# Are MX297 & MX301 ever going to be back? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [October 24, 2010, 8:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-mx297-mx301-ever-going-to-be-back/42836 "2010-10-24T20:16:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![PheroJack](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherojack/32/527_2.png) [@PheroJack](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroJack)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 8:16pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-mx297-mx301-ever-going-to-be-back/42836/1 "2010-10-24T20:16:04Z")
Honestly i’ve been watching the store lately and they always been out-of-stock. and now they got removed ☹ :? Any inputs? Is there a way we could know what they were made of at least (formula)? ---
**Author:** ![Jstn](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/jstn/32/848_2.png) [@Jstn](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Jstn)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 8:18pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-mx297-mx301-ever-going-to-be-back/42836/2 "2010-10-24T20:18:10Z")
I think steve posted the formula for mx301 not sure though. It says in your signature that you have 2 of MX301 and [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) already though. ---
**Author:** ![Bolkie](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/bolkie/32/1056_2.png) [@Bolkie](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Bolkie)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 8:20pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-mx297-mx301-ever-going-to-be-back/42836/3 "2010-10-24T20:20:46Z")
> [@PheroJack](#): > > Honestly i’ve been watching the store lately and they always been out-of-stock. and now they got removed ☹ :? > > Any inputs? > Is there a way we could know what they were made of at least (formula)? mx297 is available in a new scent as mx390 mx301 will not be back, but the formula is available around the forum ---
**Author:** ![PheroJack](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/pherojack/32/527_2.png) [@PheroJack](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/PheroJack)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 8:23pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-mx297-mx301-ever-going-to-be-back/42836/4 "2010-10-24T20:23:17Z")
> [@Bolkie](#): > > mx297 is available in a new scent as mx390 > > mx301 will not be back, but the formula is available around the forum yo honestly why can’t they just give us the formula for 297 too 😛? its either put it in stock or give us the formula.. _shaking_ 😛 really tho 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Vespero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vespero/32/988_2.png) [@Vespero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vespero)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 8:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-mx297-mx301-ever-going-to-be-back/42836/5 "2010-10-24T20:32:15Z")
Both of those questions have been answered in threads that pretty much stayed at the top of their respective subforums for over a week. > **[PheromoneTalk](https://pheromonetalk.com/store-announcements-feedback/whoa-where-did-everything-go-45852.html)** > > Everything about using pheromones to enhance your social life > [@How to PROPERLY make ICM (MX301)](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/how-to-properly-make-icm-mx301/42595): > > Link is from deleted thread This is ICM and this is how you make it. All 30 mL bottles at the mcg listed You must have an additional CLEAN NEW 30 ML bottle and individual pipettes for each molecule. You DO NOT reuse these! TAA ----\>30 mcg ----\>72 drops = 3.974 mcg per spray BNOL ----\>30 mcg ----\>90 drops = 4.967 mcg per spray (ANOL can be sustituted if you choose) P93 ----\>20 mcg ----\>48 drops = 1.766 mcg per spray [P74](https://a314.com/product/p74/) ----\>30 mcg ----\>55 drops = 3.035 mcg per spray NONE----\>… But, yes. They’re both gone, probably forever, and the formula for MX301 has been released, both in the form Androtics used to make it, and the one Steve himself uses. Do a bit of reading before you ask questions like this. It was pretty big news when the store was cleared, and people are still talking about it. I’m actually surprised you missed it, as it was pretty much everywhere. I’m not trying to be mean, but I know there are members here who aren’t exactly in love with you, and who might jump on a chance to criticize you further. So, don’t give them that chance. Before you make a new thread like this, do a little bit of reading, then ask yourself: Will this thread contribute anything new to the forum? If the answer is no, don’t create it. ---
**Author:** ![Vespero](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/vespero/32/988_2.png) [@Vespero](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Vespero)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 8:34pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-mx297-mx301-ever-going-to-be-back/42836/6 "2010-10-24T20:34:01Z")
And they can’t give us the formula for [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) because it’s the same as the formula for MX390 but with a different scent package, and MX390 is still being researched. Who knows? Maybe when they’re done and MX390 is retired as well, we’ll get to find out. However, I wouldn’t place any bets on it. ---
**Author:** ![Olfact\_Amorous](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/olfact_amorous/32/434_2.png) [@Olfact\_Amorous](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Olfact_Amorous)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 8:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-mx297-mx301-ever-going-to-be-back/42836/7 "2010-10-24T20:38:15Z")
> [@PheroJack](#): > > yo honestly why can’t they just give us the formula for 297 too 😛? > > its either put it in stock or give us the formula.. _shaking_ > 😛 > > really tho 😃 I’m shaking my head for even mentioning such a notion. I cringe just thinking about what oil greases the gears inside that noggin of yours. Either way its been asked and its been said many times that [MX297](https://a314.com/product/mx297/) is not coming back and the formula will not be released. Every time I try to put MX297 behind me its always Jstn or Pherojack that comes to make sure that it stays well within my mind even though they are of the past. As much as I like to linger on the past it dampens the present and hinders the future for myself and anyone else who does so. Honestly the word Experimental in the compound word of “Experimental Test Mixes” is really just another word for “finite”. Finite - a : having definite or definable limits \ b : having a limited nature or existence \ ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 9:37pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-mx297-mx301-ever-going-to-be-back/42836/8 "2010-10-24T21:37:51Z")
> [@Olfact\_Amorous](#): > > I’m shaking my head for even mentioning such a notion. I cringe just thinking about what oil greases the gears inside that noggin of yours. Either way its been asked and its been said many times that MX297 is not coming back and the formula will not be released. > > Every time I try to put MX297 behind me its always Jstn or Pherojack that comes to make sure that it stays well within my mind even though they are of the past. As much as I like to linger on the past it dampens the present and hinders the future for myself and anyone else who does so. Honestly the word Experimental in the compound word of “Experimental Test Mixes” is really just another word for “finite”. > > Finite - a : having definite or definable limits \ > b : having a limited nature or existence \ Well you chosen a different way than I would have said it but yeah the meaning is the same 😉 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Sebastian](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/john_sebastian/32/1060_2.png) [@John\_Sebastian](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/John_Sebastian)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 8:03am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-mx297-mx301-ever-going-to-be-back/42836/9 "2010-11-03T08:03:49Z")
> [@Vespero](#): > > And they can’t give us the formula for MX297 because it’s the same as the formula for MX390 but with a different scent package, and MX390 is still being researched. > > Who knows? Maybe when they’re done and MX390 is retired as well, we’ll get to find out. However, I wouldn’t place any bets on it. I wouldn’t place bets on anything around here, very unpredictable. 😉 \*\* \*\* Insert cheesy line about how the only thing you can get a sure bet on is our quality, etc. ---
**Author:** ![CoolKat](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/coolkat/32/501_2.png) [@CoolKat](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/CoolKat)\ **Post date:** [November 3, 2010, 5:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-mx297-mx301-ever-going-to-be-back/42836/10 "2010-11-03T17:35:39Z")
save MX301 for special occasions, seriously. I still got 2 [MX297](https://pheromonelabs.com/product/mx297/) to-go’s. I am going to give it to my shy friend 😃