# Application points 101: a guide to where on the body to apply pheromones **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [September 3, 2011, 1:22pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/application-points-101-a-guide-to-where-on-the-body-to-apply-pheromones/53343 "2011-09-03T13:22:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Ragnar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@Ragnar](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ragnar)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2013, 11:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/application-points-101-a-guide-to-where-on-the-body-to-apply-pheromones/53343/61 "2013-02-27T23:11:13Z")
Does “stacking” help to prolong the effects? By that I mean applying (say) 2 sprays of Ammo to my neck, wait 15 minutes for it to dry and settle, then apply another 2 sprays to the same area. Or is that the same as just applying 4 sprays in the first place? My problem is getting mones to last an 8 hour working day, as I have almost no opportunity to re-apply discretely around 4 hours in. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2013, 1:33am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/application-points-101-a-guide-to-where-on-the-body-to-apply-pheromones/53343/62 "2013-02-28T01:33:23Z")
Stacking - not hugely IME. Which mones are you using? Some have no chance of lasting eight hours whatever you do to try and prolong things eg IS. Others can be extended maybe 20/25% by applying a thin layer of lotion over the app points and letting it settle in to your skin before spraying. The lanolin in the lotion helps form a barrier to bacteria and skin absorbtion. Any good quality hand lotion will do. The price of this is a slight decrease in ultimate diffusion/range but I’ve never found a problem and most sprays can be extended to around seven/eight, whilst oils can go for a full twelve hours in all but the hottest/sweatiest environments. Otherwise, oil-base pheros are absolutely ideal for the workplace, in a whole lot of ways, including longevity and subtlety - I try to work with just my A314 oil mostly and only apply sprays to steer/support it for specific occasions. ---
**Author:** ![Ragnar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@Ragnar](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ragnar)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2013, 9:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/application-points-101-a-guide-to-where-on-the-body-to-apply-pheromones/53343/63 "2013-02-28T09:17:12Z")
Thank you, Mobocaster! I am currently using Ammo Summmer on my right inner forearm, my personal mix of P75 and P130 (2.5mcg of each/spray) on the left inner forearm, then Instant Shine to my left neck and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) to my right neck. Three sprays of each. I do apply some moisturiser to my neck about half an hour before spraying. I wear short sleeved shirts at work, so spraying my forearms seems to work quite well for me, but re-applying is problematic. I guess switching to an oil-based mone like A314 could help, but I’m 56 and the lady I’m starting to develop a relationship with is 15 years younger than me. So I don’t want to overload on the “old reliable alpha male” signature too much! From what you say, my application points are OK, but I could probably do with applying some hand cream to my forearms about 15 minutes before spraying on the 'mones, and then adding an extra spray (from 3 to 4) to compensate for the slightly reduced diffusion? ---
**Author:** ![Tilarium](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ee59a6/32.png) [@Tilarium](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Tilarium)\ **Post date:** [March 20, 2013, 7:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/application-points-101-a-guide-to-where-on-the-body-to-apply-pheromones/53343/64 "2013-03-20T07:15:46Z")
With the birth of spring came a very random decision to buzz my head. Currently there is only a very short layer of hair on top. The hair has been one of my key application points for IS and IO mostly but sometimes IG as well. Anyone else with a buzzed head have experience with mones on the lack of hair? Is it still going to be an effective application point? ---
**Author:** ![Ragnar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e79b87/32.png) [@Ragnar](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Ragnar)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2013, 9:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/application-points-101-a-guide-to-where-on-the-body-to-apply-pheromones/53343/65 "2013-04-08T21:53:24Z")
I think applying to an almost hairless head would work well, as the head is one of the warmest parts of the body. Mobocaster, I’ve checked out various hand lotions / moisturisers; Plain old E47 seems to be the simplest, with a decent bit of lanolin in it. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2013, 2:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/application-points-101-a-guide-to-where-on-the-body-to-apply-pheromones/53343/66 "2013-04-09T02:51:42Z")
> [@Tilarium](#): > > With the birth of spring came a very random decision to buzz my head. Currently there is only a very short layer of hair on top. The hair has been one of my key application points for IS and IO mostly but sometimes IG as well. Anyone else with a buzzed head have experience with mones on the lack of hair? Is it still going to be an effective application point? Shorter the better really - Hair is a very good insulator, so denser/more volumised/longer hair seldom warms-up enough at all because body heat fails to get through it. Bald is best of all - A perfect radiator for you mones! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2013, 2:53am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/application-points-101-a-guide-to-where-on-the-body-to-apply-pheromones/53343/67 "2013-04-09T02:53:58Z")
> [@Ragnar](#): > > Mobocaster, I’ve checked out various hand lotions / moisturisers; Plain old E47 seems to be the simplest, with a decent bit of lanolin in it. Yes, that is a good one. I’m not brand-loyal here at all. If it does the job and has no damaging/irritating ingredients, all is good. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Rildontire](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rildontire/32/1369_2.png) [@Rildontire](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rildontire)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2013, 11:50am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/application-points-101-a-guide-to-where-on-the-body-to-apply-pheromones/53343/68 "2013-07-05T11:50:22Z")
What do you think of alternative application points for tuth to make it more subtle in daytime situations? I am a newbie and didn’t want to overdo it so I applied one/two sprays to my outer hips/side of my leg when using it. That way it is covered a bit by clothing and it will be subtle. Total bunk? ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2013, 2:10pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/application-points-101-a-guide-to-where-on-the-body-to-apply-pheromones/53343/69 "2013-07-05T14:10:59Z")
> [@Rildontire](#): > > so I applied one/two sprays to my outer hips/side of my leg when using it. That way it is covered a bit by clothing and it will be subtle. Total bunk? Yup - bunk! The circulation is much lower there, so diffusion will be very much lower - with clothing in the way it will probably be non-existent. And at 37, two sprays will likely be well within normal range for you anyway - Slowing diffusion with clothing is a young man’s thing - for around younger women. Us older guys need all the diffusion/impact we can get! Much better to moderate the TUTH with something social. ---
**Author:** ![Rildontire](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rildontire/32/1369_2.png) [@Rildontire](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rildontire)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2013, 2:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/application-points-101-a-guide-to-where-on-the-body-to-apply-pheromones/53343/70 "2013-07-05T14:23:51Z")
Awesome! Thanks for the info. So if I spray two products on the chest, a la IS and tuth, does it matter which one is first and if they are in the exact same spot? My guess would be IS last. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2013, 2:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/application-points-101-a-guide-to-where-on-the-body-to-apply-pheromones/53343/71 "2013-07-05T14:28:06Z")
All the sprays can be layered no problem, yes. Just leave a minute or two for each layer to let the alcohol evaporate. Its only oils you need to keep apart. I would tend to IS last, yes - Its is a lighter/faster diffusing molecule. ---
**Author:** ![Rildontire](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/rildontire/32/1369_2.png) [@Rildontire](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Rildontire)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2013, 2:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/application-points-101-a-guide-to-where-on-the-body-to-apply-pheromones/53343/72 "2013-07-05T14:34:13Z")
> [@mobocaster](#): > > All the sprays can be layered no problem, yes. Just leave a minute or two for each layer to let the alcohol evaporate. Its only oils you need to keep apart. > > I would tend to IS last, yes - Its is a lighter/faster diffusing molecule. Thank you. That helps a lot. ---
**Author:** ![hankypanky2](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/hankypanky2/32/597_2.png) [@hankypanky2](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/hankypanky2)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 11:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/application-points-101-a-guide-to-where-on-the-body-to-apply-pheromones/53343/73 "2013-10-30T11:58:16Z")
good thread. ---
**Author:** ![slevin38](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b487fb/32.png) [@slevin38](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/slevin38)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 3:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/application-points-101-a-guide-to-where-on-the-body-to-apply-pheromones/53343/74 "2014-01-13T15:05:02Z")
I just got my first batch. I got IG, IS, and Ammo. I know I have to test out what works for me, but the original post reccomends IS in the hair. Is there any reccomendations for AMMO or IG? ---
**Author:** ![Himeros](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/himeros/32/2325_2.png) [@Himeros](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Himeros)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2014, 3:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/application-points-101-a-guide-to-where-on-the-body-to-apply-pheromones/53343/75 "2014-01-13T15:08:33Z")
Just the regular spots where you usually apply your cologne (neck/chest area, wrists). I usually apply Ammo to my neck and chest. [Instant Shine](https://a314.com/product/shine/) in the hair/back of the neck/on forearms. ---
**Author:** ![NattyDread](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/dfb087/32.png) [@NattyDread](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/NattyDread)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2014, 4:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/application-points-101-a-guide-to-where-on-the-body-to-apply-pheromones/53343/76 "2014-01-30T16:51:00Z")
nice to read this… tks for that ---
**Author:** ![TheBird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc29f/32.png) [@TheBird](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/TheBird)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2014, 5:04pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/application-points-101-a-guide-to-where-on-the-body-to-apply-pheromones/53343/77 "2014-03-03T17:04:02Z")
Very important thread ---
**Author:** ![Brian\_F](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/brian_f/32/1573_2.png) [@Brian\_F](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Brian_F)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2014, 5:19pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/application-points-101-a-guide-to-where-on-the-body-to-apply-pheromones/53343/78 "2014-04-07T17:19:28Z")
Went ahead and cleaned up this thread a little. I edited out the chit chat so we can focus on the topic at hand: Application Points. If you have more juice to add to the Application Point (Best Practices) thread, by all means, submit your post! ---
**Author:** ![unrulyjess](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e36b37/32.png) [@unrulyjess](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/unrulyjess)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2014, 6:08am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/application-points-101-a-guide-to-where-on-the-body-to-apply-pheromones/53343/79 "2014-08-14T06:08:20Z")
How many sprays of Instant Heat, Instant Shine, [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) and so forth should I spray on my where? I am a gentleman in my mid fifties, and I am a newbie at this. Thank you! Jess Paul., Jr. ---
**Author:** ![mobocaster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c2a13f/32.png) [@mobocaster](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mobocaster)\ **Post date:** [August 14, 2014, 1:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/application-points-101-a-guide-to-where-on-the-body-to-apply-pheromones/53343/80 "2014-08-14T13:26:05Z")
> [@unrulyjess](#): > > How many sprays of Instant Heat, Instant Shine, Instant Honesty and so forth should I spray on my where? I am a gentleman in my mid fifties, and I am a newbie at this. > > Thank you! > > Jess Paul., Jr. We can’t tell you that - You do need to do some testing for yourself here as your dose range is affected by your own body chemistry/situational factors and of course the people around you. Although by the time we hit our fifties, you will need to chose points for maximum diffusion and any dose of an Androstenone-based product is liable to be higher, not lower, esp if the women are co-aged with us. [Previous page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/application-points-101-a-guide-to-where-on-the-body-to-apply-pheromones/53343.md?page=3) [Next page](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/application-points-101-a-guide-to-where-on-the-body-to-apply-pheromones/53343.md?page=5)