# Are there any health risks associated with the use of pheromones? **URL:** \ **Category:** Men's Pheromone Advice & Field Reports\ **Created:** [May 29, 2009, 1:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-there-any-health-risks-associated-with-the-use-of-pheromones/29379 "2009-05-29T13:35:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![strato](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/strato/32/2461_2.png) [@strato](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/strato)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 1:35pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-there-any-health-risks-associated-with-the-use-of-pheromones/29379/1 "2009-05-29T13:35:38Z")
Are there any? Can they change how much your own body produces [pheromone](https://a314.com/shop/)? Some of them change how you feel about certain things, kinda like sniffing gasoline. So, there must be a downside… ---
**Author:** ![Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gone_with_the_wind/32/2227_2.png) [@Gone\_with\_the\_Wind](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gone_with_the_Wind)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 1:41pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-there-any-health-risks-associated-with-the-use-of-pheromones/29379/2 "2009-05-29T13:41:56Z")
see [Instant Jerk got my ass beat. Literally.](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-got-my-ass-beat-literally/29330) . ---
**Author:** ![strato](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/strato/32/2461_2.png) [@strato](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/strato)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 1:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-there-any-health-risks-associated-with-the-use-of-pheromones/29379/3 "2009-05-29T13:53:51Z")
LOL. That’s not what I mean. No offense, but most of you probably don’t want to hear anything about a topic like this. ---
**Author:** ![kokos](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/kokos/32/874_2.png) [@kokos](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/kokos)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 2:38pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-there-any-health-risks-associated-with-the-use-of-pheromones/29379/4 "2009-05-29T14:38:49Z")
As far as i know there is no danger when using [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/shop/). There might be dangers associated with their use though, like the topic mentioned or driving while wearing Spaceland and things like that. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 3:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-there-any-health-risks-associated-with-the-use-of-pheromones/29379/5 "2009-05-29T15:32:55Z")
None that I have experienced. Or anyone in my family. ---
**Author:** ![strato](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/strato/32/2461_2.png) [@strato](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/strato)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 4:00pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-there-any-health-risks-associated-with-the-use-of-pheromones/29379/6 "2009-05-29T16:00:37Z")
Yeah, but what about long term damage, like cancer etc. They’re still chemicals that you put on your skin. ---
**Author:** ![DanMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e495f1/32.png) [@DanMan](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/DanMan)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 4:07pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-there-any-health-risks-associated-with-the-use-of-pheromones/29379/7 "2009-05-29T16:07:46Z")
Without knowing the exact ingredients and ensuring that they are put under extensive research there is no way to know the long term effects on anything like this. I know however that Androtics put a lot of love and care into their products, even ordering high quality organic ingredients over cheaper alternatives so I’m sure they would do their best to avoid anything dangerous. On the other side of the equation, I along with the majority of people I know continue to drink alcohol when we know it damages our liver and many others will smoke daily which is known to cause cancer. I even read a theory in a tabloid once that bacon can cause cancer. At the end of the day we live in both a time and society where there are potential hazards on every corner, both man made and otherwise so unless something is overtly causing you harm or has an unusually high risk then I see no need to worry. As a further note another article I saw mentioned that these packaged sandwhiches you can buy often have chemical ingredients which left even a single day past it’s date can become hazardous. Now I don’t know about your opinion but I’m sure those chemicals aren’t sitting there watching the clock and we eat this stuff! EDIT: Looks like this has already been discussed as well - [Long term health effects of pheromones?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/long-term-health-effects-of-pheromones/535) ---
**Author:** ![robert1940](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d07c76/32.png) [@robert1940](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/robert1940)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 4:08pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-there-any-health-risks-associated-with-the-use-of-pheromones/29379/8 "2009-05-29T16:08:02Z")
i am wondering too ! anyone ? ---
**Author:** ![SteveO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/87869e/32.png) [@SteveO](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/SteveO)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 4:28pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-there-any-health-risks-associated-with-the-use-of-pheromones/29379/9 "2009-05-29T16:28:21Z")
> [@strato](#): > > Yeah, but what about long term damage, like cancer etc. They’re still chemicals that you put on your skin. I would have thought that the FDA would have banned the use of cologne by now especially if it caused harmful health issues!😉 All [pheromone sprays](https://a314.com/product-category/spray-pheromones/) are are colognes with reproduced synthetic human pheromones. As you know the pheromones are already being produced by your own body already. It’s the perfumers alcohol SD38 and DPG with fragrance that are really the chemicals that could be harmful. Androtics goes out of its way to use Organic SD38 and its not cheap. I was tasked with ordering a 55 gallon drum of it the other day and I was shocked at the price. I did some dabbling with perfumers alcohol before and had bought my own. It wasn’t very expensive and yet that drum was far more costly when compared to what I paid. The difference was because Androtics sought out a source and bought Organic SD38. Jasmin and Harris believe that using products that are better for you make a huge difference. That’s also why we use one of the most prestigious labs in the USA to synthesize our chemicals for us. They use only American chemicals and I can tell you it costs more than double what most other companies out there are using. Why? Because most other companies are using Chinese labs to produce Chinese chemicals. The Chinese have very little regulatory agencies to watch over them. With China its all about money and that is exactly why they put poison in their own milk supply. It was cheaper! There are other pheromone companies that use falsified COA’s, sell harmful chemicals to kids and are just simply put all about the dollar. Our pledge is to make the world a beter place. That’s exactly why we are taking our sweet time with the Ammo project. Before we release a product to the masses we want to be absolutely sure it does not have harmful effects for anyone. Its agaisnt our grain. Can pheromones be harmful? Not when you’re buying from Androtics. Be very weary and careful of who you are buying from though otherwise. Especially companies like pherlure. A good sounding board is marketing. If they are willing to put in print anything with crazy unrealistic hype, that tells you alot about them. Pherlure uses a study from the University of Chicago that doesn’t exist. Then there’s Chris the Fraudster selling harmful chemicals to kids. Then theres Stone with their falsified COA, then there’s that company who is willing to file suit over trademark but goes about that very same act using our trademark name and products. A thief is a theif and if they are willing to do bad onto others that speaks volumes of their products. Be happy and be confident Androtics is not now or has never been about your money. We respect you and want you to ask these questions. 🙂 For more info here is a post by Jasmin: [What happened to eow? - #30 by Jasmin](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/what-happened-to-eow/22900/30) ---
**Author:** ![1904iNcUbUs](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/1904incubus/32/1694_2.png) [@1904iNcUbUs](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/1904iNcUbUs)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 7:06pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-there-any-health-risks-associated-with-the-use-of-pheromones/29379/10 "2009-05-29T19:06:21Z")
> [@gone with the wind](#): > > see [Instant Jerk got my ass beat. Literally.](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/instant-jerk-got-my-ass-beat-literally/29330) . hahahah i was just going to post this lololol ---
**Author:** ![Gegogi](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/gegogi/32/1536_2.png) [@Gegogi](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/Gegogi)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 7:25pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-there-any-health-risks-associated-with-the-use-of-pheromones/29379/11 "2009-05-29T19:25:02Z")
> [@strato](#): > > Are there any? Can they change how much your own body produces pheromone? Some of them change how you feel about certain things, kinda like sniffing gasoline. So, there must be a downside… I once got a BJ from a mone target while driving, so yeah the health risks can be serious: I almost ran off into a cane field. But as far as the physical effects of mones are concerned–as long the scent and effects of sniffing ass, pits and crotch don’t faze you, you should be okay. Nobody every bought the farm after sniffing funky pits. However the behavioral changes may have significant personal and sociological consequences: marriage, popularity, good times, promotion, rape, murder, divorce. STDs, assault, firing, etc. So, what the frick, mones are kinda like a loaded gun. Just like a handgun, you are responsible for where you aim it. Just remember, mones don’t kill people. People do… And friends don’t let friends drive while on mones…😃 ---
**Author:** ![OoohYahhh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ooohyahhh/32/1274_2.png) [@OoohYahhh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OoohYahhh)\ **Post date:** [May 29, 2009, 11:32pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-there-any-health-risks-associated-with-the-use-of-pheromones/29379/12 "2009-05-29T23:32:41Z")
> [@strato](#): > > LOL. That’s not what I mean. No offense, but most of you probably don’t want to hear anything about a topic like this. Actually, we talk about it quite a bit. From several different perspectives. Are there any immeadiate physiological or psychological risks to users? What are the long term risks to users? Are there risks to the people around us? Short term, there are always a few people who have an allergic reaction to everything. In this case it has generally been limited to a few skin rashes. Probably from the alcohol as much as anything. Even with truly massive overdoses, the effects have been not much more than a hangover. In the people around us the negative reactions have all been in the short term and, few and far between. Generally this has been because of misuse in inappropriate situations. > [@Pheros got me kicked out of yoga class](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/pheros-got-me-kicked-out-of-yoga-class/20108): > > As has been discussed elsewhere, not everyone reacts positively to pheromones. I’ve been going to this yoga class for about 3 years. I really like the teacher. I like her husband even more, so I would not try anything sexual with her, plus as I’ve gotten to know her I find she’s got some personality flaws I’m not crazy about, but still, I was working on developing some kind of friendship with her as well as her husband. To that end, I started wearing pheros to class. I tried different ones … There no long term health effects that any of us can find, outside of the fact that the mind and body need the occasional rest. > [@Any health complications from short or long term pheromone use?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-health-complications-from-short-or-long-term-pheromone-use/3562/9): > > haven’t noticed anything in myself, other than routine pheromone burnout… if I use them too much I do become indifferent, so there appears to be a self calibration process, have concluded that the best results are from intermittant use… other than that over the last decade I have no overt physiologic symptoms or changes, nothing we can see in blood testing for natural androgen/estrogen production (I get tested for a variety of hormones and by-products, like “upstream” pregnenolone, “midstream” DHEA, “downstream” DHT, testosterone, and estrogen load)… more to the point, my PSA (prostate marker) is remarkably low, in the zero risk category… and one of the big concerns with irresponsible steroid abuse is PSA values spike… at least in my case, pheromones are demonstrating **no** impact on prostate volume or PSA values, even esoteric markers like SHBG (sex hormone binding globulin) which respond to excess hormone by the body pumping out more SHBG to control blood hormone levels, show no meaningful activity… No thyroid changes, no inflammation markers like TNF-a, or Interleukins show activity, no C reactive protein… no elevated liver enzymes… > > If the pheromones are doing anything at the body chemistry level we can’t find it **in me**. And we’re making a serious effort to find anything out of normal ranges… > > What should you do, what should everyone do ? Join the Life Extension Foundation and get their blood testing program: > > [lef.org](http://lef.org) > > here’s their testing page.. they have a ton of tests if you flip through the pages… > > [Life Extension Foundation: Popular Multi-Nutrient Formulas](http://www.lef.org/newshop/cgi-shop/showCategory.cgi?catid=23000) [Any health complications from short or long term pheromone use?](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/any-possible-health-complications-from-short-long-term-pheromone-usage/3562) This might help to understand burnout. > [@tisha23](#): > > LOL, Sort of > > The theory is that certain mones put your neurotransmitters into rapid fire and this can deplete them quickly. They really dont need to heal, they are not broken, they need to replenish. > > Think of it this way. Its like your muscles. You work them hard when you work out and its good for them but the next day they may be a little sore and they tell you to give it a rest so they can replenish before you work them again. > > I am finding using nootropics like Jassy suggested is really helping that for me and I don’t get as much of a blah feeling with using mones. I have a ton more energy to. Cant sleep much but I am not tired either. [P86+Shine=Rose colored glasses](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/p86-shine-rose-colored-glasses/28345) If you’re interested in a little more: > [@The Burnout Files](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/the-burnout-files/28406): > > If you have a bad reaction to what would otherwise be a reasonable quantity of [pheromones](https://pheromonelabs.com/), that is not over dose. That is long term overuse. Burnout. Everyone of us who are long term users have to be aware of burnout and manage our pheromone use accordingly. If are a competent, informed, reasonably aware user, burnout can be avoided entirely. Nevertheless, it is important to be able to recognize the signs of trouble and know how to regenerate yourself. Now that we know the secret, it is diffic… Aw geez, now he’s gonna be askin’ what are nootropics. Do the search. OoohYahhh ---
**Author:** ![evolver](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/evolver/32/1896_2.png) [@evolver](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/evolver)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2009, 12:17am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-there-any-health-risks-associated-with-the-use-of-pheromones/29379/13 "2009-05-30T00:17:35Z")
Thanks for the replies Steve and OoooohhhYahhh very very informative. In the spirit of this thread, I am left wondering if there could be an effect on the nasal nerve, or anything related to the nose. ---
**Author:** ![bosshank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@bosshank](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/bosshank)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2009, 3:38am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-there-any-health-risks-associated-with-the-use-of-pheromones/29379/14 "2009-05-30T03:38:51Z")
> [@OoohYahhh](#): > > Aw geez, now he’s gonna be askin’ what are nootropics. Okay - all you newbies - on 3: 1 -2 - 3: _**(((What are nootropics?)))**_ * * * LOL. Just want you to maintain a near perfect record here OoohYahhh … lol. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2009, 11:15am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-there-any-health-risks-associated-with-the-use-of-pheromones/29379/15 "2009-05-30T11:15:22Z")
> [@evolver](#): > > Thanks for the replies Steve and OoooohhhYahhh very very informative. > > In the spirit of this thread, I am left wondering if there could be an effect on the nasal nerve, or anything related to the nose. Evo, I know that I am much more aware of my sense of smell in general. I don’t think it’s because pheromones changed my nose, I think it’s just a matter of consciously using the sense. It’s like when I ran a mixer board for a friends garage band and became much more aware of the way a room “sounds”. It just wasn’t something I focused a lot of conscious energy on before, but after doing so the sense became more attuned. ---
**Author:** ![renny](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/renny/32/2104_2.png) [@renny](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/renny)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2009, 11:25am UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-there-any-health-risks-associated-with-the-use-of-pheromones/29379/16 "2009-05-30T11:25:31Z")
> [@strato](#): > > Are there any? Can they change how much your own body produces pheromone? Some of them change how you feel about certain things, kinda like sniffing gasoline. So, there must be a downside… Gasoline is not produced by the human body or by any symbiotic microorganisms that live on the human body, therefore it’s not like sniffing gasoline at all.🙂 ---
**Author:** ![OoohYahhh](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex016/user_avatar/pheromonetalk.com/ooohyahhh/32/1274_2.png) [@OoohYahhh](https://pheromonetalk.com/u/OoohYahhh)\ **Post date:** [May 30, 2009, 4:53pm UTC](https://pheromonetalk.com/t/are-there-any-health-risks-associated-with-the-use-of-pheromones/29379/17 "2009-05-30T16:53:41Z")
> [@renny](#): > > Evo, I know that I am much more aware of my sense of smell in general. I don’t think it’s because pheromones changed my nose, I think it’s just a matter of consciously using the sense. It’s like when I ran a mixer board for a friends garage band and became much more aware of the way a room “sounds”. It just wasn’t something I focused a lot of conscious energy on before, but after doing so the sense became more attuned. I can smell _way more_ than before useing pheros. I’m sure it is just awareness. I have much greater olfactory range (ability to sense smells) and I had no olfactory vocabulary (way to classify smells) before pheros. If I ever get myself focused enough to get serious about my education again (hah!) part of it will be olfactory training. So yah, it has had an effect. OoohYahhh