I don’t want to use more Jerk if I dont have to… ---
**Author:** ![Fade1](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/fade1/32/1949_2.png) [@Fade1](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Fade1)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 7:59pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-tried-ij-ih/50234/10 "2011-05-09T19:59:37Z")
Why not try AMMO? It has alpha AND beta androsterone (IO/IH) as well as a dash of androstenone (TUTH/IJ) but not too much. As far as i can tell it’s one of the best bar/club products. That’s not really my scene though so I don’t know first hand. ---
**Author:** ![rfhvhtoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@rfhvhtoo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rfhvhtoo)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2011, 10:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-tried-ij-ih/50234/11 "2011-05-09T22:22:14Z")
> [@Fade1](#): > > Why not try AMMO? > It has alpha AND beta androsterone (IO/IH) as well as a dash of androstenone (TUTH/IJ) but not too much. > > As far as i can tell it’s one of the best bar/club products. That’s not really my scene though so I don’t know first hand. [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) has actually become one of my favorite Stand alones. But I enjoy the INtensity of IJ when it comes to the night scene, and idk how safe it would be to mix. But I may actually just give that i shot as well. I need to get a new bottle of ammo anyways. anyone else tried this mix? Ammo + IJ? ---
**Author:** ![Blacky\_Chan](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/blacky_chan/32/973_2.png) [@Blacky\_Chan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Blacky_Chan)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2011, 12:24am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-tried-ij-ih/50234/12 "2011-05-10T00:24:13Z")
> [@Fade1](#): > > Why not try AMMO? > It has alpha AND beta androsterone (IO/IH) as well as a dash of androstenone (TUTH/IJ) but not too much. > > As far as i can tell it’s one of the best bar/club products. That’s not really my scene though so I don’t know first hand. Ammo is = A-nol, Erone, and None ---
**Author:** ![Godhand](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/godhand/32/2378_2.png) [@Godhand](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Godhand)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2011, 6:20am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-tried-ij-ih/50234/13 "2011-05-10T06:20:35Z")
> [@rfhvhtoo](#): > > Ammo has actually become one of my favorite Stand alones. But I enjoy the INtensity of IJ when it comes to the night scene, and idk how safe it would be to mix. But I may actually just give that i shot as well. I need to get a new bottle of ammo anyways. anyone else tried this mix? Ammo + IJ? I tried Ammo & IJ and it was overkill. Granted, I used like 5 sprays of each and had no buffers, but that was the one of the few times that I ever got a ghost effect. It also made me argumentative and short-tempered. Not enough nols in the Ammo to balance out the combined none content. And I tried it out in a strip club and then a night club. Needs strong buffers. ---
**Author:** ![rfhvhtoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@rfhvhtoo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rfhvhtoo)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2011, 8:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-tried-ij-ih/50234/14 "2011-05-10T20:53:53Z")
> [@Godhand](#): > > I tried Ammo & IJ and it was overkill. Granted, I used like 5 sprays of each and had no buffers, but that was the one of the few times that I ever got a ghost effect. It also made me argumentative and short-tempered. Not enough nols in the Ammo to balance out the combined none content. And I tried it out in a strip club and then a night club. Needs strong buffers. Yeah that’s why I’m leaning towards the instant honesty. I want that CTTM type of approach but there’s none of that left to try ---
**Author:** ![P51Mustang](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/p51mustang/32/1266_2.png) [@P51Mustang](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/P51Mustang)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2011, 9:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-tried-ij-ih/50234/15 "2011-05-10T21:03:07Z")
> [@Godhand](#): > > I tried Ammo & IJ and it was overkill. Granted, I used like 5 sprays of each and had no buffers, but that was the one of the few times that I ever got a ghost effect. It also made me argumentative and short-tempered. Not enough nols in the Ammo to balance out the combined none content. And I tried it out in a strip club and then a night club. Needs strong buffers. I don’t think 62.54 mcg of -none and 12.5mcg of steering molecules for an already aggresive mix could be buffered by AMMO, adding on another 12.5 mcg of -none, even at your age, would take a heck of a lot of socials. Which also at the breakdown rate you would still need to carry more for the effect to work in your intended ratios. ---
**Author:** ![still18](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/34f0e0/32.png) [@still18](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/still18)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2011, 2:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-tried-ij-ih/50234/16 "2011-12-11T14:53:38Z")
I’ve tried in bars/clubs and observations were: 1. 1x IJ (not so good self effects, cocky, wanted to punch someone) 2. 1x IJ + 2x IO (better self effects, buffers aggressiveness, IO does the same thing as alcohol for me, I lose my inhibitions and more confident to approach women, little rejection.) 3. 1x IJ + 2x IO + 1x IH (best combo in my opinion, creates comfort where women stay with you and are comfortable with their attraction/horniness, without IH they often walk away, IH also reduces LMR for me.) No need to add AMMO to IJ, you just need to add socials to become approachable and comfortable. ---
**Author:** ![rfhvhtoo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/53a042/32.png) [@rfhvhtoo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/rfhvhtoo)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2011, 11:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-tried-ij-ih/50234/17 "2011-12-11T23:37:06Z")
> [@still18](#): > > I’ve tried in bars/clubs and observations were: > > 1. 1x IJ (not so good self effects, cocky, wanted to punch someone) > > 2. 1x IJ + 2x IO (better self effects, buffers aggressiveness, IO does the same thing as alcohol for me, I lose my inhibitions and more confident to approach women, little rejection.) > > 3. 1x IJ + 2x IO + 1x IH (best combo in my opinion, creates comfort where women stay with you and are comfortable with their attraction/horniness, without IH they often walk away, IH also reduces LMR for me.) > > No need to add AMMO to IJ, you just need to add socials to become approachable and comfortable. Yeah I feel the same way, IJ for me is perfect for the sexual attention and attraction i need. Sometimes it can drive girls just wild as a stand alone. But 2 shots IJ, 2 shots IOx2, and 2 shots ISx2, is my favorite for party/club/bars/or knowing im gonna be around a group of women for a while.