# Are multiple types of pheromones necessary? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [July 12, 2009, 6:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-multiple-types-of-pheromones-necessary/30629 "2009-07-12T06:46:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![backer48](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/839c29/32.png) [@backer48](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/backer48)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2009, 6:46am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-multiple-types-of-pheromones-necessary/30629/1 "2009-07-12T06:46:00Z")
I, as I’m sure others in this forum, live on a pretty tight budget. I recently saved up and bought ammo, which is what I’ve been told is a great phero to start with, and is a great stand alone. What I’m wondering is, is it essential to make combos of all the many different kinds of phero offered by androtics? how much is would the effectiveness of ammo be boosted if combined with instant openness, shine, honesty, etc. increase of 10 percent, 50 percent? ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2009, 7:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-multiple-types-of-pheromones-necessary/30629/2 "2009-07-12T07:13:13Z")
The only thing I would probably add to AMMO is either IS or IH. No need for IG, IO, or TUTH since AMMO already has these three main [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/) used in those products. Only thing AMMO doesn’t include is IS (TAA) and Beta Androstenol (IH.) If anything probably adding more Alpha Androstenol (IO) to AMMO would make it _way too_ friendly as it’ll drown out the sexual part that’s in AMMO (Androstenone.) However, adding way too much IH could do this too, but it would add more closeness and comfort to AMMO if used in a ratio that won’t drown out the -none in AMMO, so in return it could reel in the ladies a bit more. Other than that, AMMO is pretty good as is. > [@backer48](#): > > I, as I’m sure others in this forum, live on a pretty tight budget. I recently saved up and bought ammo, which is what I’ve been told is a great phero to start with, and is a great stand alone. What I’m wondering is, is it essential to make combos of all the many different kinds of phero offered by androtics? how much is would the effectiveness of ammo be boosted if combined with instant openness, shine, honesty, etc. increase of 10 percent, 50 percent? ---
**Author:** ![Mco-gnv](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mco-gnv/32/229_2.png) [@Mco-gnv](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mco-gnv)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2009, 7:34am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-multiple-types-of-pheromones-necessary/30629/3 "2009-07-12T07:34:31Z")
I read somewhere on the forum that IShine was included in [Ammo](https://a314.com/product/ammo/) v1.5 and above… ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2009, 7:57am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-multiple-types-of-pheromones-necessary/30629/4 "2009-07-12T07:57:03Z")
Nope every product in the consumer line is a stand alone. We layer here because we like to not because we have to. It depends on what kind of effects your looking for really when it comes to how much better it will make the mix work for you. Suppose your really shy, then IO would really be something that would benefit you and boost AMMO well. Suppose you are really hoping for a long term relationship then IH would be something that would be great to wear with Ammo You dont have to layer though. > [@](#): > > I read somewhere on the forum that IShine was included in Ammo v1.5 and above… 1.5 was discontinued. Ammo dosnt contain TAA or Ishine. Both Ammo and double ammo are 1.0. Tisha ---
**Author:** ![backer48](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/839c29/32.png) [@backer48](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/backer48)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2009, 9:59am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-multiple-types-of-pheromones-necessary/30629/5 "2009-07-12T09:59:55Z")
Wow, thanks you guys. i think at some point i will be able to mix and match, but for now i cant. as i read some different threads i read about people mixing a bunch of pheros and i cant really comprehend all of it! i guess its all part of getting more involved and trial/error. ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2009, 11:00am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-multiple-types-of-pheromones-necessary/30629/6 "2009-07-12T11:00:28Z")
Ammo works just fine alone…don’t sweat it. We are just like a bunch of kids, The standard box of eight crayons is all you really need but “OMG I want the box of of 64 with the built in sharpener! What do ya mean they changed the Fire Station Red to Fire Truck Red, I want Fire Station Red WAAAAAH.” LOL 😃 ---
**Author:** ![mikotorocks714](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mikotorocks714/32/1509_2.png) [@mikotorocks714](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mikotorocks714)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2009, 11:36am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-multiple-types-of-pheromones-necessary/30629/7 "2009-07-12T11:36:37Z")
LOL, that made me laugh. > [@renny](#): > > Ammo works just fine alone…don’t sweat it. We are just like a bunch of kids, The standard box of eight crayons is all you really need but “OMG I want the box of of 64 with the built in sharpener! What do ya mean they changed the Fire Station Red to Fire Truck Red, I want Fire Station Red WAAAAAH.” LOL 😃 ---
**Author:** ![moonwhisper](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/moonwhisper/32/1735_2.png) [@moonwhisper](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/moonwhisper)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2009, 11:45am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-multiple-types-of-pheromones-necessary/30629/8 "2009-07-12T11:45:01Z")
Made me laugh too, but it speaks a lot of truth. I, for one, tend to get way too excited about this stuff. And mostly that’s just because it’s a lot of fun. But you really don’t NEED more than one phero. Let’s face it, you didn’t NEED pheros at all until you found this place, and none of us need them to survive. They are an extra, an accessory, that we use to improve our lives and our enjoyment of them. But darnit, I like Fire Station Red! If I can afford more crayons, I mean pheros, then they’re a lot of fun to play with. But it’s way down this list on the budget priorities. I understand what you’re talking about money-wise. I have a large family and we are single income. It takes a lot of ingenuity to stretch it far enough. There are a lot of products I’d like to try out, but just can’t do it. I keep reminding myself that I don’t actually NEED them. ---
**Author:** ![Mco-gnv](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mco-gnv/32/229_2.png) [@Mco-gnv](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mco-gnv)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2009, 4:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-multiple-types-of-pheromones-necessary/30629/9 "2009-07-12T16:18:12Z")
Hey Tisha I found that post, from the mouth of Jas herself: > [@First order arrived: Instant Openness smells like pee to me, can I cover it?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-arrived-instant-openness-smells-like-pee-to-me-can-i-cover-it/3698/5): > > All are spiked with a phero blend to enhance effects, but I’ll list the main notes: > > Instant Shine: Primarily TAA > Ammo: Androsterone/none/nol > IFM: Androstadienone > [@First order arrived: Instant Openness smells like pee to me, can I cover it?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-arrived-instant-openness-smells-like-pee-to-me-can-i-cover-it/3698/6): > > Jas, while you are here, what is the difference between Ammo 1.0 and 1.5? I am surprised you wouldn’t list TAA as one of the primary ingredients of Ammo. > [@First order arrived: Instant Openness smells like pee to me, can I cover it?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-arrived-instant-openness-smells-like-pee-to-me-can-i-cover-it/3698/7): > > Haha, bully my dear, that is because the shipping version of Ammo is 1.0, which contains mostly those three mentioned molecules. > > Ammo v1.5 is a version that contains some TAA. > > You can also try Ammo v1.1 - v1.4, which all have different varying ratios between those 4 molecules. If anyone is interested in them, I can make sure they’re back in the cart. These haven’t been in vogue since before we even had to go’s available on the site, so maybe some newbies might like to try different flavors of Ammo. > > Off the top of my head,_I_ don’t even know the differences between them, ratio/pheromone-wise. So don’t ask! 😉 If I were to resurrect the Ammo experiment, it would be in the spirit of trying them out like an MX 🙂 Found here: > [@First order arrived: Instant Openness smells like pee to me, can I cover it?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/first-order-arrived/3698/9): > > In fact I only add instant shine as a rule to v1.0, except for my rock star mix where I added shine anyway… I think you got it from this quote: In fact Jasmin had mentioned the shiney aspect of v1.5! here’s the quote: Lor mentioned it too! And Lor was wrong too as both have the -rone… but in different doses… Its back from May 2007, and she also stated Ammo v1.5 is not the shipping version anyhow. I did remember it coming from a post by Micheal as well.I couldn’t find that though. anyways, just figured I would say. ---
**Author:** ![marty](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/marty/32/714_2.png) [@marty](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/marty)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2009, 5:03pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-multiple-types-of-pheromones-necessary/30629/10 "2009-07-12T17:03:38Z")
Alot of it is just experimentation and finding what works for you. Some of us get along fine just using Ammo, others among us have a trickier time finding something that suits their personality. ---
**Author:** ![metalTree](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b38774/32.png) [@metalTree](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/metalTree)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2009, 5:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-multiple-types-of-pheromones-necessary/30629/11 "2009-07-12T17:41:02Z")
Going out and experimenting with a different pheromone combinations can be fun (and not so fun when you O.D.). I’m sure that most people can benefit from a general purpose mix such as Ammo. But everyone has a unique natural pheromone signature so experimentation is necessary to find the most effective combination for any person. And yes, it can be an expensive hobby if you really get into it. But it’s definitely worth it! Personally I get a lot more female attention with pheromones than I ever have without. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![mutley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e79b87/32.png) [@mutley](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/mutley)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2009, 5:51pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-multiple-types-of-pheromones-necessary/30629/12 "2009-07-12T17:51:32Z")
I guess the main benefit of using one [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/) at one time is that you become the master of it and know exactly the dosage and application spots that work for you. ---
**Author:** ![Mco-gnv](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/mco-gnv/32/229_2.png) [@Mco-gnv](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Mco-gnv)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2009, 6:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-multiple-types-of-pheromones-necessary/30629/13 "2009-07-12T18:53:11Z")
Speaking of crayons, off topic i know, I have a fair assortment of them, and yet i see signatures like marty’s with 5X more crayons than I have, and I wonder- Where do you store them all? I have a large cigarette box I have been keeping mine in, but a single to-go bottle more, and it would be overflowing. Do you guys have a special closet reserved for your collections? 😃