# Anyone been "busted" with pheromones? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [March 22, 2009, 9:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/anyone-been-busted-with-pheromones/189879 "2009-03-22T09:54:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![txironhead](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/txironhead/32/595_2.png) [@txironhead](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/txironhead)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 9:54am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/anyone-been-busted-with-pheromones/189879/1 "2009-03-22T09:54:49Z")
Just curious if anyone here has had a girl find their bottle of IFM, TUTH, or any of the “blatantly” labeled (ie, something that could be construed as “coercive”) products and get upset over it. I imagine some women would feel betrayed or coerced if they discovered that the man they’re interested in has been using [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) for that “edge”, especially if they don’t understand the concepts and “limits” of pheromones. (Which IMHO is completely ridiculous, what do they think we’re doing when we’re forking over a small fortune for nice clothes, Armani Code and all the other products and rituals we use for picking up women? We’re trying to get an edge on all the other guys out there!) ---
**Author:** ![jamesbonded](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jamesbonded/32/2090_2.png) [@jamesbonded](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/jamesbonded)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 12:45pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/anyone-been-busted-with-pheromones/189879/2 "2009-03-22T12:45:09Z")
You can remove the label and write the code on the bare bottle by permanent marker. ---
**Author:** ![WildFlower](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wildflower/32/1260_2.png) [@WildFlower](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/WildFlower)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 2:47pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/anyone-been-busted-with-pheromones/189879/3 "2009-03-22T14:47:12Z")
> [@jamesbonded](#): > > You can remove the label and write the code on the bare bottle by permanent marker. lol that would probably look more suspicious. Multiple blue spray bottles with little codes on. IFM, TUTH, IS (2x). ---
**Author:** ![PheroQuirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/9e8a1a/32.png) [@PheroQuirk](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroQuirk)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 4:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/anyone-been-busted-with-pheromones/189879/4 "2009-03-22T16:10:20Z")
> [@txironhead](#): > > Just curious if anyone here has had a girl find their bottle of IFM, TUTH, or any of the “blatantly” labeled (ie, something that could be construed as “coercive”) products and get upset over it. > > I imagine some women would feel betrayed or coerced if they discovered that the man they’re interested in has been using pheromones for that “edge”, especially if they don’t understand the concepts and “limits” of pheromones. > > (Which IMHO is completely ridiculous, what do they think we’re doing when we’re forking over a small fortune for nice clothes, Armani Code and all the other products and rituals we use for picking up women? We’re trying to get an edge on all the other guys out there!) If you leave them in reasonably plain view and not carefully hidden and act like it’s no big deal, it won’t be a big deal. Girls understand the role of smell and artifice in seduction… ---
**Author:** ![castlerock](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/castlerock/32/1503_2.png) [@castlerock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/castlerock)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 4:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/anyone-been-busted-with-pheromones/189879/5 "2009-03-22T16:19:15Z")
i wouldn’t care if they saw my whole collection ---
**Author:** ![Wrlprchnx](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/wrlprchnx/32/1360_2.png) [@Wrlprchnx](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Wrlprchnx)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 5:01pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/anyone-been-busted-with-pheromones/189879/6 "2009-03-22T17:01:05Z")
Yep LTR found it - assumed things about Pheromones and got angry - I showed her the forum and my journal - No more problems (except that now my orders are going to double in size because she wants stuff too 😛) ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 5:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/anyone-been-busted-with-pheromones/189879/7 "2009-03-22T17:22:03Z")
I think that when all things are considered, there is a negative stigma surrounding pheromones, but once you get past the misinformation surrounding them, there really isn’t a problem. ---
**Author:** ![txironhead](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/txironhead/32/595_2.png) [@txironhead](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/txironhead)\ **Post date:** [March 22, 2009, 9:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/anyone-been-busted-with-pheromones/189879/8 "2009-03-22T21:08:29Z")
> [@Wrlprchnx](#): > > (except that now my orders are going to double in size because she wants stuff too 😛) Gah! Now I really can’t tell her about them, there’s no way we could afford for both of us to become [pheromone](https://a314.com/) junkies!😮 > [@](#): > > I think that when all things are considered, there is a negative stigma surrounding pheromones, but once you get past the misinformation surrounding them, there really isn’t a problem. Ah, but the big IF there is IF the person is willing to hear you out and believe you, regardless of the proof. I really don’t think in my situation she’d believe “I was trying to do this for you, to help you”, she’d probably assume that I just wanted to trick her into getting laid, even though she knows I’m not that kind of person. ---
**Author:** ![txironhead](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/txironhead/32/595_2.png) [@txironhead](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/txironhead)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2009, 5:58pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/anyone-been-busted-with-pheromones/189879/9 "2009-03-23T17:58:01Z")
Bump…I think more people have been busted than are letting on…😃 ---
**Author:** ![MHarris](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mharris/32/2107_2.png) [@MHarris](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MHarris)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2009, 6:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/anyone-been-busted-with-pheromones/189879/10 "2009-03-23T18:11:59Z")
Women in LTRs are complimented that you care about them and are interested enough in them to spice up your relationship with them. They always wonder about that… if you still care, if you still want them. Pheros would be proof that you do. Can you imagine in divorce court… “Yes, judge. My husband… tsk, tsk. He bought pheromones to seduce me, to make it like it was when we first met. When we first fell in love. When we first… touched… each other… oooohhhh… that bad, bad man” Not gonna happen, guys. Sorry. Women want to be wanted, they love to be loved. Women themselves are masters of seduction. They use many, many tools themselves, so they don’t seem to mind too much. Mostly you’d have to deal with other guy friends finding out… in which case they either think you’re silly, or they want to try the stuff for themselves. When I first heard of human pheromones, it was one of the dumbest notions to me, ever. That changed over time, of course… 😉 The only truly difficult thing I’ve found w/pheromones is telling people that they have a reality beyond the sexual. That’s not the easiest thing. I think they tend to think you’re shy, and are trying to smooth over the fact that you have (what they think of as) a giant collection of new-fangled sex toys with weird names. The problem I could imagine would be someone finding something completely innocent like A314 at work. They might think it’s inappropriate to have what the mass populace things of as a sex tool in a professional environment. (that’s why we don’t use the word “pheromone” on the product) Even things like [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) are seen through some sort of weird sex filter as soon as the word “pheromone” is mentioned. I have no idea what people are truly thinking inside when they think IH is related to sex somehow. As some sort of weird bondage tool?! To me, the name “Honesty” couldn’t be more removed from the purely sexual realm. Of course, honesty does build great relationships, and relationships often lead to sexual expression. (I’m talking purely about the name of the product here, which is rather asexual to me; the underlying molecule is, of course, useful to accentuate certain sexual mixes) ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2009, 6:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/anyone-been-busted-with-pheromones/189879/11 "2009-03-23T18:25:38Z")
Just need to create a new term for the molecules all together. “Human enhancers”? Nah… “Social Boosters”? Nah… I can’t think of a good one… ---
**Author:** ![txironhead](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/txironhead/32/595_2.png) [@txironhead](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/txironhead)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/anyone-been-busted-with-pheromones/189879/12 "2009-03-23T18:51:03Z")
I just was curious about any “negative” reactions mainly…I know in my current situation it probably wouldn’t be a good thing for my wife to find a bottle labeled “Turn Up The Heat” or even IFM. She does know about pheromones and unlike a lot of people she does believe that they work. Unfortunately, she would (at this current time) probably think I was trying to influence her by “tricking” her into feeling something she doesn’t really feel, much like trying to get a girl drunk so you can have sex with her. Which is why I’m shelving the TUTH for the moment and focusing on the [social pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/social-pheromones/) such as IFM, IH, IO and IS…and how to afford them.:o Some people might compare it to a “mind control” stimulant or something similar. Something that would force them to react in a way that they normally wouldn’t. Now technically, that’s true, it does make some people act in a way that they wouldn’t. BUT (have to put a disclaimer here before I get crucified), I don’t think it makes them do anything they wouldn’t do IF THEIR INHIBITIONS AND SOCIAL PROGRAMMING weren’t keeping them from doing it. I think “inhibition blocker” would be a good term. I think a lot of the huge hits some guys get from Ammo, IFM, MX209 and similar products are not just from the “alpha male” or “sex god” aura it induces, but also from something in the pheromone mix that lowers the woman’s natural and social inhibitions and overcomes certain women’s shyness. ---
**Author:** ![castlerock](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/castlerock/32/1503_2.png) [@castlerock](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/castlerock)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2009, 7:46pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/anyone-been-busted-with-pheromones/189879/13 "2009-03-23T19:46:20Z")
> [@MHarris](#): > > **Women themselves are masters of seduction.** They use many, many tools themselves, so they don’t seem to mind too much. Yep, they make erickson/bandler/jeffries look like small fries. They are natural at it. Tisha is always seducing me. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![wilks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f475e1/32.png) [@wilks](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/wilks)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2009, 12:04am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/anyone-been-busted-with-pheromones/189879/14 "2009-03-24T00:04:31Z")
I’ve been totally honest about it with any girl I’m willing to date. I figure it’s better than trying to hide it. She’s going to find it anyway, so why not tell her? Both girls I dated that knew about them were excited I had this new dimension to me, and thought it to be a lot of fun to guess what I was wearing and “where.” In my experience, I’ve found that my women love studying their man. On top of all that, there’s a bit of “cart before the horse” phenomenon. If she THINKS I’m wearing TUTH, then she thinks she’s supposed to be aroused and gets that way. Yes, there’s a lot of fun to be had in letting that cat out of the bag. ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2009, 2:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/anyone-been-busted-with-pheromones/189879/15 "2009-03-24T02:13:15Z")
> [@txironhead](#): > > Just curious if anyone here has had a girl find their bottle of IFM, TUTH, or any of the “blatantly” labeled (ie, something that could be construed as “coercive”) products and get upset over it. > > I imagine some women would feel betrayed or coerced if they discovered that the man they’re interested in has been using pheromones for that “edge”, especially if they don’t understand the concepts and “limits” of pheromones. > > (Which IMHO is completely ridiculous, what do they think we’re doing when we’re forking over a small fortune for nice clothes, Armani Code and all the other products and rituals we use for picking up women? We’re trying to get an edge on all the other guys out there!) Nope. Not an issue with me. I just told my husband I was going to be testing pheromones and [pheromone products](https://a314.com/shop/). He was okay with that. Diane ---
**Author:** ![CookieGirl](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/cookiegirl/32/1379_2.png) [@CookieGirl](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CookieGirl)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2009, 2:27am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/anyone-been-busted-with-pheromones/189879/16 "2009-03-24T02:27:51Z")
For the record, I’d love to see my boyfriend spray some TUTH on himself. At this point of a relationship, I feel that you should both have a complete understanding of who the other person truely is, including eachothers flaws and yet open about how the other goes about trying to change those nuances. My thoughts on it are similar to MHarris and wilks - if I found out my boyfriend was using pheros, I’d be very pleased that he went to such lengths to “spice things up”. Something about a man that constantly tries to rekindle the fire is a turn on. Same about a man that tries to better himself. And that’s without saying anything about the actual effects of the pheros themselves. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![diane999](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/diane999/32/1110_2.png) [@diane999](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/diane999)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2009, 3:37am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/anyone-been-busted-with-pheromones/189879/17 "2009-03-24T03:37:22Z")
> [@txironhead](#): > > I just was curious about any “negative” reactions mainly…I know in my current situation it probably wouldn’t be a good thing for my wife to find a bottle labeled “Turn Up The Heat” or even IFM. She does know about pheromones and unlike a lot of people she does believe that they work. Unfortunately, she would (at this current time) probably think I was trying to influence her by “tricking” her into feeling something she doesn’t really feel, much like trying to get a girl drunk so you can have sex with her. Which is why I’m shelving the TUTH for the moment and focusing on the social pheromones such as IFM, IH, IO and IS…and how to afford them.:o > > Some people might compare it to a “mind control” stimulant or something similar. Something that would force them to react in a way that they normally wouldn’t. Now technically, that’s true, it does make some people act in a way that they wouldn’t. BUT (have to put a disclaimer here before I get crucified), I don’t think it makes them do anything they wouldn’t do IF THEIR INHIBITIONS AND SOCIAL PROGRAMMING weren’t keeping them from doing it. I think “inhibition blocker” would be a good term. I think a lot of the huge hits some guys get from Ammo, IFM, MX209 and similar products are not just from the “alpha male” or “sex god” aura it induces, but also from something in the pheromone mix that lowers the woman’s natural and social inhibitions and overcomes certain women’s shyness. So, what is wrong with telling her that you are looking for ways to enhance your interactions together? It is not like she doesn’t know there is a problem, right? I think if you approach this from a proactive, positive, bonding direction, letting her know you care and want to work towards something together, you would do much better than sneaking around trying to keep a secret while trying to influence her in the shadows, always afraid she’s going to find out. The problem with hiding something is she will know something is wrong, but she won’t know what it is. Do you want her suspicious of you? Why not _engage_ her in the process. Who knows, maybe she’d like things to be better between you, too. Diane ---
**Author:** ![pherophreak](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherophreak/32/1531_2.png) [@pherophreak](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/pherophreak)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2009, 4:30am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/anyone-been-busted-with-pheromones/189879/18 "2009-03-24T04:30:33Z")
My TG found out because I told her. She was really intrigued and even asked if she could be my “guinea pig”. I guess that’s a best case scenario though. ---
**Author:** ![JohnnyPaper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/johnnypaper/32/338_2.png) [@JohnnyPaper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/JohnnyPaper)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2009, 11:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/anyone-been-busted-with-pheromones/189879/19 "2009-03-25T23:51:07Z")
One night some buddies and I got too shitfaced after a Mavs basketball game and ended up getting thrown in jail for being drunk in public. The police took bottles of TUTH, IO and [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) outta my pocket and started laughing. Hey who cares, I wasn’t embarassed. The stuff works!😃 ---
**Author:** ![djandarial](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/djandarial/32/1667_2.png) [@djandarial](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/djandarial)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2009, 8:10am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/anyone-been-busted-with-pheromones/189879/20 "2009-04-03T08:10:49Z")
I got busted with TUTH in my journal, she said… I should get a better cologune and stop skimping… This was after she was humping my leg and pouring me shots for a hour and a half, even eying me from across the bar before that… I OD on TUTH…2 sprays was overboard for me… It was funny tho… one way to get out of a horrible date, bathroom break OD on TUTH. LMFAO [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/anyone-been-busted-with-pheromones/189879.md?page=2)