# Are copulins my problem? **URL:** \ **Category:** Women's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [June 4, 2008, 1:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-copulins-my-problem/13491 "2008-06-04T13:56:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![cuteass71](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/48db29/32.png) [@cuteass71](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cuteass71)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 1:56pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-copulins-my-problem/13491/1 "2008-06-04T13:56:00Z")
Hi Im Katy from UK, I have a problem that may seem a little silly but means so much to me. I have been in love with J for 7 years now, alas he does not feel the same, yet he hasnt left my side in all those years and we are exactly like a married couple EXCEPT there is no physical relationship, never even a kiss. Now I am quite happy to be the way we are, after a couple of v bad relationships and a breakdown I think I feel safe in this relationship, but obviously I would be happier if he was attracted to me. I dont think im unattractive, I have never had a problem with attracting men before but here is my problem relating to pheromones. I havent had a period since 1999 (I had a breakdown in 98 and only had a couple of periods that yr) so I do not menstrate at all, I have been on the contraceptive pill since I was 16 with no problems (Im now 37) and after reading about pheromones etc I have come to the conclusion that I am not releasing any copulins, plus in todays society we also cover our natural smells with deodorant, perfume etc. So my question is this, if I am not producing copulins would this stop J feeling sexually attractive towards me and if I buy [spray pheromones](https://a314.com/product-category/spray-pheromones/) would this help my situation? I should say that in the last 7 yrs J hasnt had a girlfriend he has just been with me all the time, he is not gay, he does find woman attractive/sexy and he did have a sex only relationship for 1 month in 2003 but hid it from me. Any thoughts/opinions would be most welcome please. Many thanks for your time ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 4:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-copulins-my-problem/13491/2 "2008-06-04T16:41:54Z")
Cutie- There is an article in the Theory and Abstracts section that kinda talks about this … Not sure about the title but it did discuss several of these components. Remember - the pill works basically by tricking your body into believing it is already pregnant and hence you do not ovulate. Since you have been on the pill since you were 16 - you have been sending out the [pheromone](https://pheromonelabs.com/) signature of a preganant lady since then. You are probably right about needing to throw cops into the mix. Instant Sexy A or B would do the trick … Another article - and I think it is in the abstracts section also - about a study based on a VERY small sample also discussed the sense of smell and its importance in finding a good mate. It pointed out that predominantly women were attracted to males who had a slightly different immunological genetic code then themselves - with the idea nature gives us this so that we can pick a mate who will help add to the immunological strength of any children. It went on to say that women who were on the pill had their sense of smell slightly altered. I would try to find that one also. ---
**Author:** ![inkling](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/inkling/32/2326_2.png) [@inkling](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/inkling)\ **Post date:** [June 4, 2008, 7:05pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-copulins-my-problem/13491/3 "2008-06-04T19:05:40Z")
Hi Katy Here is the first article bosshank suggested. [Copulins: pheromone excerpts from The Science of Sex](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/copulins/1601) I would try mx135 paired with copulins. mx135 has a superstar vibe to it, draws attention to you and just feels good for the wearer. My husband responds to mx135 in an adoring way. Pairing it with copulins to have him noticing you in a new light with a sexy kick couldn’t hurt. Have fun experimenting! ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 1:01am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-copulins-my-problem/13491/4 "2008-06-05T01:01:11Z")
Hi Katy First have you tried asking him why ? I am not being snarky really LOL its just that I know sometimes people hold back even in wonderful relationships for a lot of reasons that may have absolutely nothing to do with you. It could very well likely be the copulins but 7 years is a long time. I certainly think you should try every option and mones may help but you need to sit him down and tell him this is bothering you. Find out if there is a underling problem your unaware of. This will help you know how to approach it. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![lifeissweet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/97f17d/32.png) [@lifeissweet](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/lifeissweet)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 1:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-copulins-my-problem/13491/5 "2008-06-05T01:13:10Z")
> [@tisha23](#): > > Hi Katy > > First have you tried asking him why ? I am not being snarky really LOL its just that I know sometimes people hold back even in wonderful relationships for a lot of reasons that may have absolutely nothing to do with you. > > It could very well likely be the copulins but 7 years is a long time. I certainly think you should try every option and pheromones may help but you need to sit him down and tell him this is bothering you. Find out if there is a underling problem your unaware of. This will help you know how to approach it. > > Tisha Tisha has given you excellent advice. It seems what’s going on is beyond pheros so communicating is key here. Try [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) to help ease communication. I love IH. Hehe. Good luck. ---
**Author:** ![cuteass71](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/48db29/32.png) [@cuteass71](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cuteass71)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 9:02am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-copulins-my-problem/13491/6 "2008-06-05T09:02:47Z")
Hi Many thanks for all your replies, and I will fill you in a bit more. J has female issues, his mum had a break down when he wos younger say 9 onwards, and had panic attacks in front of him, and cried a lot, and got v over protective, took him n his twin out of school and home tutored them etc. So he has never had a gf and only had sex with a couple of people in his life (which is good to me lol) From what we have talked about over the years, he has a low opinion of woman that we’re a bit pathetic/silly and when he met me I was still going through a breakdown n having panic attacks etc so I think I really wos a no no, but something has kept him by my side for 7 yrs, we are exactly like a married couple, he basically lives at my house, we eat together, I do his washing etc etc but there is NO physical contact. I must also point out that since I have got better I am a different person and me n J are a lot closer now and he has opened up to me about his childhood and we get on fantastically. In my opinion he must really care about me but not find me sexually attractive. Im liking the sound of MX135 (Is that right?) and would like to try anything. Also when you say mix with copulins is there a copulin only product available?? Many thanks again for your replies much appreciated. Katy ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 9:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-copulins-my-problem/13491/7 "2008-06-05T09:59:14Z")
This go’s much deeper then [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/) can help. The similarities between yourself and his mother indicate he is not looking for a sexual partner but a replacement for his mother. I will suggest a few mones that may help but I would seriously sit him down and ask him how he feels about you. It may be hard but at least you will know and can make a decision from there. I suggest IH, this will help when you talk with him about it. MX134 which is the women’s version of A314, This will give you some empowerment and he will take what your saying to him more serious. Ishine this is upbeat and will make you both feel more comfortable. You can get a pure copulin formula at Lovescent called EOW It smells and needs to be covered. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![Kitten](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kitten/32/1051_2.png) [@Kitten](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Kitten)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 5:55pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-copulins-my-problem/13491/8 "2008-06-05T17:55:50Z")
If there’s “never even [been] a kiss,” you two are in a close brother sister friend relationship. And if he has never been attracted to you, it is highly unlikely to change no matter what you do. Sorry to be a weensy bit blunt about that. Good news is that you could try to keep what you have with your best friend guy and go out and find a sex buddy to fulfill those particular needs, if you know what I mean. Either your friend guy is already doing that type of thing on his own (maybe without you knowing!) or he is an asexual person. Either way, that’s trying to tap a dry well. Put yourself first, sweetie! I mean all of this in only the nicest sweetest way. Honest! XXOO Kitten ---
**Author:** ![cuteass71](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/48db29/32.png) [@cuteass71](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cuteass71)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 7:02pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-copulins-my-problem/13491/9 "2008-06-05T19:02:32Z")
Hi Its ok Kitten I have thought it many times myself so not offended, you should hear wot my friends think of the whole thing, they think Im a loon! J is completely aware of how much I love him, I get jealous which he allows, everything is we in his head, we buy things together, its all just so weird really, he has never been in a relationship and girls he went school with up until I met him like 20 say he never got off with girls or anythin, but I absolutely promise he is not gay, that is something that has been mentioned a lot and I know him well enough to know he is straight. I have been through the emotions of ugliness and bein old n lost my youth n beauty cus of it, but in the last yr I have been pickin up a different vibe from him, more closeness and at ease with one another, like he’s resided himself to this. Im gabbling now just spose Im v confused. I will say though its been so long since I had any physical contact I dont even think about it, I never worry Im not havin sex I just wish for it with J to seal the relationship to something real, if I make sense, plus I only feel sexyiness when Im around him. Oh well I have just ordered to go bottles of MX135, [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) and Instant sexiness, if this doesnt work then I’ll give up the goat lol no seriously Im clutching at straws and wouldn.t feel right unless I tried. Loving reading all the posts on here, so interesting been on here for hours now lol. Thanks for ur replies and welcome anymore opinions :o) ---
**Author:** ![Bella](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bella/32/1738_2.png) [@Bella](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bella)\ **Post date:** [June 5, 2008, 7:09pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-copulins-my-problem/13491/10 "2008-06-05T19:09:00Z")
Hi Katy! Welcome! 🙂 Not to be a killjoy, either, but I agree with Kit and Tisha. Seven years of this is a loooong time. My personal experience has taught me that too long a time in the “friend zone” often marks a point of no return. You can _try_ pheromones. Mx135 and [Instant Honesty](https://a314.com/product/instant-honesty/) are good suggestions. You _may_ actually get a chemically induced reaction. But the truth is it will never solve the underlying problem that exists. My bet is he’ll continue in this vein as long as you’re willing to go along with it. Why not. He has all the perks of “marriage” but none of the emotional responsibility or commitment. You, ultimately, will have to decide if you can live with a strictly “buddy” existence. I know you love him, darlin’…but this is no kind of life for a sweet girl who needs and deserves so much more. 😉 Good luck, cutie, keep us posted. We’re rootin’ for ya! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Daedelus76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Daedelus76](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Daedelus76)\ **Post date:** [June 6, 2008, 4:51am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-copulins-my-problem/13491/11 "2008-06-06T04:51:13Z")
As a guy, the dude (J) sounds like he has mental health issues. It goes beyond pheromones. He may even think you are attracted to him, but may not even care to reciprocate those feelings: he might even be “using” you unconsciously, and consciously rationalizes his behavior as acceptable or fair. Or maybe you haven’t shown any kind of body language or suggestions to him indicating you are attracted to him? I couldn’t say for certain, but there are a half dozen possibilities other than pheromones. Wearing more sexually suggestive pheromones, I’d imagine, could well bring issues to a head: decision time. That could be good or bad, depending on how you view it. You might potentially lose a “friend” over it. But you should think of yourself in this case first, too. You aren’t doing your friend any favors by allowing him to escape dealing with his past and present attachment issues with his mother, either. So think it over a good deal, consider the implications and consequences (particularly financial), and make your own judgement. ---
**Author:** ![cuteass71](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/48db29/32.png) [@cuteass71](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/cuteass71)\ **Post date:** [June 7, 2008, 2:31pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-copulins-my-problem/13491/12 "2008-06-07T14:31:37Z")
Hi well I myself have suffered many years with mental health issues, relating from childhood n stuff and have only now at 37 got to grips with them and sorted my head out, I still have issues mind but Im a much stronger person now, so I have always thought J has mental issues but if you met him he is the most level headed, hard working, nice kind person so ALL his issues lay with women/emotions. I have had a LOT of problems issues wise with men and have been v hurt too many times and I think that what I have with J is enough for me and if this is the rest of my life so be it, I can live without sex cus its safer than getting to involved too many emotions then getting hurt, but I dont see how I can help him with his issues as he is a v emotionless person they are deep deep down if anywhere he doesnt get excited or loving or soppy or say emotional words or conversations, hes a v proud person (male pride). Basically if the problem is me or him then theres nothing I can do about it just enjoy what I do have with him, but I would like to just try pheromones just in case 😉 thanks for your input its nice to hear a blokes point of view, and I thought it was v interesting you mentioned the mental health issues as Id thought it. What do you think he could be using me for? Like replacement mother, id hate it if I was, I feel old enough as it is ☹ well my package is only 50 miles away but I dont think they deliver on a sat so will be mon now, then I’ll need more advice lol katy