# Application points for layering IO, IS, TUTH and IFM: which spray goes where?

**URL:** <https://pheromonetalk.com/t/application-points-for-layering-io-is-tuth-and-ifm-which-spray-goes-where/1542>\
**Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\
**Created:** [January 13, 2007, 2:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/application-points-for-layering-io-is-tuth-and-ifm-which-spray-goes-where/1542 "2007-01-13T02:58:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![ICYBLUE1203](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e8c25b/32.png) [@ICYBLUE1203](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ICYBLUE1203)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2007, 2:58am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/application-points-for-layering-io-is-tuth-and-ifm-which-spray-goes-where/1542/1 "2007-01-13T02:58:48Z")

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I tried searching but came across nothing. I am wondering, when applying a mix of different sprays, where should each type go?

I recently received Instant Openness, Instant Shine, Turn Up the Heat, and [Instant Female Magic](https://a314.com/product/instant-female-magic/).

I wore the same mix I tried last night for the first time, and had interactions with two friends which were a bit flirty than usual. I would appreciate it if you someone can recommend which spray should go where?

If possible, I am meeting a “friend” in a couple of minutes to go to the mall together and would love to test it with her without her knowing.

Also, a recommendation for a club mix? I tried one spray of openness on each wrist, two sprays of shine to the face/chin area, and one spray of instant female magic to the back of the neck. (Same one i wore to school/work)

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**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2007, 4:09am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/application-points-for-layering-io-is-tuth-and-ifm-which-spray-goes-where/1542/2 "2007-01-13T04:09:34Z")

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> [@ICYBLUE1203](#):
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> I tried searching but came across nothing. I am wondering, when applying a mix of different sprays, where should each type go?
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> I recently received Instant Openness, Instant Shine, Turn Up the Heat, and Instant Female Magic.
> 
> I wore the same mix I tried last night for the first time, and had interactions with two friends which were a bit flirty than usual. I would appreciate it if you someone can recommend which spray should go where?
> 
> If possible, I am meeting a “friend” in a couple of minutes to go to the mall together and would love to test it with her without her knowing.
> 
> Also, a recommendation for a club mix? I tried one spray of openness on each wrist, two sprays of shine to the face/chin area, and one spray of instant female magic to the back of the neck. (Same one i wore to school/work)

Some places have a higher concentration of body heat than others. More heat = more diffusion. If body heat is proportional to the area of skin surface, the “Index” would be 100. Higher numbers, higher heat per square inch of surface. For example, the top of your head and back of your neck give off a lot of heat, and have the highest index numbers. Your buttocks are close to the lowest. Wrists, chest, face are all high.

One of the key questions to ask before choosing an application point is “How much do I want (or not want) this phero to affect me, versus affecting others?” Farther from nose, less it affects you.

Another is “How much do I want to be able to direct the effect to others?” Pheros to your hair or to the back of your neck, or to your chest are not very directable. Pheros on your wrist or the back of your hand can be but close to other’s noses.

So, when I wear SPACELAND, which is 50 mcg of alpha-nol per spray, I apply it to the back of my neck. A314, to my upper chest below adam’s apple. Instant Shine to my chest, neck, chin, cheeks, lips. -None to the back of my hand, armpits, belt, fly of jeans, pubes. (I will also try upper lip.) When my 4x [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) arrives, it will likely go on my wrists.

Most MX sprays I put on the back of my hands.

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**Author:** ![deletedphthalo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/73ab20/32.png) [@deletedphthalo](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/deletedphthalo)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2007, 1:26pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/application-points-for-layering-io-is-tuth-and-ifm-which-spray-goes-where/1542/3 "2007-01-13T13:26:58Z")

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You can temporarily boost the presence of a particular pheromone by rubbing a bit of water or any other liquid on the region that you sprayed to - presumably this allows the stuck molecules to rearrange and start diffusing again.

This is useful to know because you can have the [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) release at appropriate times by spraying them on places that are likely to sweat or get hot. For example, I find putting a bit of IS on my forehead or cheeks is good when I’m out dancing.

Spraying somewhere under the shirt also allows you to give it a quick “waft”, and allow you to adjust the mix slightly. For this reason, putting sexually oriented pheromones on the chest can allow you to turn up the heat when you’re chilling out with someone in a club.

I personally suspect that putting any in the head hair is a waste of time because the high surface area causes them to diffuse off much too quickly. Armpit hair is probably a bit more reasonable.

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**Author:** ![MarkL](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/markl/32/825_2.png) [@MarkL](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/MarkL)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2007, 4:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/application-points-for-layering-io-is-tuth-and-ifm-which-spray-goes-where/1542/4 "2007-01-13T16:03:29Z")

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> [@phthalo](#):
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> You can temporarily boost the presence of a particular pheromone by rubbing a bit of water or any other liquid on the region that you sprayed to - presumably this allows the stuck molecules to rearrange and start diffusing again.
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Well noted! When I’ve applied A314 at the crest of my chest, just below the neck, a spray of pheros there does seem to “relaunch” the A314. I might begin to carry a plain unscented “water plus alcohol” spray just for that purpose…

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**Author:** ![ICYBLUE1203](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e8c25b/32.png) [@ICYBLUE1203](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/ICYBLUE1203)\
**Post date:** [January 13, 2007, 5:11pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/application-points-for-layering-io-is-tuth-and-ifm-which-spray-goes-where/1542/5 "2007-01-13T17:11:38Z")

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I dont know whats wrong with me, but I cant really notice the effects? I have to keep experimenting till I get it right. If anything, people have been more open to talk to me. I already knew them but never had conversations with them. Was it me doing the work or pheromones working? Hahaha

I’m going out with a friend tonight who I’ve had romantic interest since I’ve met her my first year in college. I would really love to test something out on her. she knows i like her, but never took me seriously because of the whole friend thing and according to her, im flirty with everyone just as i am with her so she assumes im not truly interested.
