# Anyone whose tried The Edge **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 18, 2012, 12:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/anyone-whose-tried-the-edge/56770 "2012-09-18T12:03:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![illmatic90](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@illmatic90](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/illmatic90)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 12:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/anyone-whose-tried-the-edge/56770/1 "2012-09-18T12:03:46Z")
How would u rank these and wat r the differences: Edge Trust Edge Unscented Edge Essentials Edge Sandalwood Which ones would mix best with the FF21 scent? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [September 18, 2012, 1:49pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/anyone-whose-tried-the-edge/56770/2 "2012-09-18T13:49:16Z")
Edge Trust is the version with Oxytocin. Not Tried it but others here have reported good things although the jury is still out on Oxytocin’s effectiveness. The rest use the same basic phero formula which is apparently the same or very similar to NPA, so they are pretty overt and best in determinedly sexual situations or around more mature women. Personally I’d place it as somewhere between TUTH and IJ in impact. Edge unscented needs a potent cover scent because it stinks. Edge Essentials is the oil version - That will be the next one I’ll try. Edge Sandalwood and Edge Diesel are the standard scented versions and yes, the scents are potent - not subtle in any way. Neither of them will go well with FF21 as they are about as strong. In fact I am puzzled at why you would want to mix any of them with [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/)? IO, IH, IS, IG or A314 would be far better/more complementary. IH/IS and A314 have both done me very well alongside Edge. Personally I’m not a fan of Lacroy scents, even though the pheros are very effective - Now I’ve tried them, I’ll be happy enough to go back to mixing NPA with my own choice of cologne. ---
**Author:** ![illmatic90](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@illmatic90](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/illmatic90)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2012, 7:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/anyone-whose-tried-the-edge/56770/3 "2012-09-23T19:38:28Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > Edge Trust is the version with Oxytocin. Not Tried it but others here have reported good things although the jury is still out on Oxytocin’s effectiveness. > > The rest use the same basic phero formula which is apparently the same or very similar to NPA, so they are pretty overt and best in determinedly sexual situations or around more mature women. Personally I’d place it as somewhere between TUTH and IJ in impact. > > Edge unscented needs a potent cover scent because it stinks. > > Edge Essentials is the oil version - That will be the next one I’ll try. > > Edge Sandalwood and Edge Diesel are the standard scented versions and yes, the scents are potent - not subtle in any way. Neither of them will go well with FF21 as they are about as strong. In fact I am puzzled at why you would want to mix any of them with Ammo? IO, IH, IS, IG or A314 would be far better/more complementary. IH/IS and A314 have both done me very well alongside Edge. > > Personally I’m not a fan of Lacroy scents, even though the pheros are very effective - Now I’ve tried them, I’ll be happy enough to go back to mixing NPA with my own choice of cologne. I have IO, ISx2, [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/) in ff21(20%) so i was thinking about using one of them instead of cologne. Should i dilute it(wat ratios) or spray the edge and cover it with one of the ff21’s? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 2:47am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/anyone-whose-tried-the-edge/56770/4 "2012-09-24T02:47:45Z")
The IO and IS will be completely obliterated by the Edge Scent but neither will adequately cover the unscented version - It can really stink! You don’t say what dose of P83 you have but unless its a hefty one, dilution will probably be impractical and again, diluting FF21 won’t be very effective because even at five or six percent, its still fairly potent and will clash badly with Edge scents. Why on earth did you get P83 in cologne strength FF21? That’s a primary scent and it will severely hamper you in finding your range of effective doses - You simply cannot use the same number of sprays as you can with [Neroli](https://a314.com/product-category/scented/androtics-neroli/) or even Akuto at 6%. ---
**Author:** ![illmatic90](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@illmatic90](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/illmatic90)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 10:28am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/anyone-whose-tried-the-edge/56770/5 "2012-09-24T10:28:14Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > The IO and IS will be completely obliterated by the Edge Scent but neither will adequately cover the unscented version - It can really stink! > > You don’t say what dose of P83 you have but unless its a hefty one, dilution will probably be impractical and again, diluting FF21 won’t be very effective because even at five or six percent, its still fairly potent and will clash badly with Edge scents. > > Why on earth did you get P83 in cologne strength FF21? That’s a primary scent and it will severely hamper you in finding your range of effective doses - You simply cannot use the same number of sprays as you can with Neroli or even Akuto at 6%. It’s 30 mcg/spray.. Which cologne would cover it good? I have cool water and true religion but ill get a different one if they ain’t good enough to cover the smell.. And wich method (diluting or cover spray).. BTW I ordered the edge Unscented and got NPA and A1 also ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2012, 12:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/anyone-whose-tried-the-edge/56770/6 "2012-09-24T12:04:53Z")
Cool Water is one that complements FF21 reasonably, so IMO you would be better making an NPA (or NPA/A1) mix with that and layering-in 1-2 sprays of your FF21 [P83](https://a314.com/product/p83/). 30-60mcg P83 is well into the effective zone for most people alongside overt none. Some IS could be useful in there too. Then leave Edge for experementing with the IO and just suffer the scent. Although I dislike Lacroy scents, I can’t say I’ve had significant negative results from them - although my best ever scent hit from Edge Sandalwood was from a gay guy - It was a real “Get down boy!” moment. :o Cool Water can handle quite hefty doses of NPA, so you have room to experement there. 0.8ml NPA diluted with 4.2ml cologne is close enough to Edge’s 1/5 mixing ratio and I’ve used NPA in cologne from 0.5 through to 1.8ml effectively around different age groups. If I’m adding-in A1, I’ll generally use 0.5 or 0.6ml in with the NPA to add 12.5 or 15mcg per spray - Remember there is already A1 in NPA and Edge, so you don’t need to mix a large dose for it to be effective. Again, Cool Water can handle this. 🙂 If you have not read them yet, there are several good threads on mixing NPA here already and K-Trains “A1 Guide” is about the best info on A1 anywhere. Also see the “A1 Mix Repository” 🙂