# Are social pheromones unisex or not? **URL:** \ **Category:** Store Announcements & Feedback\ **Created:** [November 7, 2008, 12:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-social-pheromones-unisex-or-not/22611 "2008-11-07T12:24:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 5\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![freddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@freddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/freddy)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 12:24pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-social-pheromones-unisex-or-not/22611/1 "2008-11-07T12:24:22Z")
I’ve asked this question in my noob thread, but got no reply so far and I don’t want to be that annoying person reposting the same things over, but I’m kind of in a small hurry (that is, I have a very good testing conditions coming up which I’d like to use to my advantage) so to place my order (decide what I need) I want to know wether the male and female [Instant Openness](https://a314.com/product/instant-openness/), Instant Shine and Instant Honesty are the same stuff, e.g. could me and my GF use the same bottle? (With the big bottles it reads for example “Instant Shine” Feel Good Pheromone For Men/“Instant Shine” Feel Good Pheromone For Women, with the to go bottles it’s just “Instant Shine” Feel Good Pheromone - TO GO. Also the togo bottles have the same tag in the men and women category (TOGO-IShine)) Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![river](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/river/32/934_2.png) [@river](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/river)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 4:14pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-social-pheromones-unisex-or-not/22611/2 "2008-11-07T16:14:58Z")
> [@freddy](#): > > I want to know wether the male and female Instant Openness, Instant Shine and Instant Honesty are the same stuff, e.g. could me and my GF use the same bottle? Yup! All 3 can be used equally successfully for both men and women. Initially, Shine started out as a men’s product (hence it’s listed in the men’s section) but women LOVE to use it too, me included!😉 Bottle-size doesn’t matter…it’s the same stuff whether it’s TOGO sized or in the big bottles. And nope, you’re not that annoying person reposting the same things…just a guy who needs a question answered. 😃 Hope that helps you! ---
**Author:** ![freddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@freddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/freddy)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 5:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-social-pheromones-unisex-or-not/22611/3 "2008-11-07T17:41:46Z")
> [@river](#): > > Yup! All 3 can be used equally successfully for both men and women. Initially, Shine started out as a men’s product (hence it’s listed in the men’s section) but women LOVE to use it too, me included!😉 > > Bottle-size doesn’t matter…it’s the same stuff whether it’s TOGO sized or in the big bottles. > > And nope, you’re not that annoying person reposting the same things…just a guy who needs a question answered. 😃 > > Hope that helps you! You helped but also confused me a bit because I got a bit of a different answer in the other topic. > [@woofie2](#): > > I believe the mix [Instant Shine] is the same for men and women. (as the Instant Shine spray on the women’s page says for men.) > **The other socials, (IH and IO are specific to females, as they have a /w suffix, yet I know many guys who claim their girls have “borrowed” a few sprays or used half of a bottle over time)** So which is it then? Of course testing personally is the best way to find out (personal signature can affect the result somewhat, I gather), but I’d rather have the general opinion when buying for the first time. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![freddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@freddy](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/freddy)\ **Post date:** [November 7, 2008, 6:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-social-pheromones-unisex-or-not/22611/4 "2008-11-07T18:07:06Z")
Okay, I finally resolved this issue by adding IO and IH to the shopping cart from both sides. After adding “Men’s” IO & IH I added “Women’s” IO and IH (both TOGO) and went to see my shopping cart, and guess what? It just had 2 IO’s and 2 IH’s 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![tisha23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@tisha23](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/tisha23)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2008, 9:13am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-social-pheromones-unisex-or-not/22611/5 "2008-11-08T09:13:35Z")
I am glad you got that resolved freddie. Yes they are the same formula for men and women. Keep in mind that IFM is not the same. It was tweaked a little for the women to use for self effects without effecting the men in our lives. I believe that is the only one that has the same name in the mens and womens section but is different. Tisha